SERIES 66... Seriously?

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Passed the S7 with a 82%.  No special circmstances, just studied, and made it happen.  Not the best, but I definitely could have done worse.  On to the Series 66...I happened to mention the impending exam (hadn't even received the material yet) to a co-worker, when an adviser from another branch walked by and nearly ran into the wall in order to MAKE SURE he provided his 2 cents.  "Series 66??  Ohhh, GOOD LUCK!  Don't use Kaplan!, I passed the 7 with a 94 and it took me 3 attempts to pass the 66, it's horrible" ...Kaplan is the material provided by our firm, of course.  ...and the discouragement ensued.I've done every type of research I could on the content of the exam.  Whether it was from NASAA themselves, or simply those that have experienced it first hand - yet was unable to draw a specific conclusion as to a similar contributing factor of the horrible passing average.  I've head everythin from "the way the questions are worded makes it near impossible to understand what theyre asking," to "the study material is simply inaccurate."So given this information, I decided to do what any over-achiever with a complete intolerance for failure would do... and studied like imy life depended on it.  Honestly, I studied 3x harder than I did for the S7, as failure of the 66 would be a bit harder to swallow.  BUT....  that's exactly what happened.  I walked into Prometric with the perfect balance of confidence and anxiety... but as the exam went on - I couldn't help but feel an amazing sense of relief!  Seriously??  "Client with a Long-term time horizon, adverse to risk, who wants to preserve capital??"  A.) Government bondsB.)  ChickensC.) Bubble gumD.) Wanna ride bikes? ....ok, not literally, but that's a perfect indication of how sure I was of my answers.  Trust me, I "RTFQ" ...as a matter of fact, I did so twice as I finished in enough time to reveiw the test in its entirety - and no is didn't change any answers.  The reveiw simply solidified my confidence in my original answer selection.  I can't stress enough how unlike me that is.  I'm a realist - these exams are tough - I'm very aware of the ways they try to throw you off.  - if the State Administrator himself came over and said I could have an addl hr to run through it again - I would have refused.Upon completion, and that oh-so-familiar blank grey screen appeared while my score was generated... instead of the usual ability to hear my heart beat for what feels like an eternity... I found myself staring at my Drivers License wondering how anyone ever let me get away with that hair color!?And there it was:   74%    FAILI stared at the screen for the next 3 minutes, waiting for a "Ha!  Just kidding genius, here's your 97%" ...but that didn't happen.  SO - the point of my thread is this:  I invested MORE than enough time to studying for this exam.  I would have accepted failure of the Series 7 12x in a row before THIS.  I was MORE THAN CONFIDENT in my answers - which makes it nearly impossible to determine what happened, or how to FIX it.help.  please.  anyone? 

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I opted for the 65 and studied the walker book on amazon " pass the 65" ; studied 3 hours for 2 nights and passed with no problem. That walker book really helped. Normally if you fail the 66 you can "open the window" for the 65 right away...  good luck! 

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Kes, welcome to the forum!From what I understand, the 66 is a combo of the 63 and 65. I've taken both, but a long time ago, 1992 for the 63, and about 1995 for the 65. The 63 I failed the first time, by one question, had not taken it seriously. No trouble the second time. Then, I took the 65 in 1995, and after about 20 minutes of study, passed with a 90%. The 65 back then was easy, kind of a joke, common sense. I'm not sure if the 65 is still that easy.Anyway, so many years later, about 5 yrs ago, some of my colleagues were told it was a requirement for them to have the 65. So, they were given material, and got signed up for the....66. So, the pass rate was quite poor, test difficult, and numerous complaints about how poor the study material was, didn't match up to the test. I told my buddies, "why on earth didn't you just take the 65, since you already have the series 63??"I"d be interested in hearing if the 65 is still a pretty simple process.As far as test goes, you'll only have to go through the stupid hurdles of the 7, Life/Health, 66, whatever...once in your life. Get it over, take it serious, and move along. Nobody cares the least bit what your score was, and if you scored REALLY high, keep it to yourself, because the washout rate is significantly higher for folks that scored in the good 90's, compared to the low 70's. This is a sales job, not an academic one... 

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I took the 66 a bit over year ago and passed with a 77%.  I used Fire Solutions, my company's choice, and found them to be extremely useful.   Each and every question seems to be designed to trick you.  A 74% is not bad and until last January, that would have passed.  I would recommend hitting the material again and giving yourself 2 weeks to study.  Practice tests were my saving grace, I found the material dry and daunting, but simply doing the questions over and over got me accquainted with how the test would appear.  As far as identifying your missteps, that will be hard to pin down, like you said.  Good luck and don't get down, this is merely a jumping off point to better things.

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I don't know what state you are in but our state has a requirement for the testing centers to only allow X number of people to pass the test each month. As that number increases or decreases so does the level of difficulty of the test... take it again, you will do fine, post more pics cutie!!

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3x5 cards, that is the secret to passing anything. Flash cards, key terms, dates, phrases...And...I second ND's motion....

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As you know, it's a very hard test. I was right there with you back on July 12. Staring at the screen-my heart about to pound through my chest-as my score was calculating. 71%. When I saw the score I seriously thought that my eyes must have just found a score for only a section of the test or something and that I just hadn't seen my actual score yet. It honestly took me a few minutes before I accepted that as my final score... I made an 86% on the 7. No problem... And, like you, I read and studied EVERYTHING I was supposed to for the 66. And, took ALL of the practice tests. And, averaged in the 80's on the practice tests. I thought I was set. But, the practice tests I took and the actual 66 were 2 different tests entirely. After studying a different set of materials and retaking the test after the 30 day wait, I scored an 89%.I think that those that haven't taken the test since the update would be in for a surprise.  Here's the thing, not only has the test introduced new questions and material and raised the passing score, but the general laws and regulations have changed as well. I don’t think that some vendors have updated their material to be in line with the new test. It is my perception that my orignal provider got the majority of their practice test’s questions from previous tester’s feedback. With this being a new test, I don’t feel that their material was up to date with the new testing. (My original provider was great for the 7. The 7 hasn’t been updated and their practice material was in line with the actual test. I made an 86% with their material)My advice: go to testeachers.com and sign up. Do everything they instruct you to do. It's an absolute pain to go through the material again, but most likely your job is riding on you passing this test this time around.  Don't chance it.

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testteachersonline .com Best money you will ever spend. $100 for the 66????? I used them for the options portion of my 7 ($25!). I scored an 83 on both exams. It will help. You'll do great. Of the two exams, I thought the 66 was a lot harder.P.S. I have nothing to do with that website other than being a happy customer.

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call/ pushcall add lower strike pricepush up.  remember that and you will pass. :)

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I just failed the 66 twice, after getting a different book as well.  The second time I actually thought the test was easier (wording was simpler maybe?) but ended up with the same exact score as the first time.  I feel your pain Kes1122.  So now I am debating on trying again, or getting the 63 and then the 65 later down the road.  I haven't actually started soliciting business because I don't have state licensing yet, so I was thinking that if I could just get the 63 done with I can finally start prospecting/calling.  Any suggestions?

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Take the 63. Do you have a 7?

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Sorry to hear that KES....but don't feel bad, you are not alone.  The series 66 is proving to be extremely difficult.  I got a 90 on the series 7, studied hard for the 66 only to fail with scores of 71 and 73.  I just took and passed the 63 and am studying for the 65.  N.D......where did you get that info about the test centers only allowing x number of passing test takers?

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careerchngr wrote:Sorry to hear that KES....but don't feel bad, you are not alone.  The series 66 is proving to be extremely difficult.  I got a 90 on the series 7, studied hard for the 66 only to fail with scores of 71 and 73.  I just took and passed the 63 and am studying for the 65.  N.D......where did you get that info about the test centers only allowing x number of passing test takers? I apologize for not being clear earlier but it is a pass/fail ratio range they are required to stay with in. This info was given to me by word of mouth from an employee at the testing center. I do not or have ever thought about verifying it. I passed the first time so I didn't see a reason to be mislead but it is possible I was.

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I would agree with everybody else that the 66 is pretty tough.  I passed on my first try and the only I advice I would give is to take the practice tests over and over and over.....until you are sick and tired of them.

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PRactice tests from where, Westwood?

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I do have the 7 and will schedule for the 63 sometime later this week, probably taking it on monday. 

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KES1122 wrote:PRactice tests from where, Westwood?My firm provided us with Test Prep material from PassPerfect.  We had the 2010 version, so from what I hear what extremely helpful, since they just changed  the exam material and format.  We didn't get any books other then a cliff notes version of the content in a little sprial bound booklet to refer to.  We had to complete the chapters and tests thru the online course, which was really convenient.  Once you read and completed the courses, I just kept taking practice after practice test.It was really helpul, I would highly reccommned PassPerfect materials, had them both for the 7 and 66. 

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This Series 66 must have changed dramatically, I took mine in 2002 with a 92 and Series 7 with a 94.My good CSA for the last six years, was told by the firm this year she had to take and pass the Series 7 and 66. Three attempts at the Series 7  passed the third with a 78. On the 66 - got a 73 and 74. Studied for weeks, took different books and exams, had a two day live coaching plus a webinar. And got the 74 on the second shot. The firm will not let her take the 63 or wait again. Her last day is 30 days away. I am bummed out big time, she cried for days....Study hard - didn't help. It seems that no 3rd party has good test preparation questions. Kaplan sucks. 

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Kaplan is what I used for the first time, then got pass the 66 by Robert Walker, while still using the practice CD from Kaplan.  Pass the 7 helped me out, but the practice exams were cheesy and baby you.  The test prep material is weird compared to the actual exam (66).  For some reason, the exam question wording is vague and simplistic compared to the 2 paragraphs of questions on the practice exams.  My supervisors are telling me that they studied for the 66 and 24 all in one week or something ridiculous.  One has a law degree so I'm sure that helped, but were these exams totally different back then?  What gives?  I reeeaaallly wish the 66 was a 70 to pass, I wouldn't be stuck taking the 63 just to start working, even though I'm sure I'll have to take the 66 later on down the road.   I have the Kaplan material for the 63, although outdated by 3 years, and I ordered Empire Stockbrokers 63 material which is up to date, so let's hope that does the trick.

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Kaplan is what I used for the first time, then got pass the 66 by Robert Walker, while still using the practice CD from Kaplan.  Pass the 7 helped me out, but the practice exams were cheesy and baby you.  The test prep material is weird compared to the actual exam (66).  For some reason, the exam question wording is vague and simplistic compared to the 2 paragraphs of questions on the practice exams.  My supervisors are telling me that they studied for the 66 and 24 all in one week or something ridiculous.  One has a law degree so I'm sure that helped, but were these exams totally different back then?  What gives?  I reeeaaallly wish the 66 was a 70 to pass, I wouldn't be stuck taking the 63 just to start working, even though I'm sure I'll have to take the 66 later on down the road.   I have the Kaplan material for the 63, although outdated by 3 years, and I ordered Empire Stockbrokers 63 material which is up to date, so let's hope that does the trick.

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Hey KES, I think you might want to take a look at the PassPerfect Smart 66.  The thing I liked about this company's study materials is how it drills the information into your little cerebellum through the chapter quizzes.  If you get a question wrong, it'll ask you a different question but on the same topic you just got wrong, up to 3 times.  If you get it wrong all 3 times it'll flag it for you so you know what areas you struggled with the most. It also does a good job of explaining why the answer you chose is incorrect.I'm not sure what methods you learn from best, but I personally am not a read and retain type of person.  I like to have repetition so maybe this will help:  I only the read the book once, and I cruised through it as fast as I could.  After each chapter I did the book quiz, and then went on the Smart 66 and did the chapter quizzes that I was mentioning.  After, I would review the questiosn I got wrong and cut and paste the question and answer of all the ones I got wrong into a word document and then cut those to make some flash cards.  When studying the flashcards I would make 2 piles, RIGHT and WRONG.  I would keep going through any of the cards in the "wrong" pile until there were none left.  Eventually, you'll have flashcards for all the questions and topics you struggled with most.  Also important is to  make sure that you actually read the answer and explanation each time you put the card back into the "wrong" pile.  It's one thing to memorize the answers, and it's another to understand them! I know this sounds like a juvenile way of studying, but for me it helped a great deal.I almost forgot to mention that the Smart 66 also has a number of timed practice tests that are weighted by topic in the same format as the actual 66.  I think there's 10 total.Anyways, good luck on the test, you were almost there anyways!  Now you just have tie up some loose ends and you'll be good to go!

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I used Keir for both 7 and 66 and didn't have a huge problem with either of them. The program I used had online tests and a correspondent you worked with in their offices to help go through areas I did poorly on. I've since given my books to others to study from (without the online part) and they've liked them a lot more then the Kaplan or Securities Training Corporation ones.

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The 66 is SO DRY to study for.... the material covered is so non-interesting it makes one gag.... but not as boring as the 24..

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Get the Pass the 66 ExamCram Online Test Prep and the textbook by Robert  Walker at a bare minimum.  Not sure what a "cheesy" practice exam would be, but the guy who writes those questions and that book actually took and blew away the exam recently, unlike the folks writing questions and books at other companies.  The big companies are under a settlement with the regulators barring their instructors from taking the tests they "teach". You'll be able to understand what the exam is talking about at the very least.

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Good timing to read this post. Passed the Series 7 recently with no major problems, and assumed the 66 would be a cakewalk. Actually just got my 66 book in today, I'm using RegEd (as i did for the 7) for their study book and online practice tests. The practive exams from RegEd seem very detailed, and for the 7 were actually harder than the questions on the actual 7 exam. Just another company to check out  

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BullRunt wrote:I took the 66 a bit over year ago and passed with a 77%.  I used Fire Solutions, my company's choice, and found them to be extremely useful.   Each and every question seems to be designed to trick you.  A 74% is not bad and until last January, that would have passed.  I would recommend hitting the material again and giving yourself 2 weeks to study.  Practice tests were my saving grace, I found the material dry and daunting, but simply doing the questions over and over got me accquainted with how the test would appear.  As far as identifying your missteps, that will be hard to pin down, like you said.  Good luck and don't get down, this is merely a jumping off point to better things. I would agree with BullRunt here.  I took the Series 7 when I worked on the institutional side several years ago, but took the 66 when I joined up with ML.  Failed it by ONE POINT as well the first time around, simply because of a combination of a few things - time between taking the previous test (not in the right frame of mind, I suppose), and I ignored Fire Solutions, which Merrill provided.  I studied only STC, which I used to a lot of success with the 7.  Case in point, don't lose your mind.  I studied differently the next time, and passed with flying colors the next time around.  A LOT of people fail the 66 the first go around.  I'll give you an example - I passed the CFP (this year) on the first shot and had trouble with the 66.  Keep the faith.  

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Kris, I passed my 7 6 months ago with a 93 and as soon as I started studying for the 66 I knew the test was gonna be a bear, not becasue of the material but the test is written by lawyers, so everything is intended to trip you up and confuse you.I luckily passed with a 77 my first time but when I hit submit I thought for sure I failed. I used pass perfect and it was great, I forced myself to read everything and take each chapter test, then once the reading was done I never looked at the reading material again.  My advice if the test is 100 questions you should take 1500 practice questions minimum.  If you do that you will most likely see every question at least twice.  If you need practice tests let me know I will send you my pass perfect CD, in return for 2 7 figure clients:)

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Add me to the list of people that passed the 66 the first time using Pass Perfect.  I pretty much just followed the program (took each section exam with 2 80's or higher), and then took about 7 finals.  It's VERY important to go back over each final and look at the explanations of the questions you missed AND the questions you got right.  The explanations of each question are what solidify your knowledge, and its just as important to know WHY you got the correct answers as well as WHY you missed the incorrect ones.   My high on the finals was 87, low was 77, and average was around 83.   I got an 84 on the actual exam.    The one caveat I would say is that the actual wording on the 66 was trickier than the finals from PassPerfect.   There were alot of questions involving Fraud/prohibited acts, and the choices on the actual exam were very nitpicky as to whether something was prohibited or not.   Most of the time it came down to just one word or phrase in the question or the answer.  

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KletusYou just made my day.  I have been using the passperfect material for the 66, took my last practice test today.  I will take the actual exam tomorrow.  I took 7 practice finals with an average of 86, high 93 low 82.  Based on what I was reading it sounded damn near impossible to pass this thing.  You are a very good comparison to my situation.  Hope I do as well as you. Would you care to post your email so I could pick your brain.

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Bored,If you are getting over an 85 on the passperfect finals then you are prepared for the exam.    I'd say the most important thing for you to do at this point is relax, get a good nights sleep and have a good breakfast in the morning.   Your success on the actual test will most likely hinge on your reading comprehension of the questions more than whether you study harder from this point.Keep in mind... this test is mainly about protecting investors from fraud.    Here are may keys to study:1.  Know the details of anything that is prohibited or fraudulent inside and out.    There was literally one question for me where every single thing the example did was against the rules... but you had to pick out the one thing that was MOST wrong.2.  Know the exclusions and exemptions for State and Federal  Broker-dealers and Advisers.These two things were most of the exam.The rest of the info should really have already been drilled into your brain by passperfect. If a question has you stumped... try thinking of it a different way.    Remember that every question is on the exam for a reason.   So look at the question and ask yourself  "what are they trying to find out if I know?"   There is likely some very small detail in the question or one of the answers that makes all the difference.   I know that a few had me stumped, but then I saw the key phrase and the answer was obvious.   An example might be Municipal bonds.... if you see   Low Tax bracket, IRA, retirement plan, etc in a question... then there is a good chance they might be trying to get you to point out that "municpal bonds aren't a good choice for retirement plans".All the themes are the same, but the wording WILL be different than what you are used to seeing on passperfect.   The biggest thing is "what are they asking me".   I am in a group of 4 new FA's to start at nearly the same time out of our area.   So far we are 3 for 3 on the 66 using passperfect.     You'll do fine . I'm not big on giving out my email because if I'm not careful my email program will respond with my email that has my real name in it.   However, feel free to PM me if you have any questions.   I'll probably be checking stuff on the computer for another couple of hours tonight.

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Passed the 66 today with an 80.  Tough test much tougher than the 7.  Used Passperfect and though I think it helped a great deal, the wording on this test was so different.  Anyway happy to get it and move on.

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Study 2 times as hard as you did originally for the 66.  Not a test you should fail twice.  The statistics are against you each time you fail.

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Today I took the 66 and failed.  I got a 62, but to be honest I have to say that I didn't put in the right amount of time for certain areas.  I passed the 7 and I figured that the hard part was over.  Boy was I wrong.  I thought I knew the Client Recommendations and strategies section well, so I didn't really do much studying for it.  So I got a 48% on just that section which killed me.  I am using Kaplan,and I think that if I just study a bit harder this time I should be fine.  This test is so humbling.  I had to walk back into the office and tell everyone I failed.  I was embarassed, but I guess that is what you get when you don't study hard enough.  I might try some different material to study from, but I thought that the Kaplan stuff was decent.  Does anyone know what I have to do besides wait the 30 days?  My 120 day window passes on December 31.  What do I have to do to open a new window?  Can I just sign up making sure that it is 30 days from the day that I last took the test?Pete

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Kes you aren't ready for this biz if you have all this detail in your message, start in operations.

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Yes, I'm sick. Studied for the passed 8 weeks and got a 66. Used FireSolutions and the test was nothing like FireSolutions. I should have stuck with STC. But, when two other guys in the office got thru with FS and said it was all they needed, I trusted their advice. Hopefully my wirehouse who's having trouble finding good recruits will stick by me as I hope to take it again next month. But, if not, it's not the end the of the world. Another guy in my office took it for the 2nd time today and scored a 75. He was so thrilled to just pass it. Guess I'll put my trust in STC this time.

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The good news is that you have your score sheet from the 66, so you know what areas you need to work on.  I'm not familiar with either the FireSolutions or STC, but the key is to use a system that has lots of practice questions, AND has good explanations of the answers.  I don't think any of the study programs have had enough time to get the wording exactly right.   They have to concentrate on the Theories.   Therefore, its very important for you to take practice exams from any source you can get, and understand the WHY behind every correct and wrong answer.Best of luck to you on the next try.   It's a hard exam. 

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I took the 66 and 7 in 1999 and got a 72 and 85 respectively.  I have been out of the business for five years and am getting back in now so I have just had to take all of the exams again.  I studied for about three weeks for the 7 (STC Interactive) and got a 92.  I studied with STC's materials for the 66 for about 14 days but only in the evenings after owrk and then most of the weekend.  I got an 82.I was pretty mad about half way through the exam.  Not becuase the material was hard but because I busted my butt to understand the material, did everything I was supposed to and the questions are just flat out unfair.  The way they are written doesn't test my knowledge of a law or concept it instead is meant to have you doubting yourself on almost every other question.  I felt like I had a chance to pass when I clicked submit but in no way was I confident.  It's really a shame that this exam is allowed to be such a ridiculous display of trickery and deceit.

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Good description of the exam clainclain, I'd have to say that's exactly the feeling I had during the test. I'm curious if the 63 and 65 are as concerned with tricking you rather than simply testing your knowledge...

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I second testteachers.com.  I used them for the 66 and passed the first time. 

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I Took the 66 this morning (Passed barely with a 76), and figured i would give some observations while things are fresh. The exam is frustrating as everyone know, but i did notice however that there were some areas which i studied and only had a couple questions on, and other areas that i either didnt read or werent in my bookMy practice material (Book & online exams by RegEd) was mostly dedicated to the USA, and focused on knowing all of the particular exemptions when registering as a B/D, IA, or registering a security. All in all I swear i only had 3-4 questions which you needed to know those specifics. Also my practice materials had a chapter on Modern Portfolio Theory, CAPM..etc, and I had 0 questions in regards to this.That being said, my exam had a lot of material in regards to the NASAA policy on Dishonest and Unethical behavior, and particularily had questions in which all the answers seemed as though they could fit( as was written already in this thread, sometimes looking for the Most Wrong Answer). My biggest piece of advice (for what it is worth) would be to know the differences between the 33 act, 34' Act ,USA, NASAA you can have an idea of what the questions are looking for.Anyways onward we go. best of luck to those with the 66 just take it one question at a time.

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A colleague just used Firesolutions and failed by 2 points.  Many have had good to say about using Training Consultants to pass on the first try.

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I have met at least 3 people that have used Training Consultants and
passed on the first attempt.  The book is only 125 pages, but the course
material is just what you need to know to pass.  I just took the Series
66 today and passed on the first attempt with an 87%.  About 25
questions were almost identical.  The rest of the material was what I
needed to know.
So, I can't recommend them enough.  I hope that it helps.

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Well I passed my series this morning (THANK GOD)  and have a few comments and suggestions that people here may find helpful. First, the people saying that you will score 10% lower on your 66 than on your 7 are simply wrong. I passed the 7 with a 72% first attempt using STC. I passed the 66 on my first attempt with an 81% using a  very good different vendor...So I have noticed a-lot of people saying they believed the 66 to be harder than the 7 and I would have to disagree. They only reason the 66 may seem harder is because you are not using the right vendor. Many people seem to be using STC for both the 7 and 66 and this is not the best way to go. My company once used this same method and while most passed the 7 on the first try, almost everyone failed the 66 on the first attempt. Some people seem to like STC for the 66, but from what I have heard, the practice tests are too easy and the material covered is not adequate for the actual test. Same deal with Kaplan and Pass Perfect... I've heard the same comments. My recomendation: TRAINING CONSULTANTSThis is the absolute best vendor to pass on your first attempt. You get a 125 page book that is litterally an enormous outline but it includes every single relevant topic that is on the exam. There wasn't one question on my test that I hadn't seen before in some form. Everything is done online and the study schedule is focused around recorded lectures for each section in the 8 chapters. (uniform securities act, NASAA, prudent investor act, IA Act of 1940, investment vehicle characteristics, investment recommendations and strategies, securites acts, and retirement/college tuition plans). This is the stuff you need to know and it is all there. Though the study schedule is good, the practice tests are what seals it. On my actual 66 exam, there must have been around 30 or so questions that were WORD FOR WORD the same questions from the practice final exams. I took each final exam twice (5 of them) and a random 110 question final the night before my test. These exams are hard and they are 100% exactly like what is encountered in the testing center. I struggled hard on each of my first attempts on the practive finals (only scored above a 75% on one out of five while looking almost every question up in the book). BUT I took them again, wrote down every question I got wrong and literally memorized 95% percent of 600 questions. THAT is how I passed. Finally,I did not dedicate my life to these exams. I put in the work monday through friday and that was it. Just take practice tests until you have them memorized. Good luck to you all!"Checkmark, highlight, underline" 

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I've seen a lot of people recommending Training Consultants for the 66 lately.I used STC and Pass the 66 by Robert Walker. I liked Pass the 66 as it broke down the rules and questions into plain english. When I took my test (and passed the first time) I saw only 1 or 2 questions that looked unfamiliar. I don't mean I saw the question word for word but I was familiar with the topic.The poster above hit the nail with STC. I felt like there were huge gaps of information missing in regards to the 66. I had two friends that both failed the first time by missing 2 questions. They each said they had around 30 questions that looked completely new to them and they had never seen anything on the subject in the STC study material.For the 7, STC Is great and one of the best.For what it's worth, I felt the 7 was a lot easier then the 66.For both test remember "3 spoons and a fork". This helped me a lot. It means look for what 3 of the answers have in common and the one that doesn't have anything in common with the other 3 is the fork and usually the correct answer.For the 66 specifically (and to a lesser extent the 7) - if you're unsure, choose the answer that gives the customer/client the greatest benefit.

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I really cannot stress how amazing TC is.  To better understand what I mean, let me explain:I got a 92 on my 7 using STC and taking a few fire solution tests.  I felt like I knew the material very well as a result of the stc books.  I also thought the STC questions were STRUCTURED similarly to the real questions.  I got an 88 on the 66 using TC.  The difference is that the questions were not just STRUCTURED the same as the real test, they were literally the SAME QUESTIONS.  I am not joking when I say I took the test in 55 minutes with a 7 minute pee and stretch break and I was surprised when I pushed the button and didn't get a 95%.  I knew I passed.  I felt like I could have stopped at 85 questions and would have passed.  There is simply no comparison to the TC material for the 66.  I have said this before and will say it again - you are an idiot if you don't use TC.  There will be no guessing.  I called Tina before the test and she said that with her newest material the pass rate is above 93%.  I literally felt like I was cheating when I took the test - thats how dead on the prep was.  

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Oh My Gosh.  Training Consultants is AMAZING.  I bought it after reading posts on here.  I was skeptical thinking "maybe these people just work for TC and are out here trying to get all of us to buy it".  Um, either way, I WAS NOT NERVOUS AT ALL while taking the test!  Every single question I had seen, or definitely could bring it down to 2 answers.  Some of the questions were IDENTICAL, not even kidding, and if they weren't identical, they were SO CLOSE that I knew the answer right away anyway!  I was done with the test in 1 hour, no joke.  I WAS SHOCKED that I didn't see 95% on that scoresheet.  I'll take an 88% though!  Seriously guys, get Training Consultants, spend the extra money, you will NOT regret it.  sure it might be extra money, but I am sure the bonus or salary increase you'll get for passing will be WELL worth it!

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I passed the series 7 with the STC that was provided by my firm, they also provided me with STC for the series 66. We had a new FAA that failed the 66 twice by using STC, so my confidence level in the material was very low, and it hurt my motivation to study using STC. I did go through the entire lesson plan but took only one practice exam from them.
Ive been reading a lot of posts on this website about how much better Training Consultants is for the 66, so I spent 225$ of my own money to buy the program. I studied for about 2 weeks, and took the 6 practice exams twice. I was getting 70's on the first try on the exams, and was getting high 80's and mid 90's on the second try, mostly due to memorization. After two weeks of studying TC, I figured I was ready for the test. So I PASSED with a 79! I could have done better if I studied more, but a pass is a pass :) I would say TC played a big part because maybe 20 or more questions are identical to those in the practice exams.
If you are getting a 74, then I would advise on getting the TC materials. Those 20 or more identical questions is more than enough to give you that extra "one point" that you need

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I am studying for the 66 now and using TC because of all the high recs from this post. I passed the 7 using STC as well as Kaplan and decided to give TC a try for the 66. Has anyone used TC for the 66 and taken it within the past month? If so please share any success/un-success stories.

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Well I just took the 66 two months in a row using Training Consultants. First time I got a 72 and retook it two days ago and got a 68, I couldn't believe it. I went into the test after taking TCs practice final exams and was averaging around an 85. First time I was averaging only around 75 and yet my score went down. Idk what happened I went in extremely confident and felt prepared. Idk if I should keep using TC or switch it up.

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Training Consultants did not work for you. There is no point to reading the same book and doing the same questions for the third time. (You may have done the questions more than three times.) I recommend Pass Perfect's Smart program to all of my 66 students. Their material is very thorough, including the answers to their questions. I think you should have a better chance of passing going in this direction. Pass Perfect helps you prepare for the exam but at the same time, you will also learn quite a bit during the process.

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I took the series 7 using stc and got a 53 and a trip to the unemployment office. Unfortunately for me my company had taken a brief hiatus from using TC but returned to it unknown to me while I was studying with stc. With free time now on my hands, I bought the series 63 book from TC on my own, did the U10 and passed with a 77.To be fair, my boss did let me borrow his TC series 7 book because it was easier to study but that was 2 weeks before my test. Too little too late. The only way I knew they were using TC again was because someone hired after me was using TC! Now I'm looking for a sponsor to retake the 7. I would be willing to pay for the TC study materials. It was easy to follow in an outline format with bullet points. Stc was like information overload without anything standing out.

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