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Want the best of great performance, yet still something that says I'm conservative?

A Ford Crown VIC police interceptor. Might have a few miles on it but kicks butt on the highway. Bonus feature is cage separating you from clients in back seat, and they can't get out unless you open it from the outside. The perfect broker car?

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Forgot to add that many come with a slick 2-tone paint job.

Beemer comes from the early days of motorcycle racing. BSA's bikes were nick named Beezers. So the BMW guys came up with Beemer for their rides.

I've never called my bikes "Beemer" Now, I have called them names like Winnebiko and Gertruda The Bug Slayer.

Speaking of pre enjoyed law enforcement rides, BMW police bikes are abundant in the used market. Something like a 2002 BMW r1150RTp - definately makes a statement. That is -  get the eff out of my way!

And, not to give up on a bad idea, did you know that a Mercury Grand Marquis painted in a striking two tone black and white looks just like a Crown Vic police interceptor? Ok, no big time ponies, but a lot nicer interior. It may even have a CD player! Whew, now we're livin'!

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Beemer comes from the early days of motorcycle racing. BSA's bikes were nick named Beezers. So the BMW guys came up with Beemer for their rides.

I've never called my bikes "Beemer" Now, I have called them names like Winnebiko and Gertruda The Bug Slayer.

Speaking of pre enjoyed law enforcement rides, BMW police bikes are abundant in the used market. Something like a 2002 BMW r1150RTp - definately makes a statement. That is -  get the eff out of my way!

And, not to give up on a bad idea, did you know that a Mercury Grand Marquis painted in a striking two tone black and white looks just like a Crown Vic police interceptor? Ok, no big time ponies, but a lot nicer interior. It may even have a CD player! Whew, now we're livin'!

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But I NEED to be able to squeal the tires when leaving a client appointment. 

The best tire melter owned in my adulthood was a 99 Mustang Cobra. Take it out of traction control mode and hang on! That was until i had the fix kit done. That took something off the torque. Still, I bought it new and kept it for 12,000 smokey burnout miles. Lots of noisy fun. Drove my wife nuts. She was happy when i went back to bikes to get my motive yayahs.

When i traded it the used car manager said "Mr, Bondguy, what happened to these rear tires?" I said i have no idea! We laughed!

So, maybe a used police package Crown Vic would be fun!  A wolf in sheep's clothing? Not to mention a lot cheaper to buy. Cnuk, good suggestion!

Still, for those looking for a fun car, a nineties vintage Cobra gets it done. Not a good client car.

If you want a good client car, but need the extra ponies, buy a Mercury Marauder.  It's a dressed up Crown Vic, with the same motor as the Cobra.  Only a car guy is going to realize it's more than your grandparent's sedan.  The only things that give it away are the chromed dual exhaust tips and the chromed rims.  And MARAUDER imprinted into the back bumper.  But I think they're all black and it's tough to see the imprint from anwhere but right behind the car. 

Plus you don't have to clean up the urine and puke stains from the back seat of the police cruiser.  Although a full shotgun rack in the front seat between you and your client on the way back from a presentation lunch might be a nice touch and help close a few cases. 

This might not be the best career if you have to ask what kind of car you need...  If you are a rookie at a wirehouse there is a great chance you will not make it to year 2 in this market.  

Hey bb5,

Screw you!  I've probably been in this industry longer than you.  I've worked as a wholesaler and dealt with FAs like you for the last four years, and I've realized I have more technical proficiency than 90% of FAs like you.  FYI, it doesn't matter what market you enter into the business in, all that matters is your work ethic.  I'm confident in my work ethic, and I'm confident that I'll make it past year two.  I hope to run into you one day at McDonald's when you're asking me if I want fries with that. 

I have been in the business for 14 years.  If you were a wholesaler then you either did not make it or were at a 2nd or 3rd tier firm.  Most if not all wholesalers go indy when they decide to start prsnl production.  Again I question if you can make it in this business if you have such thin skin and have to ask questions about what kind of car you should drive. You can have as you claim all the technical proficiency you want but how will you get in front of potential clients. 

I just don't understand why in the world anyone new to this business would start at a wirehouse considering the payout.  I love this business and have been extremely successful.  This is an amazing time to find new clients, I just have to question what a wirehouse has to offer that an top indy firm doesn't other than a 60% less payout...

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I have been in the business for 14 years.  If you were a wholesaler then you either did not make it or were at a 2nd or 3rd tier firm.  Most if not all wholesalers go indy when they decide to start prsnl production.  Again I question if you can make it in this business if you have such thin skin and have to ask questions about what kind of car you should drive. You can have as you claim all the technical proficiency you want but how will you get in front of potential clients. 

I just don't understand why in the world anyone new to this business would start at a wirehouse considering the payout.  I love this business and have been extremely successful.  This is an amazing time to find new clients, I just have to question what a wirehouse has to offer that an top indy firm doesn't other than a 60% less payout...

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Salary and training.

Indy firms won't take trainees. The indy firms that do, technically, aren't the trainee's employer. The trainee is working for the independant rep. That's where the paycheck comes from, not from the indy firm. That could work out for a new rep or it could be a disaster.

Not to get to far into this, i've been around for almost 30 years and I'm not with an indy firm. I really don't care if  all the  indies out there think i'm a chump for not going indy, Not all of us want to be one man bands.

This has been a fun thread. Let's not wreck it. So, does anyone else think the new Challenger is too heavy to be taken seriously as a muscle car?

bb5,

I've been at my current employer four years.  Am on the top producing team in the country.  You've got two years on me in the industry, so it's a wash.  I agree with BondGuy, I don't wanna wreck this thread so I'll move on.  To answer your question, BondGuy once again nailed the answer to your question - I used to think I wanted to go indy, but have no desire to put up will all the overhead and headaches that accompany being a business owner.  My father was an entrepreneur and I know all the headaches that accompany it.  I want to close business, make my money, and go home and forget about work.  I don't wanna worry about my employees, benefits, rent, salaries, etc., etc., etc.  The salary and training were also determining factors in my decision. 

BG - just like with all of the original muscle cars, it depends on which engine you put in it.  You put the little six banger in that thing and you'll be lucky to move it out of the driveway.  Throw the 425HP SRT8 hemi into it, and you've got more than enough ponies to call it a muscle car. 

However, the car still isn't going to be as nimble as the Mustang or the Camaro.  Even if those cars don't have the HP ratings, they're still going to win that battle because they aren't as heavy. 

Regardless, it's a mean looking car.  I'd happily drive one to work. 

fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff that

i dont want to blend in

you have one life

im getting a porsche 911 convertible. and thats only a pit stop between now and my red ferrari sypder f430

GHGR,

I think they are talking about cars that you can actually AFFORD to own.

AND, there's a difference between a muscle car and a roadster.  Attitude.

Personally, I like th new Camaros.

haha yeah... :(

im a young guy cant you tell

through my eyes the world is just one great big brassiere strap waiting to be snapped

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bb5,

I've been at my current employer four years.  Am on the top producing team in the country.  You've got two years on me in the industry, so it's a wash.  

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I think it's funny that you believe that 8 years "in the industry" and 4 more on a "team" of wholesalers is a wash with a guy in the trenches the last 14 years.   Laugh Out Loud funny.  I do wish you the best of luck, but I hope you have a reality check before you begin selling.

Good attitude!!! Who wants to blend in? Or, in the words we use all the time "It ain't no fun bein' normal !"

Space, you're right. The hemi is a fast machine and these cars are true muscle in that muscle cars were meant to be fast straight line machines. To get handling you had to move to the Z28 or Boss 302. Chevy and Ford  cut all fat out of these cars and keep the CI under 305 so they could go SCCA- Trans Am racing.

Interestingly, in my younger days i had a 67 Goat. One of my brothers had a 68 Mustang GT with a 390 and the other had a car he bought based on his favorite TV show, Hawaii Five-O. That car, a 2 dr 1968 Mercury Monterey also had a big block 390. When my brother, who had gone to the LM dealer to buy a big block Cougar, came home with grandmas's car we all laughed. We didn't laugh for long. That sucker was faster than every car in the group except a SS 454 Chevelle. And it gave that car a run! The Merc was stolen and used to lead the Maryland State Police on a high speed chase down the Baltimore Washington Parkway into DC. Later the head of the MD state police told my father that he couldn't believe it was an unmodifieded car. He said his "boys' couldn't keep up with it. Turned out the car, for some reason, had been equipped with a high performance Cleveland big block, not the normal docile Windsor 390. A true wolf in sheep's clothing that my brother used to win money everywhere he went. He bought and sold a lot of performance cars, including a big block Cougar,  but kept the big blue Merc until it was totaled when it was rear ended in 1982. I told him to pull that engine and have it bronzed!

Good God, why do some people have to be message board tough guys?  This is the internet, we can't have a pissing contest through our computers.  Grow up. 

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Good God, why do some people have to be message board tough guys?  This is the internet, we can't have a pissing contest through our computers.  Grow up. 

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That's what messege boards are for!!!!

Seriously, hang around. There is a lot of good here.

You're better to buy a beater and then get what you want year three.  This is a tough job the first couple of years - keep your baseline exps. low and you'll be better for it.