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Sep 5, 2009 1:40 pm

[quote=showmethemoney]

[quote=LLETF]Has anyone from ISG received their documents yet? I was told that only PCG were sent emails. Thanks.[/quote]I didnt get mine and mine were done early and they were done correctly. Plenty of ISG have gotten them. I have spoken to those in my area that have. I dont know how they determine to send what to whom and when. Pissed off. [/quote]





I submitted mine on 8/18 and have not received documents. National Sales has been decent at being updated on what is going on but they don’t have any control over anything. I am guessing that PCG finance and ISG finance are separate so processing is being done at different paces?? I really have no idea… it is distracting to wait.

Sep 5, 2009 3:38 pm

where is BP, that little pissface. i miss him already. hey BP? or Beyond Pathetic? what’s next!!! any more juicy backoffice conspiracies we should know about. pick up the phone and start dialing. call some wirehouse HR dept’s (anyone but yours, of course) and give us some more of that privileged juice. c’mon!!!



Sep 5, 2009 9:42 pm

Still waiting to receive my e-mail.  Guys in my office that submitted their paperwork when I did have received it.  I wouldn’t doubt that a mistake was made by the “system” and I will be waiting for weeks to come.  Quite annoyed.  I’ve been assured that my plans are kosher and my documents should arrive any day now.  It was admirable that the 4front dept FINALLY updated the process yesterday.  Tuesday will be 4 weeks since I completed my POR. 

My award is larger than most and is a Level 3 award due to being a premier advisor, perhaps that is holding it up.  
Sep 5, 2009 10:22 pm

[quote=20yrVet]Still waiting to receive my e-mail.  Guys in my office that submitted their paperwork when I did have received it.  I wouldn’t doubt that a mistake was made by the “system” and I will be waiting for weeks to come.  Quite annoyed.  I’ve been assured that my plans are kosher and my documents should arrive any day now.  It was admirable that the 4front dept FINALLY updated the process yesterday.  Tuesday will be 4 weeks since I completed my POR. 

My award is larger than most and is a Level 3 award due to being a premier advisor, perhaps that is holding it up.  [/quote]

I havent checked today. Does anyone know if they will be sent over the weekend or is it at a standstill till Tues? I think we would have known by now if there was an issue with any plans. Isn't that what the review with manager was for?
Sep 6, 2009 12:08 am

maybe they’ll pay interest for every day that the check is past the “60 days from the snapshot” date.  the “firm” promised a check with 60 days.

Sep 6, 2009 3:07 am

It is nice to get real money for doing the job we are supposed to do. It would be nice if they kept it going past next June. This is much better than getting “points” for opening up a pile of accounts. I must say, this program smokes the AG Edwards point system.

Sep 6, 2009 1:06 pm

YOU GUYS ARE ALL PATHETIC…POSTING ON THIS FORUM EVERYDAY…GET A LIFE …THERE IS MORE TO IT THAT WORRYING ABOUT WHEN YOU WILL GET PAID FOR FOREFRONT. I WORKED AT WACH FOR AWHILE AND IT TOOK 3 MONTHS FOR THEM TO FIX MYPHONE…7 WEEKS FOR A FIXED ANNUITY 1035…9WEEKS TO TELL US THERE WAS NO RETENTION. HELL, BY THE TIME THEY FINALLY GET AROUND TO PAYING YOU LOSERS THE DOLLARS WILL BE WORTH ONLY 1/2 OF WHAT IT IS NOW.SPEND TIME WITH YOUR FAMILIES.LOSERSSSS

Sep 6, 2009 4:13 pm

[quote=meletio]YOU GUYS ARE ALL PATHETIC…POSTING ON THIS FORUM EVERYDAY…GET A LIFE …THERE IS MORE TO IT THAT WORRYING ABOUT WHEN YOU WILL GET PAID FOR FOREFRONT. I WORKED AT WACH FOR AWHILE AND IT TOOK 3 MONTHS FOR THEM TO FIX MYPHONE….7 WEEKS FOR A FIXED ANNUITY 1035…9WEEKS TO TELL US THERE WAS NO RETENTION. HELL, BY THE TIME THEY FINALLY GET AROUND TO PAYING YOU LOSERS THE DOLLARS WILL BE WORTH ONLY 1/2 OF WHAT IT IS NOW.SPEND TIME WITH YOUR FAMILIES.LOSERSSSS
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Took them that long because you are a piker and a jerkoff.

Sep 6, 2009 4:28 pm

Contrary to all the predictions on this forum, it seems that everyone who participated in this program will get their checks!  The communication from the home office should have been better, and FAs should have been kept more in the loop.  However, one needs to realize that this was a newly designed program.  I believe that the second snapshot will be handled a lot more smoothly than this initial one.  Envision is not perfect, but it is a useful tool to help an FA do what is best for his/ her clients.  Many things at Wells Fargo could be improved, and Danny L. is not an honorable individual.  However, to pay FAs for doing these plans rather than giving them retention checks makes sense.  This program will solidify an FA’s relationship with their clients, give them a better idea of what their client’s needs are, and fits with what AGE was all about - doing what is best for the client!

Sep 6, 2009 4:47 pm

[quote=meletio] YOU GUYS ARE ALL PATHETIC…POSTING ON THIS FORUM EVERYDAY…GET A LIFE …THERE IS MORE TO IT THAT WORRYING ABOUT WHEN YOU WILL GET PAID FOR FOREFRONT. I WORKED AT WACH FOR AWHILE AND IT TOOK 3 MONTHS FOR THEM TO FIX MYPHONE…7 WEEKS FOR A FIXED ANNUITY 1035…9WEEKS TO TELL US THERE WAS NO RETENTION. HELL, BY THE TIME THEY FINALLY GET AROUND TO PAYING YOU LOSERS THE DOLLARS WILL BE WORTH ONLY 1/2 OF WHAT IT IS NOW.SPEND TIME WITH YOUR FAMILIES.LOSERSSSS

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what are you so angry about? wach doesn’t want to help you b/c they don’t help the helpless. go eat a d***burger you f***ing retard

Sep 6, 2009 10:31 pm

Wow 60 days to be paid (August 29th) come and gone, contracts the week of August 12th come and gone, now paid by September 15th definately going to come and go. I cant believe still no contracts for most of you. And you big producers should have been priority #1. Sad!!!

Sep 7, 2009 12:15 am

Its 8:15pm, Sept 6th. Do you know where your 4front email is??? I dont. 

Sep 7, 2009 1:44 am

[quote=AGEWACHWELLS]It is nice to get real money for doing the job we are supposed to do. It would be nice if they kept it going past next June. This is much better than getting “points” for opening up a pile of accounts. I must say, this program smokes the AG Edwards point system. [/quote] Have to disagree with you on this.  At least with the point shop there was no contract to sign. No 9 years stuck with the firm with a non-solicit contract in place.  On top of that, this 9 year contract doesn’t even start ticking until Sept 2010.

They could have came up with better ways to retain and pay than this smoke n mirrors BS called forefront.  I would imagine I would get as much money as anyone on this forum for doing the least amount of plans, 59 to be exact, but I don't need the money and that contract is gonna put the handcuffs on pretty tight. That feeling is not worth one penny of the money to me.  Do you guys that are doing this forefront really trust this firm and their antics?  Everything they have touched so far has turned to sh*t.  What makes you think the forefront isn't the same thing with a bunch of sugar on top?
Sep 7, 2009 2:36 am

BP



your original name sake. Be patient. retention IS coming. I KNOW for sure.    



WRONG



No retention. I know for sure. Im bolting to Smith Stanley.



WRONG



Forefront blows.   No money.   They are rejecting many plans. Its horrible.    I know for sure.



WRONG



Your consistent.



You dont know jack and your inside info with all your power player contacts don’t add up to jack.   And if by chance you did know someone your such a loud mouth tool no one would tell you crap.



So…WS guys DID get paid.    My My



Don’t you like johnny mack there BP. Did some big accounts not come with you d-bag?   Anyone so concerned about what he left must be having some second thoughts?   Is your manager not what you expected?   Don’t like the systems?

With those monster numbers your doing i think you would be getting a NICE Forefront check right now.



I think you lost some nice accounts.   Your fukcing ego is so big you underestimated that some people were not happy in this bear market and used the move to lose your annoying butt.



You left near the bottom.   Your old accounts REAL happy. they are making money and will never come back to you.



BP mr consistent   always wrong



(how those taxes each month?    anything in your paycheck?   wait till Obama raises top rates.   oh well…only 8 5/8th more years   bwahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha)







Sep 7, 2009 3:11 am

Ab -



1. Forefront would not be worth it to me they way they are jacking you guys around.



2. Yes, about 90% of accounts came with me and I am still working on others.



3. Yes, my ego is big but I am actually pretty sensitive also.



4. I was VERY wrong about retention back in Decmeber. I was relying on a very BIG corporate insider who was feeding me info both he and I thought was 100% correct. You have no idea how close to a fat retention check we were.



5. Forefront is a joke. Not the plans, its the way they are jacking you around with empty dates, and absolutely zero communication.



6. And yes, most of the posts against me are true, I am much too involved in this, what started as keeping up with the forefront progress has me completely blown away at the utter disregard for the advisor at your shop. Its like every decision they make someone says "F*ck them, they are lucky to be working here and everyone nods their head yes.



7. I hope you guys get paid, but hell you got BIG producers, premier advisors at your firm pissed off with lots of options.



8. Management is reading Ben Edwards rules of how to treat the advisor upside down thinking they are reading it correctly.

Sep 7, 2009 1:07 pm

[quote=BE PATIENT] Ab -





3. Yes, my ego is big but I am actually pretty sensitive also.



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oh gezz            A kinder and gentler BP?   

OK   We are a compassionate bunch.

We are working to forgive Mike.    We will try with you.



Sep 7, 2009 5:17 pm

and he DID have a dog in the fight

Sep 7, 2009 11:21 pm

[quote=BE PATIENT]Wow 60 days to be paid (August 29th) come and gone, contracts the week of August 12th come and gone, now paid by September 15th definately going to come and go. I cant believe still no contracts for most of you. And you big producers should have been priority #1. Sad!!![/quote]

I love it, now you are breaking balls over whether the program pays in 60 days or not!
What’s next, that we are getting paid via check vs direct deposit and that’s a big deal too?

Your call was NO pay. You were wrong. Grow a pair and move on.

Sep 7, 2009 11:29 pm

[quote=meletio]YOU GUYS ARE ALL PATHETIC…POSTING ON THIS FORUM EVERYDAY…GET A LIFE …THERE IS MORE TO IT THAT WORRYING ABOUT WHEN YOU WILL GET PAID FOR FOREFRONT. I WORKED AT WACH FOR AWHILE AND IT TOOK 3 MONTHS FOR THEM TO FIX MYPHONE…7 WEEKS FOR A FIXED ANNUITY 1035…9WEEKS TO TELL US THERE WAS NO RETENTION. HELL, BY THE TIME THEY FINALLY GET AROUND TO PAYING YOU LOSERS THE DOLLARS WILL BE WORTH ONLY 1/2 OF WHAT IT IS NOW.SPEND TIME WITH YOUR FAMILIES.LOSERSSSS
[/quote]

Hey everyone, Meletio is back! How ya doin little buddy! Sorry to hear about your phone. I didn’t know your parents let you have your own phone. Probably just for emergencies, right?

I don’t think it’s nice for a child like you to call us adults losers though. And the comment about how the money will be worth half by the time we actually get paid? I guess you learned about inflation in school today. You can tell your teacher than inflation isn’t that steep currently, given that we will paid this month. Regardless, even if it was worth half, that’s still more than you got.

I’d tell you to call someone who cares, but your phone doesn’t work.

Sep 8, 2009 2:34 am

My prediction for the week. Not one e-mail will go out.