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Aug 24, 2009 1:23 am

i think bp legit   WS fa in richmond did 1.3 ish in 08.  maybe a PRU guy.   took a check from mack after WFC

Aug 24, 2009 1:46 am
A b:

i think bp legit WS fa in richmond did 1.3 ish in 08. maybe a PRU guy. took a check from mack after WFC



bullsh*t. i just don't believe it. i know a handful of million+ producers and this kid (bp) just doesn't fit the mold. not even close.

my guess:

230k producer at wach/wells that had a wet dream of being recruited but obviously wouldn't be considered, and furthermore, probably doesn't qualify for 4front. This, I'm guessing is THE source of his frustration that motivates this oddball curiosity of a retention program at a firm he (ahem) doesn't work for!??. it's all too hilarious.

BP= Busted Piker
Aug 24, 2009 2:11 am

I haven’t the energy to care about this person so I don’t bother.

Aug 24, 2009 2:34 am

     I find it very humorous that many of you debate the credibility of the respondents. The only consistent pattern seems to be advisors whom attempt to brag about their production and the checks they have recvd. from jumping from wire to wire. We can talk about BMW’s, Million+ Houses, etc., but the only true indication of a person’s worth is their ethics and morals. These traits are no longer possible with the major wirehouses. You can argue about Forefront or Envision. All it means is that you do not have control over your clients portfolios. Stop bragging about all the monies you have made by towing the corporate line. Placing your clients and inherited clients in your companies platform is simple and does not require any financial expertice.

     If you do not have the guts to go INDY then just shut up and keep collecting your wrap fees from your companies pre-chosen investments. I would be able to respect you more if you admitted that your sole goal is to pay for your BMW and hope that everything else falls into place. LEAD OR BE LED!!

    

Aug 24, 2009 5:36 pm
Apollo 13:

     I find it very humorous that many of you debate the credibility of the respondents. The only consistent pattern seems to be advisors whom attempt to brag about their production and the checks they have recvd. from jumping from wire to wire. We can talk about BMW’s, Million+ Houses, etc., but the only true indication of a person’s worth is their ethics and morals. These traits are no longer possible with the major wirehouses. You can argue about Forefront or Envision. All it means is that you do not have control over your clients portfolios. Stop bragging about all the monies you have made by towing the corporate line. Placing your clients and inherited clients in your companies platform is simple and does not require any financial expertice.
     If you do not have the guts to go INDY then just shut up and keep collecting your wrap fees from your companies pre-chosen investments. I would be able to respect you more if you admitted that your sole goal is to pay for your BMW and hope that everything else falls into place. LEAD OR BE LED!!
    

    ur dumb
Aug 24, 2009 9:33 pm
Apollo 13:

     I find it very humorous that many of you debate the credibility of the respondents. The only consistent pattern seems to be advisors whom attempt to brag about their production and the checks they have recvd. from jumping from wire to wire. We can talk about BMW’s, Million+ Houses, etc., but the only true indication of a person’s worth is their ethics and morals. These traits are no longer possible with the major wirehouses. You can argue about Forefront or Envision. All it means is that you do not have control over your clients portfolios. Stop bragging about all the monies you have made by towing the corporate line. Placing your clients and inherited clients in your companies platform is simple and does not require any financial expertice.
     If you do not have the guts to go INDY then just shut up and keep collecting your wrap fees from your companies pre-chosen investments. I would be able to respect you more if you admitted that your sole goal is to pay for your BMW and hope that everything else falls into place. LEAD OR BE LED!!
    

  Hmmmm, so, ethics and morals are no longer possible at a WH you say. Painting any subject with such a brush only makes you look like an angry little blowhard. You get the boot from a WH or some such? The three somewhat prolific indy names I've spoken with can't even support the kind of business I run, regrettably.    
Aug 24, 2009 11:24 pm

Does anyone have a contract in hand yet?
Has anyone received an e-mail saying their contract is going to be delivered this week?

Aug 24, 2009 11:43 pm

Nothing yet, we had an issue and could not submit our plans until last Wednesday.

Aug 24, 2009 11:48 pm

[quote=A b]i think bp legit   WS fa in richmond did 1.3 ish in 08.  maybe a PRU guy.   took a check from mack after WFC [/quote]

Not from Richmond. They haven’t lost any 1M FA this year.

Aug 25, 2009 12:24 am

Nothing so far from ISG. What also is frustrating is that we have never seen a report stating the # of plans, payout percentate, and Total $ figure.   This is kind of like playing a football game without a scoreboard. No idea what the results will be until the game is over. WTF

Aug 25, 2009 12:32 am

Got my check today. A little odd, it was for a lot more than I expected and it said publishers clearing house on it.   Depositing it at the branch tomorrow!

Aug 25, 2009 1:04 am
DigDug:

Got my check today. A little odd, it was for a lot more than I expected and it said publishers clearing house on it.   Depositing it at the branch tomorrow!



me too!!!!!



Aug 25, 2009 1:08 am

[quote=DigDug]Got my check today. A little odd, it was for a lot more than I expected and it said publishers clearing house on it.   Depositing it at the branch tomorrow![/quote]

Gotta wonder if thats all we can hope for. I hear BigGame over 150 mill. Yeah its odd. No reports. Nothing at all. Manager seems fine that all is well, but the reality is how are they going to payout on time? Be Sept in a week. I though we would have check by then.

Aug 25, 2009 3:04 am

I TOLD YOU SO !!!

Aug 25, 2009 3:17 am
BE PATIENT:

I TOLD YOU SO !!!



You told us nothing you f*cking hateful jerk. Reports will be in hand by week end, then payment in 3 days.
Aug 25, 2009 3:48 am

Oh thank God, DigDug is Danny, or maybe he is the head of the forefront/envision department. We can quit the thread, Digdug has the answers. Look, I am not rooting against you guys, as I have said before I have a lot of friends still with you guys, but at some point you guys need to quit ripping me and start calling your foreront department and asking what the hell is going on. Until now everyone was wondering when, but digdug has cracked the riddle, answered the questions, everyone can sleep easy tonight. Thank you digdug

Aug 25, 2009 3:55 am

Hey moron, you ever stop your hate filled vitriol to consider that maybe what I posted WAS what the envision department told me? You really are a fool.

Aug 25, 2009 2:51 pm

Key word Ferris “SUPPOSED”.

Aug 25, 2009 6:19 pm

the first several hundred are through the queue and will be emailed out.   In a weeks time we will be laughing at BP.

Aug 25, 2009 7:38 pm

I guess I’ll believe it when I see my email.  This firm has done another horrific job w/ communication during this entire process.  I believe the intentions are good, but the execution of nearly everything the company attempts is pathetically executed.