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It shows how this douch bag knows about the forefront program. You don’t have to have a brain to be a big producer
talking about bp
[quote=BE PATIENT]Your going to pocket a 100k? That means you are a 200k producer. Man, we need some big hitters on this forum.[/quote]
holy crap. All this time I thought you had an idea about how the program works. you really are clueless. I’m on a transition deal already from several years back.
Not everyone gets the 50% of T-12. it depends on dozens of factors.
I am maxing out what is eligible to me. 50% of my t-12 would mean Bentley(s) time. I might even have enough left over to buy your wife some new tits.
Just remember to divide that big number by nine for each of the years it will vest. Sold my soul to the devil once…
Most small producers will leave the bank/wirehouses channel because the payout isn’t enough to cover their monthly expense. Everything else is excuses
No email today from ISG. I also was early to submit my manager approval The beat goes on…
Still no e-mails? Still no contracts? Whats it going to take for you guys to raise a little HELL around there?
Friday.Still no e-mails? Still no contracts? Whats it going to take for you guys to raise a little HELL around there?
The forefront bonus will have so many strings attached that most people will not ever realize the total award. The firm controls how much will be paid out. They may LEND a big number in two weeks, but, most FA’s will not tolerate the new directives, quotas, and revised compensation policy. You cannot leave firms once you sign. First you have to pay back the loan with interest.
We were told today at National Sales that 100 e-mails were sent out last week and were to be processed for payment today. With such a low percentage of people involved, I can only imagine that this was a test run. Was not given a timeline for when e-mails for the remainder will go out. I think it is fair to say that frustration is running high at the lack of communication from the firm. Let's try to keep it together and stay in a positive state of mind. To put it incontext, there are millions of American's that would be thrilled if their employer was off by only a week in getting them a pay package like we are all waiting for.
I was at HQ today and met with the director of envision. We are getting paid, don’t listen to outsiders like ButtPirate. 700 plans were emailed last week, and several thousand more this week. They are working overtime to get them approved.
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We were told today at National Sales that 100 e-mails were sent out last week and were to be processed for payment today. With such a low percentage of people involved, I can only imagine that this was a test run. Was not given a timeline for when e-mails for the remainder will go out. I think it is fair to say that frustration is running high at the lack of communication from the firm. Let’s try to keep it together and stay in a positive state of mind. To put it incontext, there are millions of American’s that would be thrilled if their employer was off by only a week in getting them a pay package like we are all waiting for.
[/quote]Funny thing is that everyone I know that calls seems to get a different answer. 100 sent out?? Thats all? There has to be at least a few thousand participating.
[quote=PremierAdvisor]I was at HQ today and met with the director of envision. We are getting paid, don’t listen to outsiders like ButtPirate. 700 plans were emailed last week, and several thousand more this week. They are working overtime to get them approved.[/quote]
That more like it.
If it is true, and I'm not doubting you, that 700 plans were e-mailed, and they are working overtime, then I can't understand why the firm is not communicating this to the field. 4Front is a major deal for many people. I would not mind the delay if I knew that progress was being made. An update on the 4Front web page on Infomax would go a long way. Obviously the person we spoke to today was either not up to date, or blowing smoke to get off the phone.
[quote=Happy]
We were told today at National Sales that 100 e-mails were sent out last week and were to be processed for payment today. With such a low percentage of people involved, I can only imagine that this was a test run. Was not given a timeline for when e-mails for the remainder will go out. I think it is fair to say that frustration is running high at the lack of communication from the firm. Let's try to keep it together and stay in a positive state of mind. To put it incontext, there are millions of American's that would be thrilled if their employer was off by only a week in getting them a pay package like we are all waiting for. [/quote]
Thanks Mr. Happy! That's swell! I wonder if those millions of Americans have what it takes to be a big producer. I wonder if they'd have the work ethic and the smarts to build a business like ours from scratch. And if so, I wonder what those same Americans would do right now. Take a 50% T12 deal from a firm thats been bait and switching them for 11 months or a 300%+ deal from a competitive firm. Hmmm, well, none the less, I'm going to be taxed so heavily in the near future that you can tell those millions of Americans that help is on the way! So for you and those millions of Americans, I'm going to keep it together and stay positive for just a bit longer. Thanks for the pep talk. I feel better now. Besides...If you're happy, then I'm happy. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) Happy...Have you ever met a guy named Be Patient? You 2 would really hit it off well.[quote=FawnLiebowitz][quote=Happy]
We were told today at National Sales that 100 e-mails were sent out last week and were to be processed for payment today. With such a low percentage of people involved, I can only imagine that this was a test run. Was not given a timeline for when e-mails for the remainder will go out. I think it is fair to say that frustration is running high at the lack of communication from the firm. Let's try to keep it together and stay in a positive state of mind. To put it incontext, there are millions of American's that would be thrilled if their employer was off by only a week in getting them a pay package like we are all waiting for. [/quote]
Thanks Mr. Happy! That's swell! I wonder if those millions of Americans have what it takes to be a big producer. I wonder if they'd have the work ethic and the smarts to build a business like ours from scratch. And if so, I wonder what those same Americans would do right now. Take a 50% T12 deal from a firm thats been bait and switching them for 11 months or a 300%+ deal from a competitive firm. Hmmm, well, none the less, I'm going to be taxed so heavily in the near future that you can tell those millions of Americans that help is on the way! So for you and those millions of Americans, I'm going to keep it together and stay positive for just a bit longer. Thanks for the pep talk. I feel better now. Besides...If you're happy, then I'm happy. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) Happy...Have you ever met a guy named Be Patient? You 2 would really hit it off well.[/quote] There are going to be so many pissed off brokers when they read the fine print in this handcuff contract, they will take the 300% and never look backThe tests are small groups because they are measuring the response before they go national. Calculating the fallout. Or," Acceptable attrition"
[quote=FawnLiebowitz][quote=Happy]
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Thanks Mr. Happy! That's swell! I wonder if those millions of Americans have what it takes to be a big producer. I wonder if they'd have the work ethic and the smarts to build a business like ours from scratch. And if so, I wonder what those same Americans would do right now. Take a 50% T12 deal from a firm thats been bait and switching them for 11 months or a 300%+ deal from a competitive firm. Hmmm, well, none the less, I'm going to be taxed so heavily in the near future that you can tell those millions of Americans that help is on the way! So for you and those millions of Americans, I'm going to keep it together and stay positive for just a bit longer. Thanks for the pep talk. I feel better now. Besides...If you're happy, then I'm happy. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) Happy...Have you ever met a guy named Be Patient? You 2 would really hit it off well.[/quote] Fawn, Maybe if you spent some time listening to Otis Day & the Knights you would not be so bitter. If you are that unhappy, and you have a ligit offer on the table, just leave. I would hate to have you sitting next to me at a meeting. You sound like the jerk who was in the room with me that complained to Danny that the 4front award was going to push him into a higher marginal tax bracket. BP has nothing contructive to say, I'm trying to be rational and optomistic.[quote=Happy][quote=FawnLiebowitz][quote=Happy]
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Thanks Mr. Happy! That's swell! I wonder if those millions of Americans have what it takes to be a big producer. I wonder if they'd have the work ethic and the smarts to build a business like ours from scratch. And if so, I wonder what those same Americans would do right now. Take a 50% T12 deal from a firm thats been bait and switching them for 11 months or a 300%+ deal from a competitive firm. Hmmm, well, none the less, I'm going to be taxed so heavily in the near future that you can tell those millions of Americans that help is on the way! So for you and those millions of Americans, I'm going to keep it together and stay positive for just a bit longer. Thanks for the pep talk. I feel better now. Besides...If you're happy, then I'm happy. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) Happy...Have you ever met a guy named Be Patient? You 2 would really hit it off well.[/quote] Fawn, Maybe if you spent some time listening to Otis Day & the Knights you would not be so bitter. If you are that unhappy, and you have a ligit offer on the table, just leave. I would hate to have you sitting next to me at a meeting. You sound like the jerk who was in the room with me that complained to Danny that the 4front award was going to push him into a higher marginal tax bracket. BP has nothing contructive to say, I'm trying to be rational and optomistic. [/quote] Happy, follow my posts. I'm cleary a WFA fan and Danny supporter for whatever reason. I clearly also see why someone would leave in a second (AGE or otherwise). I'm not leaving until I see how MSSB, MER, UBS and the indy route shape up in the next couple of years. Your post just set me off. A bit too cheery and cheesy. I'm a positive gal and I'm positive I'm getting paid. No worries on my end. Best of luck to you.Fawn,
Fair enough, Let's just chalk it up to frustration. Hopefully we will soon be posting about the confirmation e-mails we received.