[quote=Sniper]

[quote=menotellname]

No.  I am not insane.  I am a genius.  I think on a much higher level than you or inquisitive could ever possibly comprehend.  Please read this book and educate yourself:  http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0684818868/qid =1125806987/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-0899413-5203957?v=glance &s=books&n=507846[/quote]

Hardly. If you're reading and recommending this kind of paranoid conspiracy book you're no genius.

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Obviously you DID NOT READ THE BOOK.

Perhaps you would be better served if you didn't complain about shootings while having the moniker of "sniper".  Seems like you are an oxymoron (emphasis on the moron).

[quote=Sniper]

[quote=]menotellname

You lack perspective. 

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This from the guy that tried to make the argument that the snipers in N.O. were simply trying to "signal" relief workers.

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Well...as a "sniper"...you would know how easy it is to shoot something or someone.  Especially if it is as large as a helicopter.

Let me ask you this...with all of the shooting going on...how many rescuers have been shot?  None.

However, guardsmen protecting workers shot and killed several gunmen over the weekend.

You would think that if there is as much shooting as you claim and that these shooters are shooting AT rescuers that several rescuers would have been killed.  Unfortunately, for you, the facts fly in the face of your "logic".

[quote=menotellname][quote=Sniper]

[quote=menotellname]

No.  I am not insane.  I am a genius.  I think on a much higher level than you or inquisitive could ever possibly comprehend.  Please read this book and educate yourself:  http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0684818868/qid =1125806987/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-0899413-5203957?v=glance &s=books&n=507846[/quote]

Hardly. If you're reading and recommending this kind of paranoid conspiracy book you're no genius.

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Obviously you DID NOT READ THE BOOK.

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I feel no need to waste life's precious time reading garbage that says things like "Perhaps we are all dupes, manipulated by elite white male capitalists who orchestrate how history is written as part of their scheme to perpetuate their own power and privilege at the expense of the rest of us.".

Also, I won't be wasting time reading books that say we faked the moon landings or books that claim JFK was killed by Martians. I will, however, continue to laugh at people who make statements like you do, saying that snipers in N.O. were just trying to signal relief workers.

BTW, I had the screen name long before thugs decided to fire on people trying to save them.

[quote=menotellname]

Well...as a "sniper"...you would know how easy it is to shoot something or someone.  Especially if it is as large as a helicopter.

Let me ask you this...with all of the shooting going on...how many rescuers have been shot?  None.

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No one said they were good marksmen, just that they TRIED to hit people attempting to save their lives.

What you're REALLY saying is that the pilots and people in boats how claim there were people shooting at them are liars.

[quote=menotellname]

However, guardsmen protecting workers shot and killed several gunmen over the weekend.

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And why do you think the guardsmen fired? Because the GUNMEN (notice that word, GUNmen?) SHOT AT RELIEF WORKRS FIRST.

[quote=menotellname]

That is the problem with "white" America.

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The "problem" is pointing out acts of lawlessness, folks. The "problem" is in not understanding that gunmen were just trying to signal the relief workers. The "problem" is in not bothering to read paranoid conspiracy garbage books.

Seriously, the "problem" is black racists and white racists getting in the way of rational people all getting along as we otherwise would without them.

[quote=Sniper][quote=menotellname]

Well...as a "sniper"...you would know how easy it is to shoot something or someone.  Especially if it is as large as a helicopter.

Let me ask you this...with all of the shooting going on...how many rescuers have been shot?  None.

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No one said they were good marksmen, just that they TRIED to hit people attempting to save their lives.

What you're REALLY saying is that the pilots and people in boats how claim there were people shooting at them are liars.

[quote=menotellname]

However, guardsmen protecting workers shot and killed several gunmen over the weekend.

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And why do you think the guardsmen fired? Because the GUNMEN (notice that word, GUNmen?) SHOT AT RELIEF WORKRS FIRST.

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Everybody thinks that somebody is shooting AT them when they hear and/or see bullets.  Rarely is that the case.

Yes, I am calling the pilots and people in boats liars.  They lack perspective.

Unless or until one of them gets shot...nobody was shooting AT them.  Near them...yes.

You don't have to be a good marksman to shoot something that is lumbering slowly towards you.  That being said...a 5 year old would have shot at least one of the rescuers if he was shooting AT them.

[quote=Sniper]

[quote=menotellname]

That is the problem with "white" America.

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The "problem" is pointing out acts of lawlessness, folks. The "problem" is in not understanding that gunmen were just trying to signal the relief workers. The "problem" is in not bothering to read paranoid conspiracy garbage books.

Seriously, the "problem" is black racists and white racists getting in the way of rational people all getting along as we otherwise would without them.

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Racists ARE NOT THE PROBLEM.

Ignorance of the situation and/or the root cause is the problem.  Unfortunately most of those that are ignorant of the situation and/or root cause are deemed racist because their beliefs are skewed due to lack of education about the actual cause of the problem.

That, my ignorant friend, is why you should read the book. 

[quote=menotellname]

Yes, I am calling the pilots and people in boats liars.  They lack perspective.

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I don't think I've ever been in the presence of such overpowering ego and ignorance before in my entire life. You really are a piece of work.

And the GUNmen the guardsmen shot, they were just signalling the people trying to help them?

[quote=Sniper][quote=menotellname][quote=Sniper]

[quote=menotellname]

No.  I am not insane.  I am a genius.  I think on a much higher level than you or inquisitive could ever possibly comprehend.  Please read this book and educate yourself:  http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0684818868/qid =1125806987/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-0899413-5203957?v=glance &s=books&n=507846[/quote]

Hardly. If you're reading and recommending this kind of paranoid conspiracy book you're no genius.

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Obviously you DID NOT READ THE BOOK.

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I feel no need to waste life's precious time reading garbage that says things like "Perhaps we are all dupes, manipulated by elite white male capitalists who orchestrate how history is written as part of their scheme to perpetuate their own power and privilege at the expense of the rest of us.".

Also, I won't be wasting time reading books that say we faked the moon landings or books that claim JFK was killed by Martians. I will, however, continue to laugh at people who make statements like you do, saying that snipers in N.O. were just trying to signal relief workers.

BTW, I had the screen name long before thugs decided to fire on people trying to save them.

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The book doesn't mention Martians.  Nor does it state that moon landings were faked.

Who is the paranoid person now?

Looks like you!!!

"That, my ignorant friend, is why you should read the book. "

You're the mirror image of the Klansman who wants me to read HIS favorite book filled with "facts" about how Jews run the world behind the scenes and how blacks are barely above rabid dogs in their behavior.

[quote=Sniper]

"That, my ignorant friend, is why you should read the book. "

You're the mirror image of the Klansman who wants me to read HIS favorite book filled with "facts" about how Jews run the world behind the scenes and how blacks are barely above rabid dogs in their behavior.

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You obviously don't know what is detailed in the book if you haven't read the book.

You must be a charter member of the Flat Earth Society.

[quote=menotellname][quote=Sniper]

"That, my ignorant friend, is why you should read the book. "

You're the mirror image of the Klansman who wants me to read HIS favorite book filled with "facts" about how Jews run the world behind the scenes and how blacks are barely above rabid dogs in their behavior.

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You obviously don't know what is detailed in the book if you haven't read the book.

You must be a charter member of the Flat Earth Society.

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I've read enough of the book to know it's paranoid conspiracy nonsense. The beauty of the information age is that you don't have to read something cover to cover, you can read reviews and discussions of any book online and understand where the author's perspective lies. Life's too short to spend it reading rants like; "Perhaps we are all dupes, manipulated by elite white male capitalists who orchestrate how history is written as part of their scheme to perpetuate their own power and privilege at the expense of the rest of us.".

In fact, the only thing that might be a bigger waste of time than reading page to page that propaganda would be conversing with someone who calls every relief worker who claims to have been shot at a liar. Or that would be the case if that conversation didn't serve the combined purposes of comic relief and a reminder or how far from reality some people chose to live.

The fact is you're nothing but a black bigot, no better than some of the white bigots we've seen here. The less we hear from you two sides of the same coin types, the better off we'll all be.

[quote=Sniper][quote=menotellname][quote=Sniper]

"That, my ignorant friend, is why you should read the book. "

You're the mirror image of the Klansman who wants me to read HIS favorite book filled with "facts" about how Jews run the world behind the scenes and how blacks are barely above rabid dogs in their behavior.

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You obviously don't know what is detailed in the book if you haven't read the book.

You must be a charter member of the Flat Earth Society.

[/quote]

I've read enough of the book to know it's paranoid conspiracy nonsense. The beauty of the information age is that you don't have to read something cover to cover, you can read reviews and discussions of any book online and understand where the author's perspective lies. Life's too short to spend it reading rants like; "Perhaps we are all dupes, manipulated by elite white male capitalists who orchestrate how history is written as part of their scheme to perpetuate their own power and privilege at the expense of the rest of us.".

In fact, the only thing that might be a bigger waste of time than reading page to page that propaganda would be conversing with someone who calls every relief worker who claims to have been shot at a liar. Or that would be the case if that conversation didn't serve the combined purposes of comic relief and a reminder or how far from reality some people chose to live.

The fact is you're nothing but a black bigot, no better than some of the white bigots we've seen here. The less we hear from you two sides of the same coin types, the better off we'll all be.

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Propoganda and truth.  Two words that republicans often get confused.

No problem.

It is laughable that you would call me a "black bigot".  After all..."most of my friends are white".

Not once have I stated any kind of racist agenda.  You can be as white as you want to be.  I don't care.  Just don't be ignorant.  Unfortunately you are WILLFULLY ignorant.

Not once have I screamed "down with whitey" or "the white man shouldn't vote".  I have only tried to enlighten you of the black experience.  That is where I differ from both YOU AND INQUISITIVE (AND STARKA).  Each one of you has an agenda to suppress and repress a particular demographic for a nature of their birth that was not their own.  That, my pale friend, is a shame.

Any questions?

"Propoganda and truth.  Two words that republicans often get confused."

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LOL, as if anyone hawking that conspiracy nonsense is in a position to talk about the differences in those words. And just what is “propaganda” anyway?

"It is laughable that you would call me a "black bigot".  After all..."most of my friends are white"."

"Most of my friends are____", the last refuge of every bigot. And you don't have friends, I'm sure.

"Not once have I stated any kind of racist agenda."

You sure have. You've hawked a book that claims "rich white men" manipulate everything to hold others down and you've made the most outrageous defense of snipers in <?:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />New Orleans for NO REASON other than the color of their skin. I have no doubt that is the shooters were white and the rescuers were black you’d have a completely different view of events.

"  You can be as white as you want to be.  I don't care.  Just don't be ignorant.  Unfortunately you are WILLFULLY ignorant."

Ouch, my feeling are hurt. The bigot says I'm ignorant. If only I had the good sense to agree with him.  <?:namespace prefix = v ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" /> 

"Not once have I screamed "down with whitey" or "the white man shouldn't vote"."

Your book screams "down with whitey", but even if it didn't, your list isn't a complete one of the attitudes and comments made by bigots.

 "I have only tried to enlighten you of the black experience. "

I could be wrong, but I doubt your advice to read the goofy book about "rich white men" and your defense of snipers could be considered a majority opinion, much less a universal opinion among blacks.  You appointed you and your book as the representatives of the “black experience”?

" That is where I differ from both YOU AND INQUISITIVE (AND STARKA).  Each one of you has an agenda to suppress and repress a particular demographic for a nature of their birth that was not their own.  That, my pale friend, is a shame."

That's just plain funny. Because I don't buy into your theory that the shooters were just trying to signal rescuers (and calling every witness to the shootings liars is just insanity) and because I find your book about how THE MAN controls and manipulates everything to keep people down, I’m the same as someone that says “people can’t escape genetics”.

You’re nothing but a sideshow, a miniature example of a race hustler. A digital, ¼ sized Al Sharpton. People like you keep people in their separate, angry little camps, nursing grudges and keeping stereotypes alive. You and your Klansman twins are what keeps people apart.

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"It is laughable that you would call me a "black bigot".  After all..."most of my friends are white"."

"Most of my friends are____", the last refuge of every bigot. And you don't have friends, I'm sure.

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If you are too stupid to recognize tongue-n-cheek sarcasm you are probably too stupid to live. 

[quote=Sniper]

"Not once have I stated any kind of racist agenda."

You sure have. You've hawked a book that claims "rich white men" manipulate everything to hold others down and you've made the most outrageous defense of snipers in <?:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />New Orleans for NO REASON other than the color of their skin. I have no doubt that is the shooters were white and the rescuers were black you’d have a completely different view of events.

"  You can be as white as you want to be.  I don't care.  Just don't be ignorant.  Unfortunately you are WILLFULLY ignorant."

Ouch, my feeling are hurt. The bigot says I'm ignorant. If only I had the good sense to agree with him.  <?:namespace prefix = v ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" /> 

"Not once have I screamed "down with whitey" or "the white man shouldn't vote"."

Your book screams "down with whitey", but even if it didn't, your list isn't a complete one of the attitudes and comments made by bigots.

 "I have only tried to enlighten you of the black experience. "

I could be wrong, but I doubt your advice to read the goofy book about "rich white men" and your defense of snipers could be considered a majority opinion, much less a universal opinion among blacks.  You appointed you and your book as the representatives of the “black experience”?

" That is where I differ from both YOU AND INQUISITIVE (AND STARKA).  Each one of you has an agenda to suppress and repress a particular demographic for a nature of their birth that was not their own.  That, my pale friend, is a shame."

That's just plain funny. Because I don't buy into your theory that the shooters were just trying to signal rescuers (and calling every witness to the shootings liars is just insanity) and because I find your book about how THE MAN controls and manipulates everything to keep people down, I’m the same as someone that says “people can’t escape genetics”.

You’re nothing but a sideshow, a miniature example of a race hustler. A digital, ¼ sized Al Sharpton. People like you keep people in their separate, angry little camps, nursing grudges and keeping stereotypes alive. You and your Klansman twins are what keeps people apart.

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I didn't appoint the book as representative of the black experience.  The book is representative of America and it's true history.  During which the United States was (and has been) oppressive to several classes and races.  Perhaps you should read the book.  Not once did I, or the book, mention "rich white men".

Unfortunately you continue to remain WILLFULLY IGNORANT.  Remember, only you can choose not to be stupid.

Anyway, it is kind of hard for me to be separate in my role as a retail producer / manager.

I guess you are also too stupid to realize that if somebody wanted to shoot a rescuer they would have been shot by now.  But then...you have a way of failing to see the logic.  Seriously...you actually think that all of these news reports of people shooting at rescuers are suspicious seeing how no rescuer has been shot?  Come on...you actually think that all of these blood thirsty drug crazed gun toting black thugs who running through black and white neighborhoods raping , killing, and terrorizing everyone in their sight never learned to use a gun properly during their blood lust rampages?

Do you know how stupid that sounds?  Do you realize your conflicting logic?  First we are all blood thirsty gun toting savages that kill without a thought.  Of course...we kill so many people that we never learned how to aim a gun.  You logic is flawed Dr. Watson.

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"It is laughable that you would call me a "black bigot".  After all..."most of my friends are white"."

"Most of my friends are____", the last refuge of every bigot. And you don't have friends, I'm sure.

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If you are too stupid to recognize tongue-n-cheek sarcasm you are probably too stupid to live. 

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Sarcasm needs humor to work. Your comment lacked it.

Also, weren't you the guy that said;

"The book doesn't mention Martians.  Nor does it state that moon landings were faked.

Who is the paranoid person now?

Looks like you!!!"

"I didn't appoint the book as representative of the black experience."

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 So hawking the leftist propaganda and  trying to “enlighten [me] of the black experience” were unrelated?

“Not once did I, or the book, mention "rich white men".”

Read your own book, please. I provided you a quote “…elite white male capitalists who orchestrate..”. Let me translate for you, that means RICH WHITE MEN.

“Anyway, it is kind of hard for me to be separate in my role as a retail producer / manager.”

A perfect non-sequitur, unless you’re trying to point out to us what a miserable company would employ you in either role.

“I guess you are also too stupid to realize that if somebody wanted to shoot a rescuer they would have been shot by now.”

You might want to debate the witnesses who, unlike you, were actually there. They would include people in boats, pilots and members of the N.O. police department and the National Guard. The last two groups now have bodies of people they shot who were armed and were shooting at rescuers. I suppose next you’ll tell us they’re all racists.

What a clown.

[quote=Sniper][quote=menotellname][quote=Sniper]<O:P></O:P>

"It is laughable that you would call me a "black bigot".  After all..."most of my friends are white"."

"Most of my friends are____", the last refuge of every bigot. And you don't have friends, I'm sure.

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If you are too stupid to recognize tongue-n-cheek sarcasm you are probably too stupid to live. 

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Sarcasm needs humor to work. Your comment lacked it.

Also, weren't you the guy that said;

"The book doesn't mention Martians.  Nor does it state that moon landings were faked.

Who is the paranoid person now?

Looks like you!!!"

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Face it Sniper.  You were too stupid to recognize tongue-n-cheek humor that highlights exactly what most "white people" say when confronted with racism.  Then you came with the typical "black response" of "that is just what a racist would say".  You are nothing but a stereotype of a stereotype.  You are typical and you are pitiful.

As far as the Martian statement...I just refuted what you said.  You are the only that claimed the book stated that Martians landed on the earth and that the moon landings were fake.  I simply stated that you were incorrect and obviously have not read the book.  That contention still stands, along with the contention that you are WILLFULLY IGNORANT.

[quote=Sniper]

"I didn't appoint the book as representative of the black experience."

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 So hawking the leftist propaganda and  trying to “enlighten [me] of the black experience” were unrelated?

“Not once did I, or the book, mention "rich white men".”

Read your own book, please. I provided you a quote “…elite white male capitalists who orchestrate..”. Let me translate for you, that means RICH WHITE MEN.

“Anyway, it is kind of hard for me to be separate in my role as a retail producer / manager.”

A perfect non-sequitur, unless you’re trying to point out to us what a miserable company would employ you in either role.

“I guess you are also too stupid to realize that if somebody wanted to shoot a rescuer they would have been shot by now.”

You might want to debate the witnesses who, unlike you, were actually there. They would include people in boats, pilots and members of the N.O. police department and the National Guard. The last two groups now have bodies of people they shot who were armed and were shooting at rescuers. I suppose next you’ll tell us they’re all racists.

What a clown.

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Hmmmm...

Working in reverse.  Most of those "testimonies" of shots fired are not from "witnesses".  Second, unless interviews as to motive and ballistics reports as to trajectory have been done to confirm that they were "shot at" I don't think those claims hold any water (so to speak).

Non sequiter?  I thought the remark was right in line with the subject matter being discussed.  I supervise both black and white employees and each of the locations that I serve has a varying demographic of their clientele.  Kind of hard to be separate...especially as a type "A" personality.

Elite white male capitalists?  Sounds like yuppie scum to me.  Rich?  Not necassarily.  Just unduly "privileged".

Leftist propoganda?  Only if you are a white male that feels that all of society has it out for you.  You must be a sad soul to believe that there is such a conspiracy theory.