How much study for Series 7?
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[quote=stanwbrown]
That’s the source of your problem. You think the score on the Series 7 is somehow the equivalent of the entirety of Med School, when it’s more like a pop quiz in a first semester, first year class……<o:p></o:p>
[/quote]Not at all. What I see the Series 7 as being is an indication of one’s image of themself.
People who are proud of themselves set lofty goals–and among them is to try to get every question right on the Series 7.
Point me at a guy who scored 75% but only answered 75% of the questions
and I’ll cheer his accomplishment–but not getting a 76, 77, 78, 79,
80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97,
98, 99 or 100 shows that there is massive room for improvement.
Why are you cheering mediocrity? Could it be that you are the epitome of mediocrity yourself?
[quote=Put Trader] [quote=stanwbrown]
That's the source of your problem. You think the score on the Series 7 is somehow the equivalent of the entirety of Med School, when it's more like a pop quiz in a first semester, first year class…..
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Not at all. What I see the Series 7 as being is an indication of one's image of themself.
People who are proud of themselves set lofty goals--and among them is to try to get every question right on the Series 7.
Point me at a guy who scored 75% but only answered 75% of the questions and I'll cheer his accomplishment--but not getting a 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99 or 100 shows that there is massive room for improvement.
Why are you cheering mediocrity? Could it be that you are the epitome of mediocrity yourself?
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Your problem is the criteria you use as a yardstick is faulty. The Series 7 is one small step in the qualification process. You don’t have unlimited time in this process and being wise about where you use that time is critical. I’d rather see someone pass then exam and master the REAL requirements of the biz than see him bag a 100% on the 7 and tank in reality based training….<?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
Then again, you consider the smaller check and the lack of freedom to be "advancement" so yours is at least a consistent problem.
[quote=stanwbrown]
Your
problem is the criteria you use as a yardstick is faulty. The Series 7
is one small step in the qualification process. You don’t have
unlimited time in this process and being wise about where you use that
time is critical. I’d rather see someone pass then exam and master the
REAL requirements of the biz than see him bag a 100% on the 7 and tank
in reality based training….<o:p></o:p>
Why do you suggest that it is not possible to score well on the Series 7 AND also learn sales techniques, etc.?
Why are they mutually exclusive in your world.
Did your own father tell you to do only enough to get by? Is that advice you would give your own son or daughter?
[quote=Put Trader] [quote=stanwbrown]
Your problem is the criteria you use as a yardstick is faulty. The Series 7 is one small step in the qualification process. You don’t have unlimited time in this process and being wise about where you use that time is critical. I’d rather see someone pass then exam and master the REAL requirements of the biz than see him bag a 100% on the 7 and tank in reality based training….
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Why do you suggest that it is not possible to score well on the Series 7 AND also learn sales techniques, etc.?
Why are they mutually exclusive in your world.
Did your own father tell you to do only enough to get by? Is that advice you would give your own son or daughter?
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I don't believe he is saying that they are mutually exclusive. He is saying that they are separate and distinct entities. Please don't confuse the subtle, yet distinct, difference.
[quote=Dewey Cheatham][quote=Put Trader] [quote=stanwbrown]
Your problem is the criteria you use as a yardstick is faulty. The Series 7 is one small step in the qualification process. You don’t have unlimited time in this process and being wise about where you use that time is critical. I’d rather see someone pass then exam and master the REAL requirements of the biz than see him bag a 100% on the 7 and tank in reality based training….
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Why do you suggest that it is not possible to score well on the Series 7 AND also learn sales techniques, etc.?
Why are they mutually exclusive in your world.
Did your own father tell you to do only enough to get by? Is that advice you would give your own son or daughter?
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I don't believe he is saying that they are mutually exclusive. He is saying that they are separate and distinct entities. Please don't confuse the subtle, yet distinct, difference.
[/quote]Then why is it not possible to do two things at once?
My question was simple. Is it possible to work towards a Series 7 score in the 90 percentile while also learning about the business, how to prospect and so forth? Or are the two mutually exclusive?
[quote=Dewey Cheatham][quote=Put Trader] [quote=stanwbrown]
Your problem is the criteria you use as a yardstick is faulty. The Series 7 is one small step in the qualification process. You don’t have unlimited time in this process and being wise about where you use that time is critical. I’d rather see someone pass then exam and master the REAL requirements of the biz than see him bag a 100% on the 7 and tank in reality based training….
[/quote]
Why do you suggest that it is not possible to score well on the Series 7 AND also learn sales techniques, etc.?
Why are they mutually exclusive in your world.
Did your own father tell you to do only enough to get by? Is that advice you would give your own son or daughter?
[/quote]
I don't believe he is saying that they are mutually exclusive. He is saying that they are separate and distinct entities. Please don't confuse the subtle, yet distinct, difference.
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He can't help himself, he's not an honest , man...
[quote=Put Trader] [quote=Dewey Cheatham][quote=Put Trader] [quote=stanwbrown]
Your problem is the criteria you use as a yardstick is faulty. The Series 7 is one small step in the qualification process. You don’t have unlimited time in this process and being wise about where you use that time is critical. I’d rather see someone pass then exam and master the REAL requirements of the biz than see him bag a 100% on the 7 and tank in reality based training….
[/quote]
Why do you suggest that it is not possible to score well on the Series 7 AND also learn sales techniques, etc.?
Why are they mutually exclusive in your world.
Did your own father tell you to do only enough to get by? Is that advice you would give your own son or daughter?
[/quote]
I don't believe he is saying that they are mutually exclusive. He is saying that they are separate and distinct entities. Please don't confuse the subtle, yet distinct, difference.
[/quote]
Then why is it not possible to do two things at once?
My question was simple. Is it possible to work towards a Series 7 score in the 90 percentile while also learning about the business, how to prospect and so forth? Or are the two mutually exclusive?
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90? You're shooting for 90? Why that's barely and A where I come from. One point lower and you're a B. Why aim so low? What's wrong with you that you don't see 95+ as a minimum goal?
No wonder you ended up in management, you lacked the drive and dedication to earn the big check......
[quote=stanwbrown]
90? You’re shooting for 90? Why that’s barely
and A where I come from. One point lower and you’re a B. Why aim so
low? What’s wrong with you that you don’t see 95+ as a minimum goal?
No wonder you ended up in management, you lacked the drive and dedication to earn the big check......
[/quote]Nah, what I said was in the 90 percentile--where did I say 90? I think shooting for anything short of perfection is lowering your standards.
How about you Stan, do you think that it's admirable to try to be average?
[quote=Put Trader] [quote=stanwbrown]
90? You're shooting for 90? Why that's barely and A where I come from. One point lower and you're a B. Why aim so low? What's wrong with you that you don't see 95+ as a minimum goal?
No wonder you ended up in management, you lacked the drive and dedication to earn the big check......
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Nah, what I said was in the 90 percentile--where did I say 90? I think shooting for anything short of perfection is lowering your standards.
How about you Stan, do you think that it's admirable to try to be average?
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Put,
If the average score is 67 (or there abouts),as it was when I passed. Then that is 50th percentile. Most passing scores are in the 70s, probably another 35 percentile points. Anything in the 85+ range should be 90th percentile.
[quote=Dewey Cheatham]
Put,
If the average score is 67 (or there abouts),as it was when I passed. Then that is 50th percentile. Most passing scores are in the 70s, probably another 35 percentile points. Anything in the 85+ range should be 90th percentile.
[/quote]The average score on the Series 7 exam has NEVER been less than 70%, the average failing score is in the mid 60s and the average passing score is in the mid 70s.
Somebody the other day posted the information found on their score report and it said that the average score was 76, or something like that. That would tend to signal that both passing and failing scores are higher these days than they have been in the recent past.
As for your The hip bone's connected to the thigh bone nonsense--the 90th percentile means a score greater than 89% but less than 100%.
Series 7 scores are not normed, curved or adjusted in any way--other than the two extra weight questions.
[quote=Put Trader] [quote=Dewey Cheatham]
Put,
If the average score is 67 (or there abouts),as it was when I passed. Then that is 50th percentile. Most passing scores are in the 70s, probably another 35 percentile points. Anything in the 85+ range should be 90th percentile.
[/quote]
The average score on the Series 7 exam has NEVER been less than 70%, the average failing score is in the mid 60s and the average passing score is in the mid 70s.
Somebody the other day posted the information found on their score report and it said that the average score was 76, or something like that. That would tend to signal that both passing and failing scores are higher these days than they have been in the recent past.
As for your The hip bone's connected to the thigh bone nonsense--the 90th percentile means a score greater than 89% but less than 100%.
Series 7 scores are not normed, curved or adjusted in any way--other than the two extra weight questions.
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ROFLMAO, Put!
Did they teach Prob & Stat 101 at that junior college of yours? If so, what were you doing during class? Not getting 70% would be my bet.
[quote=Starka]
ROFLMAO, Put!
Did they teach Prob & Stat 101 at that junior college of yours? If so, what were you doing during class? Not getting 70% would be my bet.
[/quote]Are you telling me what I meant when I said the 90th percentile?
Tell me something Starka, if the day arrives when everybody gets less than half the questions on an exam correct are we going to declare that those who score close to 50% are in the 90th percentile?
Is it possible for those of your ilk to set the standards too low?
[quote=Starka]I’ll yield to your firm as the authority on low standards.[/quote]
Is that what passes as clever in Starkaland?
Face it Loser, you got tangled up in your own BS yet again, and been busted yet again.
Ya bore me, Put. I'm tired of slappin' you around. You may now slink away.
[quote=Starka]
Face it Loser, you got tangled up in your own BS yet again, and been busted yet again.
Ya bore me, Put. I'm tired of slappin' you around. You may now slink away.
[/quote]You're the one who is saying that less than 90% should be considered 90%--I'm just asking you if you have low standards like that in everything you do.
Do you approach life as a challenge where doing enough to get by is all the effort you should make?
It appears that way to this old pro--and I think it's pathetic.
[quote=Starka][quote=Put Trader] [quote=Dewey Cheatham]
Put,
If the average score is 67 (or there abouts),as it was when I passed. Then that is 50th percentile. Most passing scores are in the 70s, probably another 35 percentile points. Anything in the 85+ range should be 90th percentile.
[/quote]
The average score on the Series 7 exam has NEVER been less than 70%, the average failing score is in the mid 60s and the average passing score is in the mid 70s.
Somebody the other day posted the information found on their score report and it said that the average score was 76, or something like that. That would tend to signal that both passing and failing scores are higher these days than they have been in the recent past.
As for your The hip bone's connected to the thigh bone nonsense--the 90th percentile means a score greater than 89% but less than 100%.
Series 7 scores are not normed, curved or adjusted in any way--other than the two extra weight questions.
[/quote]
ROFLMAO, Put!
Did they teach Prob & Stat 101 at that junior college of yours? If so, what were you doing during class? Not getting 70% would be my bet.
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Put,
You are wrong. The average score is almost always a failing score. This is because the average score report takes into account ALL SCORES. Keep in mind that this includes retakers who often fail more than once. Thus, the average score (50th percentile) is almost always failing. Further, a substanially lower number of scores are passing scores. Additionally, these first time test takers typically only submit one score to pass. Usually the one time passers are in the mid 70s to mid 80s. The retakers that do eventually pass supply a passing score that usually creeps in at the 70-75 range. Consequently, you can discern that a disporportionately large number of series 7 exam scores are 85 or below. Most likely at least 90% of all scores are 85 or below!!! As such, the 90th PERCENTILE of test takers would score 85+.
Respectfully,
The Resident Mensan
(98th percentile or above on a standardized intelligence test)
Whatever.
The fact is that it is possible to answer 250 out of 250 questions
correctly, and having as your goal anything less than that is the sign
of somebody who is not goal oriented.
Those who set out to be average, or to do no more than “just enough” are not the types of people that folks such as me respect.
[quote=Put Trader] [quote=stanwbrown]
90? You're shooting for 90? Why that's barely and A where I come from. One point lower and you're a B. Why aim so low? What's wrong with you that you don't see 95+ as a minimum goal?
No wonder you ended up in management, you lacked the drive and dedication to earn the big check......
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Nah, what I said was in the 90 percentile--where did I say 90? I think shooting for anything short of perfection is lowering your standards.
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Which is it? Are you striving for 90 percentile or perfection?
I suspect you haven't a clue....