"As far as the Martian statement...I just refuted what you said.  You are the only that claimed the book stated that Martians landed on the earth and that the moon landings were fake."

You get funnier by the minute. Read the line again and see if you, NOW realize what everyone else here did THEN, that I wasn't talking about YOUR specific book, but of conspiracy garbage books in general. "Also, I won't be wasting time reading books that say we faked the moon landings or books that claim JFK was killed by Martians.".

I'm blushing for you, your comment was just hysterical. Thanks for the laugh.

Don't look now, but someone was arrested for "signaling" helicopters. 

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/nat-gen/2005/sep/0 6/090606919.html

: September 06, 2005 at 15:8:43 PDT

ASSOCIATED PRESS

NEW ORLEANS (AP) - A New Orleans man was arrested and charged with shooting at a military rescue helicopter. Authorities said the bullets apparently did not hit anything.

Wendell Bailey, 20, was taken into custody Monday night by agents with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

The agents were in the neighborhood to investigate neighbors' complaints of gunfire and heard shots from an apartment window as a helicopter flew over.

I'm sure the people in the neighborhood who complained, the helicopter pilot AND the ATF agents are all lying racists. Right menotellname? 

Maybe the witnesses, pilot and ATF should read the book.

[quote=Sniper]

Don't look now, but someone was arrested for "signaling" helicopters. 

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/nat-gen/2005/sep/0 6/090606919.html

: September 06, 2005 at 15:8:43 PDT

ASSOCIATED PRESS

NEW ORLEANS (AP) - A New Orleans man was arrested and charged with shooting at a military rescue helicopter. Authorities said the bullets apparently did not hit anything.

Wendell Bailey, 20, was taken into custody Monday night by agents with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

The agents were in the neighborhood to investigate neighbors' complaints of gunfire and heard shots from an apartment window as a helicopter flew over.

I'm sure the people in the neighborhood who complained, the helicopter pilot AND the ATF agents are all lying racists. Right menotellname? 

[/quote]

Charged is not the same as convicted.

There still needs to be enough evidence to convict.

Keep me updated.

[quote=Starka]Maybe the witnesses, pilot and ATF should read the book.[/quote]

You know...with the extremely detailed story (NOT)...

Anyway.  The "detailed" story doesn't say that the ATF agents saw anything.  They just took him into custody.  The neighbors "heard gunfire".  I am sure that all of this means that the neighbors that didn't see anything.  The article doesn't mention "witnesses", only neighbors that "heard shots from an apartment window as a helicopter flew over".

This is hardly convincing evidence.

He was a good man who just needed attention. NO 20 year old fires warning shots when there are about 500 boats going up and down the streets. Also a 20 year old can go and get help.

The thug probably raped a few women to boot. It seems the only racists in this enviorment are Jessy Jackson and Al Sharpton. I dont here any white leaders saying anything about race. Then you listen to the black leaders and they cant say anything, but whites hate blacks.

Thousands wont leave and would not have left. The AFWT, Coast Guard, state and federal governement is doing everything possible to save lives. Yeah there were errors and delays, but that is life. It sucks at times, but everyone did the best they could.

Sorry about the spelling I was in a rush.. But it aggrivates me that when Americans come together these money hungry skum bags (Sharpton and Jackson) use this for their cause. Strong black leaders blast Jackson all the time since he has so many financial ties to his bs.

[quote=executivejock]

Sorry about the spelling I was in a rush.. But it aggrivates me that when Americans come together these money hungry skum bags (Sharpton and Jackson) use this for their cause. Strong black leaders blast Jackson all the time since he has so many financial ties to his bs.

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For once I agree with you about Sharpton and Jackson.  However, at least they are doing something.  This is better than most of their detractors (on both sides) who often do nothing.

"For once I agree with you about Sharpton and Jackson.  However, at least they are doing something."

Besides furthering their own careers by creating and inflaming racial tensions, what is it that they're doing?

[quote=sniper1]

"For once I agree with you about Sharpton and Jackson.  However, at least they are doing something."

Besides furthering their own careers by creating and inflaming racial tensions, what is it that they're doing?

[/quote]

They are pointing out the flaws with the system.

Pointing out flaws without proposing any viable or even non viable solutions is a complete waste of everyone's time.  Otherwise it is just bitching to hear your own voice.

There are a lot of flaws in any system devised by the government. That is a given.  So what are the solutions?  Tearing other people down, whether deserved or not is easy. Coming up with ideas is hard. Probably that is why the paucity of ideas is so huge and the overwhelmingly shrill chorus of negativity is so loud from the Democrats.

[quote=babbling looney]

Pointing out flaws without proposing any viable or even non viable solutions is a complete waste of everyone's time.  Otherwise it is just bitching to hear your own voice.

There are a lot of flaws in any system devised by the government. That is a given.  So what are the solutions?  Tearing other people down, whether deserved or not is easy. Coming up with ideas is hard. Probably that is why the paucity of ideas is so huge and the overwhelmingly shrill chorus of negativity is so loud from the Democrats.

[/quote]

They actually do propose solutions sometimes.  Unfortunately some people like to stick their heads in the sand and pretend that problems do not exist.

Reality is not negativity.  It is reality.  Much like pointing out to your clients that investments can go and do go down.  Painting sh*t red is still sh*t.

Tearing people down is easy if they f**k up.  Bush has f**ked up to the Nth degree.  Similar to his republican party...

Skin cancer... Man you just dont get it.

If you believe everything the dems tell you your an extremist. If you believe the republicans are all right then you are clueless. They both say alot of crap, but the dems are a three headed dragon. You have Howard Dean, Michael Moore (Moveon.org) and the Clintons. They all hate one another. They all change their positions and its a joke!

Maybe I should not be so rude, but its like come on dude. Your smart enough to post on here, but you dont look at the big picture.

The great leaders of our country have vision!! Long term vision. Social Security is a failed system that sucks for all of us. If you die before you hit 70 you have paid in about 300k and you get 0.... Okay maybe you get 1400 for 36 months so you get about 45k. Then if you die you would only lose about 80% of your money. The dems try to say different. They try to scare the old and poor or their base..

Either way who the hell do you support? Gore and his child DEAN? Do you remember were going to Vermont, then to California then to Idaho and then.... The guy is off his rocker.

[quote=menotellname][quote=sniper1]

"For once I agree with you about Sharpton and Jackson.  However, at least they are doing something."

Besides furthering their own careers by creating and inflaming racial tensions, what is it that they're doing?

[/quote]

They are pointing out the flaws with the system.

[/quote]

No, pointing out flaws would including asking the Mayor of N.O. why he didn't use is buses to get poor people out of town and why he sent poor people to the Superdome without food, water or securing.

All they're doing is their usual practice of getting attention and furthering their careers by claiming racism.

[quote=menotellname][quote=babbling looney]

Pointing out flaws without proposing any viable or even non viable solutions is a complete waste of everyone's time.  Otherwise it is just bitching to hear your own voice.

There are a lot of flaws in any system devised by the government. That is a given.  So what are the solutions?  Tearing other people down, whether deserved or not is easy. Coming up with ideas is hard. Probably that is why the paucity of ideas is so huge and the overwhelmingly shrill chorus of negativity is so loud from the Democrats.

[/quote]

They actually do propose solutions sometimes.  Unfortunately some people like to stick their heads in the sand and pretend that problems do not exist.

[/quote]

Name some of their solutions and while you're at it, please explain wtf the mayor of NO and the Gov of LA were thinking?

[quote=sniper1]

All they're doing is their usual practice of getting attention and furthering their careers by claiming racism.

[/quote]

Okay.  So we all agree that racism exists but everybody says "but not in my backyard".  So where does it exist?

Answer:  Everyplace.

Unfortunately you have never experienced racism.  If you did you would have a better understanding.  You don't and you won't.

[quote=sniper1]

Name some of their solutions and while you're at it, please explain wtf the mayor of NO and the Gov of LA were thinking?[/quote]

Sure.  You tell me what the president was thinking first.

Of course Louisiana is a red state...

Any questions?

Only minorities have racism and discrimination..?

Yeah like the two times when I was a kid and a few colored folks kicked my butt.. Or pushed me around at the ball park.

The times when I was informed I was to young to get the big promotion by numerous members of mgmt.  

The fact is life is not always fair.

The bottom line is people like me are open minded and well rounded. We dont look at the US and say "you owe us" we say "we are going to make our own destiny. Screw the social handouts. I look in the mirror and know I am true to myself."

I dont know if you can say the same?

[quote=menotellname]

[quote=sniper1]

All they're doing is their usual practice of getting attention and furthering their careers by claiming racism.

[/quote]

Okay.  So we all agree that racism exists but everybody says "but not in my backyard".  So where does it exist?

Answer:  Everyplace.

Unfortunately you have never experienced racism.  If you did you would have a better understanding.  You don't and you won't.

[/quote]

So since there is racism it's OK to further your "career" by screaming racism on the top of your lungs when there really is no evidence.

Got it

[quote=menotellname]

[quote=sniper1]

Name some of their solutions and while you're at it, please explain wtf the mayor of NO and the Gov of LA were thinking?[/quote]

Sure.  You tell me what the president was thinking first.

[/quote]

Well, we know from stories in the NY Times in the first 24 hours he was saying "OMG these clowns are screwing this up by the numbers. Can we simply take control from the Mayor of NO and the Gov of LA?".

Now, care to tell us why the Mayor and Gov screwed up so badly?