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Jul 29, 2009 2:26 am
you'll get paid???  from who and when??? liars, liars, liars...they can go to hell!   this is BAD, and the firm is soon to be toast.  this will be the place for the sub 200 producers by year's end as just about everyone jumps due to this.  i know of several million+ producers that only stayed due to this program.     management has stooped to new lows!  zero credibility now...unlikely they'll ever pay...
Jul 29, 2009 2:44 am

Jul 29, 2009 2:48 am

[quote=go_huskies]

you'll get paid???  from who and when??? liars, liars, liars...they can go to hell!   this is BAD, and the firm is soon to be toast.  this will be the place for the sub 200 producers by year's end as just about everyone jumps due to this.  i know of several million+ producers that only stayed due to this program.     management has stooped to new lows!  zero credibility now...unlikely they'll ever pay...[/quote]     "paid from who?"  That is an interesting question.  Would not even try and guess at that one
Jul 29, 2009 3:00 am

Obviously no snapsh*ts yet. So now are you guys starting tobelieve? If there is a way to prolong, delay or screw up a promise from corporate they will do it. Has anyone called the Envision department for timeframe? A friend of mine in WFA Texas said they are saying two more weeks just for snapshot in managers hands.

Jul 29, 2009 3:04 am

time to call john mack i guess…

Jul 29, 2009 3:15 am

Called envision team today. Pay day is still Sept 15, snapshots a couple weeks out for managers and mid August we will see our snapshots along with the paperwork. Not worried.

Jul 29, 2009 3:17 am
PremierAdvisor:

Called envision team today. Pay day is still Sept 15, snapshots a couple weeks out for managers and mid August we will see our snapshots along with the paperwork. Not worried.

    Guess you could say its down to "Days not weeks?"
Jul 29, 2009 4:14 am
fritz:

[quote=PremierAdvisor]Called envision team today. Pay day is still Sept 15, snapshots a couple weeks out for managers and mid August we will see our snapshots along with the paperwork. Not worried.







Guess you could say its down to “Days not weeks?”[/quote]



No, I SAID weeks. If you were trying to be humorous, I missed it.
Jul 29, 2009 1:28 pm

I listened to mack’s call and confirmed that all is in order. I shouldn’t allow these f’in boards to get me so revved up. Nothing has changed, payment still scheduled for 9/15 per manager review. That’s not an issue.

Jul 29, 2009 2:19 pm
go_huskies:

I listened to mack’s call and confirmed that all is in order. I shouldn’t allow these f’in boards to get me so revved up. Nothing has changed, payment still scheduled for 9/15 per manager review. That’s not an issue.

  Isn't the internet great.  Anyone can be anything or lie about anything they want.  Just put your head down and ignore these jealous idiots.
Jul 30, 2009 5:54 am

has anyone actually recieved confirmation of an actual date you will recieve your exact bonus amount and a list of the accpeted clients? Until then I wouldnt take ANYTHING corporate is saying as fact. Wait till you have actual numbers in hand.

Jul 30, 2009 11:04 am

BP, thanks for all your concern.  I gave you lots of credibility and respect during the retention circus b/c my sources said all the same things yours were saying (and I think my sources were as “high up” as yours if not higher).  Your losing all credibility here.  There was lots of info on the front page of infomax yesterday about what happens from here and when.  After what we’ve been through I don’t think anyone truly believes this is happening until the check clears, but there is mounting evidence every day that contradicts you. 

Jul 30, 2009 1:59 pm

Seriously, isn't there some epileptic forum you can haunt and post animated gifs?

Jul 31, 2009 12:33 am

[quote=PremierAdvisor]

Seriously, isn't there some epileptic forum you can haunt and post animated gifs?

[/quote]   now that's funny!
Jul 31, 2009 8:30 pm

sounds like go huskie and the rest of the wells farguzzlers just keep taking it & swallowin…good luck w/ that…heard powers are reviewing all plans & cancelling 2nd snapshot

Jul 31, 2009 9:10 pm

sounds like go huskie and the rest of the wells
farguzzlers just keep taking it & swallowin…good luck w/
that…heard powers are reviewing all plans & cancelling 2nd
snapshot
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Whatever bro. I called Natl sales myself and we will be paid on or before 9-15. The plans not done to standards will likely get flagged and will need to be amended before those are paid on. Your manager will discuss those specific plans with the FA and FA will either justify them as is or fix them. Plans that are done to standard will pass on through and nothing further needs to be done with these.

Aug 1, 2009 1:11 am
dinosaur:

sounds like go huskie and the rest of the wells farguzzlers just keep taking it & swallowin…good luck w/ that…heard powers are reviewing all plans & cancelling 2nd snapshot



I heard that you are gayer than Freddy Mercury's buttplug.
Aug 1, 2009 1:49 am

[quote=AGEMAN]Have all of you noticed the nice non-solicit clause in the contract for the forefront money??[/quote]

Dun dun dun

Aug 1, 2009 2:11 pm

We won’t get the 4front contracts until mid August. So where did you see it.

Aug 1, 2009 4:43 pm

Notice that we are now in August and we do not have an updated snapshot for end of June. Want to know why? The forces that created this moral hazard suddenly noticed that they would be paying out WAY more money than originally anticipated-- hence, a review by your BOM and the whole envison team to make sure that all plans are legit.  So at first they promote 5 minute and 6 questions financial planning and then are shocked, shocked I tell you to find that some may game the system.  Can’t wait to hear how they will be tracking the plans for nine years for those that sign up for the upfront loans.