It is the most painful, pride swallowing event that a professional in any industry can experience ,besides an RN who has to clean sh*t out of bed pans

that is funny..

The RN also gets a pension…oh wait, Jones guys get LP, my bad

A person can bang out 15k to 20k cold calls a year to people they DON'T know and succeed.

Is that enough, 60-80 a day ?

[quote=Ron 14]

Is that enough, 60-80 a day ?

Unless you inherit a book, it is coldwalk or coldcall or fail. No one has THAT many friends.

Unless you inherit a book, it is coldwalk or coldcall or fail. No one has THAT many friends.

It can be done without coldcalling or coldwalking if one is good at getting referrals from non-clients.

[quote=Ron 14]It is the most painful, pride swallowing event that a professional in any industry can experience ,besides an RN who has to clean sh*t out of bed pans[/quote]

I didn’t mind knocking on doors…In my mind, I figured it gave people something to talk about at the dinner table other than work and the kids.

I found the Jones phone script to be unbearable! …especially with warm contacts.

[quote=Ron 14]It is the most painful, pride swallowing event that a professional in any industry can experience ,besides an RN who has to clean sh*t out of bed pans[/quote]

I didn’t mind knocking on doors…In my mind, I figured it gave people something to talk about at the dinner table other than work and the kids.

I found the Jones phone script to be unbearable! …especially with warm contacts.

[quote=Still@jones] [quote=Ron 14]It is the most painful, pride swallowing event that a professional in any industry can experience ,besides an RN who has to clean sh*t out of bed pans[/quote]

I didn’t mind knocking on doors…In my mind, I figured it gave people something to talk about at the dinner table other than work and the kids.

I found the Jones phone script to be unbearable! …especially with warm contacts.

You’re misunderstanding what it means when they say “following the recipe”. It really means “talk to as many people as you can every day”, not “be a Jones robot and use a Jones script verbatim with every contact.” The “recipe” is no different anywhere else. Maximize your number of contacts and you will be successful. The scripts you were taught were taught to you because you didn’t know any better. Nobody said “don’t change the script”. They basically said “if you don’t know WTF you are doing, here, do this.” Don’t blame Jones because you didn’t know what you are doing. They give you a few months to figure it out and some good guidance on how to go about it. I thought the “scripts” were BS too, but I realized after about a day that those were just guideposts for those that don’t have a clue.

[quote=B24]You’re misunderstanding what it means when they say “following the recipe”. It really means “talk to as many people as you can every day”, not “be a Jones robot and use a Jones script verbatim with every contact.” The “recipe” is no different anywhere else. Maximize your number of contacts and you will be successful. The scripts you were taught were taught to you because you didn’t know any better. Nobody said “don’t change the script”. They basically said “if you don’t know WTF you are doing, here, do this.” Don’t blame Jones because you didn’t know what you are doing. They give you a few months to figure it out and some good guidance on how to go about it. I thought the “scripts” were BS too, but I realized after about a day that those were just guideposts for those that don’t have a clue.[/quote]

I wish B24 was my field trainer…I was told, “don’t even think of changing one single word of the Jones script” (I’m not kidding…this is exactly what I was told)

I could add that the home office (working out of my home) and the isolation also hurt my motivation.

Still, until you man up and say you failed not Jones I don’t think you’ll ever have any credibility. There are countless people on this site, not to mention Jones, that would have given you everything they had if you had simply asked. Hell, Windy as much of a pain in the ass he is would have shared with you his script. Not Jones fault, yours. Oh, and that silly Jack P. close works but you have to trust in it and if you don’t do something else. Man up and take the blame.



I hope you are doing well at your new position and not afraid to waive a flag if you hit a road bump. People want to help you win.

That has been my only problem with Still. Dude, you just cannot take the blame for failing at Jones. I think I have heard EVERY excuse in the book from you. Jones script sucks, home office didn’t tell me what to do, my field trainer told me this, I hate doorknocking, the recipe doesn’t work, being isolated hindered my motivation. You never said, “I just couldn’t pull myself together and do what I had to do”. You know it just like everyone on this site, that is the only reason ANYONE fails in this business at any firm. They just can’t pull it together for whatever reason. It’s not anyones fault but your own. If you’d be a man and admit that instead of bashing Jones because you’re mad they fired you, when only a few months ago you were posting how successful you were gonna be at Jones and how much you loved the firm. Seriously, grow some balls and just say, “I didn’t do what I had to”.

Nothing against Jones, 1 guy isn’t going to make or break them, but they sure dropped the ball with Still@jones if you ask me.  You’ve got a guy out there busting his tail trying to make things happen putting together a pretty doggone good pipeline and before any of it comes to fruition you cut him loose because he had a bad couple month stretch.

Obviously the guy is not a loser or he wouldn’t have had 3 other job offers.  If he’s willing to take the time to post on a message board like this he clearly has an interest and passion for the business.  Had Jones given him a little more time to find his spot on the bus everyone probably would have won.

Dude, he didn’t even open an account. Even a sh*tty FA can open an account with his parents…Honestly…

[quote=Ronnie Dobbs]Dude, he didn’t even open an account. Even a sh*tty FA can open an account with his parents…Honestly…[/quote]

I thought he said he had 6 households averaging $50k?

[quote=Still@jones]





[quote=B24]You’re misunderstanding what it means when they say “following the recipe”. It really means “talk to as many people as you can every day”, not “be a Jones robot and use a Jones script verbatim with every contact.” The “recipe” is no different anywhere else. Maximize your number of contacts and you will be successful. The scripts you were taught were taught to you because you didn’t know any better. Nobody said “don’t change the script”. They basically said “if you don’t know WTF you are doing, here, do this.” Don’t blame Jones because you didn’t know what you are doing. They give you a few months to figure it out and some good guidance on how to go about it. I thought the “scripts” were BS too, but I realized after about a day that those were just guideposts for those that don’t have a clue.[/quote]I wish B24 was my field trainer…I was told, “don’t even think of changing one single word of the Jones script” (I’m not kidding…this is exactly what I was told) I could add that the home office and the isolation also hurt my motivation. [/quote]



This is just downright strange. Still, I honestly think this was just never the industry for you.