Sarah Palin ... our national joke
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Regardless of who would be “better”, Palin has been reduced to a national joke by the media. There is NO WAY she could beat anyone now. Right or wrong, that’s just how she is viewed publicly. The only thing Obama has going for him is that he is “stately” looking, and, unless you dissect what he actually says, does not come across as a knucklehead like Palin. For the record, I disagree with virtually ALL of his views, but Palin just can’t get it together on the national stage.
[quote=SometimesNowhere][quote=Spaceman Spiff]Just to be clear, I didn’t stay that I thought Palin was a viable candidate for president. This conversation was that she was our national joke. I disagreed and said that I believe she could beat Obama in an election today. There’s a difference between that and saying that I’d support her as a presidential candidate in 2012.
Why do you think Jesus wouldn't be a republican? I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just curious why you think that. [/quote] My misunderstanding. I disagree, but that is more of a statistical argument that isn't very interesting to me. As for Jesus not being a Republican, my interpretation of the Good Book is that he was far more willing to provide for the poor whether or not they "deserved it". You know, "grace is not earned, it's given", and so on and so forth. For Jesus need came before justice. Cost was never a consideration. That's the kind of thing that gets you conservatives to start barfing on each other about how wrong it is to give food and housing and health care and cell phones (which irritates me too, by the way) and cars and whatever to the poor since they haven't "earned it". Giving without regard to cost seems very Democrat to me. For the record, I don't think it's practical, which is why I frequently vote conservatively when it comes to my pocket book. It's for this reason that I don't think that specific religious principles should guide public policy. It doesn't work. I can appreciate people living their convictions, but they shouldn't try to legislate them. For that matter, I sometimes doubt that most Evangelicals are really followers of Jesus in the strict sense of the word, but I digress...[/quote] I agree that the poor should be taken care of. The Bible tells us that frequently. However, I think a distinction can be made between the poor and the lazy. Widows, orphans, people who are truly destitute, not by choice, are who we are supposed to be taking care of. There needs to be some system for that. I think where most conservatives get upset is when we see where that money actually goes. Why are there people in this country with arms, legs, fingers, and brains that work well enough to have sex, smoke dope, game the system, and the numerous other things to become nonproductive members of society who are getting checks from the federal government? Ever drive through a trailer park at 2:00 on a summer afternoon and see all the 30 - 50 year olds sitting on their redwood deck? Smoking a cigarette, talking on their cell phone, drinking a beer. How much you wanna bet that some of the money they used to buy those cancer sticks or that cell phone used to be in my paycheck? That's the kind of stuff that gets under my skin. And when the government says we should have stuff like universal healthcare, and that I should pay for it, I think that it's time to stop this train. For what it's worth, I don't think the parties, either of them, are true to their roots anymore. There's a reason you're hearing the term progressive so much these days. There's a reason you're hearing the word conservative. Those are the real parties in 2010.Palin has 0% chance of getting the 2012 nomination so I don't think we have to worry about that.
For what it’s worth, I don’t think the parties, either of them, are true to their roots anymore. There’s a reason you’re hearing the term progressive so much these days. There’s a reason you’re hearing the word conservative. Those are the real parties in 2010.
True 'dat
Independents are going to decide 2012.
Sarah Palin is a nice-looking lady with at least more than average intelligence who simply got in over her head. She was crucified repeatedly by a media dead set on electing the neophyte we have in the oval office now. I’m sorry…just because she can’t always collect her thoughts efficiently when the bright lights are trained on her and millions are watching doesn’t mean that she’s as stupid as national media would like us to believe. Yes, all this is my opinion, but I haven’t seen anything recently that’s shaken it in the least. Of the candidates we had to choose from, I don’t think we could have selected a less experienced, less qualified one than we did and yet we continue to crucify a former governor of Alaska. He may have his Harvard academics over Palin, but IMO, that’s all he has. At least she knows we only have 50 states.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws I suspect Evan Bayh is laying the groundwork to challenge Obama in the 2012 Democratic primary. He'd have to be an improvement over what we have now. Yep, that's my opinion too.I just have to laugh. The "hide the ball" operation of the DNC is without parallel. Here they have their rank and file dingbats all foaming at the mouth about Palin, a woman who has zero chance of ever occupying the Oval Office and all the while they're missing the fact that one of the world's biggest empty suits, Joe "I just flat can't tell the truth" Biden is just a heartbeat away from getting into the big chair.
Ol’ Hairplug’s latest, that Iraq would rank as one of the OBAMA administration’s greatest achievements has to rank among the all-time top five “WTF did you just say?????” lines ever uttered by a politician. If THAT nonsense doesn’t get your attention because you’re all crazed about non-entity Palin being a “national embarrassment” you’re just too stupid to sit at the grownup’s table.
[quote=Indyone]Sarah Palin is a nice-looking lady with at least more than average intelligence who simply got in over her head. She was crucified repeatedly by a media dead set on electing the neophyte we have in the oval office now. I’m sorry…just because she can’t always collect her thoughts efficiently when the bright lights are trained on her and millions are watching doesn’t mean that she’s as stupid as national media would like us to believe. Yes, all this is my opinion, but I haven’t seen anything recently that’s shaken it in the least. Of the candidates we had to choose from, I don’t think we could have selected a less experienced, less qualified one than we did and yet we continue to crucify a former governor of Alaska. He may have his Harvard academics over Palin, but IMO, that’s all he has. At least she knows we only have 50 states.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws I suspect Evan Bayh is laying the groundwork to challenge Obama in the 2012 Democratic primary. He'd have to be an improvement over what we have now. Yep, that's my opinion too.[/quote] There's no question the media lambasted Palin in the lead-up to the election; But let me ask you this: When you are campaigning, you make like 4-10 stops a day and say the same thing over and over again. Do you really believe Obama meant 57 states - or was he tired and meant 47? Do you really believe Palin reads lots of newspapers? I belive she doesn't read the news. I base my opinion on how quickly she responded and how her hands were clenched the moment she was asked the question. If she was drawing a blank, which I would have excused, she would have paused to think - instead of blurting out, "I've read most of them with a great appreciation for the media - I have a great variety of sources - Alaska is not a foreign country - blah, blah, blah." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRkWebP2Q0Y And finally, Obama didn't just go to Harvard; he went to Harvard Law. He's a Lawyer. Biden is a Lawyer. McCain has 21 years in the senate. All three of these guys have credentials to prove they are smart enough to be in the White House. I like when the president has a law degree, medical degree, engineering degree, a PhD or is a successful businessperson. It gives me confidence. Sarah Palin goes to college: She attended Hawaii Pacific University in the fall of 1982 and North Idaho College in the spring and fall of 1983. She attended the University of Idaho in the fall of 1984 and spring of 1985, and attended Mata***ka-Susitna College in the fall of 1985. She returned to the University of Idaho in the spring of 1986, receiving her bachelor's degree in communications with an emphasis in journalism from there in 1987. That folksy "soccer-mom" stuff might be nice for the PTA; but she's just not qualified to run the largest economy and largest military in the world. Period.If you’re going to use the “tired” excuse for Obama, you can do the same for Palin. My point is, eventually, left on camera long enough, all politicians say stupid things. I just find the level of attention Palin’s gaffes get from the media…interesting.
Obama's beer summit was an incredibly stupid. Calling a police officer stupid without knowing the whole story was stupid. Saying that Iran is a tiny country that doesn't pose a threat to us is stupid. Making fun of rural Pennsylvanians clinging to their guns and religion while thinking that no one was recording him was stupid. Saying that Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and that it must remain undivided was breathtakingly stupid...and quickly retracted. Arguing that passage of the stimulus bill was needed to reduce the unemployment rate to 8.5% was stupid. Trusting Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi to craft real healthcare reform...I could go on and on. His political appointees...Emanuel, Holder, Gibbs...not to mention the ones who were so bad they didn't even get through the confirmation process...make one mistake after another. Gibbs is just embarrassing to watch. Do I really think these people are all complete idiots? No...not really. they have all achieved national prominence that you or I never will and you generally don't get there by being an idiot unless you live in Hollywood or play pro basketball. However, under the microscope 24/7, you can find plenty of material to make any politician look stupid. Sarah Palin is not a Harvard law grad, but neither is she a national joke. Anyone who commands a six-figure speaking fee isn't as stupid as the media would like you to think.[quote=Indyone]If you’re going to use the “tired” excuse for Obama, you can do the same for Palin. My point is, eventually, left on camera long enough, all politicians say stupid things. I just find the level of attention Palin’s gaffes get from the media…interesting.
Obama’s beer summit was an incredibly stupid. Calling a police officer stupid without knowing the whole story was stupid. Saying that Iran is a tiny country that doesn’t pose a threat to us is stupid. Making fun of rural Pennsylvanians clinging to their guns and religion while thinking that no one was recording him was stupid. Saying that Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and that it must remain undivided was breathtakingly stupid…and quickly retracted. Arguing that passage of the stimulus bill was needed to reduce the unemployment rate to 8.5% was stupid. Trusting Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi to craft real healthcare reform…I could go on and on. His political appointees…Emanuel, Holder, Gibbs…not to mention the ones who were so bad they didn’t even get through the confirmation process…make one mistake after another. Gibbs is just embarrassing to watch.
Do I really think these people are all complete idiots? No…not really. they have all achieved national prominence that you or I never will and you generally don’t get there by being an idiot unless you live in Hollywood or play pro basketball. However, under the microscope 24/7, you can find plenty of material to make any politician look stupid. Sarah Palin is not a Harvard law grad, but neither is she a national joke. Anyone who commands a six-figure speaking fee isn’t as stupid as the media would like you to think.
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I do not disagree that Palin was a target. But, I’m not sure if it was a left-wing conspiracy or a drive for television ratings that drove it.
The Bush administration was very hostile to all the networks except Fox. Whenever they wanted a “news” story out, Fox got the story. News is a business. I believe the people running and working at the networks care more about their paychecks and their bonuses than any political affiliation. If someone else wanted to call it a conspiracy; I wouldn’t disagree.
You never hear about this on the news (gee, I wonder why?); but I believe this is why Obama had his first live interview with every network on one night.
He who controls the media; controls the world.
As for Palin, I think you are stretching saying her speaking fee represents her qualifications. She is a hot mom who became governor of a state which is 80% blue-collar male (including the largest number of overseas absentee ballots of any state). She became a VP candidate as a Hail Mary attempt at saving the McCain campaign. She is a celebrity; a celebrity among the religious nut-jobs of America.
If she were CEO of a company, would you invest in it?
Anyone who says yes, is lying.
[quote=Indyone]If you’re going to use the “tired” excuse for Obama, you can do the same for Palin. My point is, eventually, left on camera long enough, all politicians say stupid things. I just find the level of attention Palin’s gaffes get from the media…interesting.
Obama's beer summit was an incredibly stupid. Calling a police officer stupid without knowing the whole story was stupid. Saying that Iran is a tiny country that doesn't pose a threat to us is stupid. Making fun of rural Pennsylvanians clinging to their guns and religion while thinking that no one was recording him was stupid. Saying that Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and that it must remain undivided was breathtakingly stupid...and quickly retracted. Arguing that passage of the stimulus bill was needed to reduce the unemployment rate to 8.5% was stupid. Trusting Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi to craft real healthcare reform...I could go on and on. His political appointees...Emanuel, Holder, Gibbs...not to mention the ones who were so bad they didn't even get through the confirmation process...make one mistake after another. Gibbs is just embarrassing to watch. Do I really think these people are all complete idiots? No...not really. they have all achieved national prominence that you or I never will and you generally don't get there by being an idiot unless you live in Hollywood or play pro basketball. However, under the microscope 24/7, you can find plenty of material to make any politician look stupid. Sarah Palin is not a Harvard law grad, but neither is she a national joke. Anyone who commands a six-figure speaking fee isn't as stupid as the media would like you to think.[/quote] Indy, you strike me as a smart guy/gal and I usually find your posts to be fairly accurate, I couldn't disagree with you more here. I sincerely believe that if you look at Sarah Palin as objectively as you can you can come to no other conclusion than she is not a smart woman. There are plenty of people that are not particularly smart that make good money and work in prestigious careers. I have a doctor as a client. Very wealthy guy, also one of the dumbest people I know. Got through med school on book smarts and memorization. Socially awkward, has little people skills, doesn't have a ton of common sense. In fact, I doubt I would ever go to him for any medical procedure. Now I agree that if you have a camera on you consistently you are going say and do dumb things, and everyone in the political spotlight is guilty of that. I think the point is that the particular incident mentioned at the start of this thread is not the cause of that thinking, it is a symptom of her overally stupidity. I have seen her in several interviews, and I don't think I have ever seen her put together a lucid thought that she herself came up with. It is the same conservative talking points that are parrotted on Fox News and by Rush Limbaugh. You can disagree with things that Obama has done and thinks, but he seems tome to be a reasonably intelligent guy that knows what he thinks, why he thinks it, and can formulate an opinion on his own. I doubt that you can say the same for Palin.She is a celebrity; a celebrity among the religious nut-jobs of America.
You really believe that’s the only constituency she appeals to? Honestly? I don’t think the woman’s presidential timber, otoh, I suggest you get out of that bubble you appear to be living in and get some fresh air. There are two things Palin does extremely well and they compliment each other; she’s authentic (as in the textbook opposite of Joe “Can’t tell the truth” Biden) and she sends the drooling ideologues on the left into apoplexy. That reason alone is enough for me to want to see her remain on the national stage.
[quote=Lawrence]If she were CEO of a company, would you invest in it?
Anyone who says yes, is lying.
[/quote] Ask the same question about a company run by Obama/Biden, you'll get the same answer.
[quote=Lawrence] She is a celebrity; a celebrity among the religious nut-jobs of America.
You really believe that’s the only constituency she appeals to? Honestly? I don’t think the woman’s presidential timber, otoh, I suggest you get out of that bubble you appear to be living in and get some fresh air. There are two things Palin does extremely well and they compliment each other; she’s authentic (as in the textbook opposite of Joe “Can’t tell the truth” Biden) and she sends the drooling ideologues on the left into apoplexy. That reason alone is enough for me to want to see her remain on the national stage.
[quote=Lawrence]If she were CEO of a company, would you invest in it? Anyone who says yes, is lying. [/quote]Ask the same question about a company run by Obama/Biden, you’ll get the same answer.[/quote]
I’ll agree she is authentic. However, it is sad to say, I do not believe that is a characteristic of a winning politician. Great on the PTA; but not in the oval office. Look how Obama’s effort to be authentic is hurting him.
I belive Obama/Biden could run a successful company; Same goes for Bush43, Cheney, Clinton, Gore, Reagan, Bush41, I’ll stop there. (intentional omission in the middle, too.)
I believe the religious nut jobs are her base. But true, she is also still riding the wave of popularity that comes with being the national VP candidate. But, I believe that will wane before 2012 - and only the nut jobs will be left.
Probably the thing I respect the most about her is that she quit the governorship to cash out on her popularity. I thought that was smart.
btw: when did Biden become Joe “can’t tell the truth” Biden. I never heard anything…did he out a CIA agent and lie about it? Because, I consider that treason.
[quote=SometimesNowhere][quote=Indyone]If you’re going to use the “tired” excuse for Obama, you can do the same for Palin. My point is, eventually, left on camera long enough, all politicians say stupid things. I just find the level of attention Palin’s gaffes get from the media…interesting.
Obama's beer summit was an incredibly stupid. Calling a police officer stupid without knowing the whole story was stupid. Saying that Iran is a tiny country that doesn't pose a threat to us is stupid. Making fun of rural Pennsylvanians clinging to their guns and religion while thinking that no one was recording him was stupid. Saying that Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and that it must remain undivided was breathtakingly stupid...and quickly retracted. Arguing that passage of the stimulus bill was needed to reduce the unemployment rate to 8.5% was stupid. Trusting Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi to craft real healthcare reform...I could go on and on. His political appointees...Emanuel, Holder, Gibbs...not to mention the ones who were so bad they didn't even get through the confirmation process...make one mistake after another. Gibbs is just embarrassing to watch. Do I really think these people are all complete idiots? No...not really. they have all achieved national prominence that you or I never will and you generally don't get there by being an idiot unless you live in Hollywood or play pro basketball. However, under the microscope 24/7, you can find plenty of material to make any politician look stupid. Sarah Palin is not a Harvard law grad, but neither is she a national joke. Anyone who commands a six-figure speaking fee isn't as stupid as the media would like you to think.[/quote] Indy, you strike me as a smart guy/gal and I usually find your posts to be fairly accurate, I couldn't disagree with you more here. I sincerely believe that if you look at Sarah Palin as objectively as you can you can come to no other conclusion than she is not a smart woman. There are plenty of people that are not particularly smart that make good money and work in prestigious careers. I have a doctor as a client. Very wealthy guy, also one of the dumbest people I know. Got through med school on book smarts and memorization. Socially awkward, has little people skills, doesn't have a ton of common sense. In fact, I doubt I would ever go to him for any medical procedure. Now I agree that if you have a camera on you consistently you are going say and do dumb things, and everyone in the political spotlight is guilty of that. I think the point is that the particular incident mentioned at the start of this thread is not the cause of that thinking, it is a symptom of her overally stupidity. I have seen her in several interviews, and I don't think I have ever seen her put together a lucid thought that she herself came up with. It is the same conservative talking points that are parrotted on Fox News and by Rush Limbaugh. You can disagree with things that Obama has done and thinks, but he seems tome to be a reasonably intelligent guy that knows what he thinks, why he thinks it, and can formulate an opinion on his own. I doubt that you can say the same for Palin. [/quote] What ? She doesn't know what she thinks or why she thinks it ? She doesn't have opinions ? Whether someone has an IQ of 2 or 200 they know what they think. That is how words are produced. Everyone has opinions. Kind of like this site !!![quote=Lawrence] She is a celebrity; a celebrity among the religious nut-jobs of America.
You really believe that’s the only constituency she appeals to? Honestly? I don’t think the woman’s presidential timber, otoh, I suggest you get out of that bubble you appear to be living in and get some fresh air. There are two things Palin does extremely well and they compliment each other; she’s authentic (as in the textbook opposite of Joe “Can’t tell the truth” Biden) and she sends the drooling ideologues on the left into apoplexy. That reason alone is enough for me to want to see her remain on the national stage.
[quote=Lawrence]If she were CEO of a company, would you invest in it?
Anyone who says yes, is lying.
[/quote] Ask the same question about a company run by Obama/Biden, you'll get the same answer.[/quote] So, if after the analysis of the company (cash flow/growth potential/dividend growth history/industry leadership/valuation relative to peers, etc., etc. etc.) indicated you should buy a companies stock, you wouldn't buy it because Sarah Palin is the CEO???? You my friend have no clue. Take emotion out of investing, 101.
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I'll agree she is authentic. However, it is sad to say, I do not believe that is a characteristic of a winning politician. [/quote]
Do you realize how little sense that makes? Being authentic, that is being really what you appear to be is not only critical to politicians, it's critical to worthwhile human beings as a whole.
[/quote] Look how Obama's effort to be authentic is hurting him. [/quote]
Obama's problem is he ISN'T authentic, he's pretending to be something he isn't. For what he is, watch what he's said behind closed doors. Start with quotes that include words like "cling" and "bitter" when he describes those poor souls in flyover country.
[quote=Lawrence]I belive Obama/Biden could run a successful company; [/quote]
I see no evidence of that. In fact, neither of them have been in charge of anything of consequence at any point prior in their lives.
[quote=Lawrence]I believe the religious nut jobs are her base. [/quote]
I think that says more about you and the bubble you live in that anything else.
[quote=Lawrence] btw: when did Biden become Joe "can't tell the truth" Biden. I never heard anything... [/quote]
Sounds like you don't know much about Joey Plugs. The first known indications of his problems with the truth seem to have surfaced in law school when he was caught plagiarizing, but I suspect it really began long before that. Then there were the lies he told about his academic record, what degree he earned (he claimed two) where he graduated in his law school class (he claimed honors, he was in the bottom 15%). Then there’s the Neil Kennoch speech he stole, line for line. He and his sycophants have tried to play that off as simply failing, on occasion, to give credit to Kennoch, but the fact he had to change his family history to fit the speech. The list is long and I can continue if you like, even provide supporting documentation from mainstream media outlets, if you need it.
[quote=Lawrence] …did he out a CIA agent and lie about it? Because, I consider that treason.
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No, and neither did anyone else, no matter what you were told in echo chambers and fringe websites. Ask Richard Armitage.
[quote=Lawrence]I’ll agree she is authentic. However, it is sad to say, I do not believe that is a characteristic of a winning politician. [/quote]Do you realize how little sense that makes? Being authentic, that is being really what you appear to be is not only critical to politicians, it’s critical to worthwhile human beings as a whole.
Every word, every phrase, every intonation and every expression a politician makes is carefully crafted to appeal to a certain chunk of the mass audience. It’s acting for ugly people. The job of a successful politician is nothing but show business.
You can see this mastery in the Republican party, far more than the Democratic party, where they strive to build “clones” who recite the exact same message, using the exact same phrases, over and over again. You believe 50 people reciting the exact same lines is authentic?
[quote=Conrad Dobler] [quote=Lawrence]Look how Obama’s effort to be authentic is hurting him. [/quote] Obama’s problem is he ISN’T authentic, he’s pretending to be something he isn’t. For what he is, watch what he’s said behind closed doors. Start with quotes that include words like “cling” and “bitter” when he describes those poor souls in flyover country.[/quote]
You must live in NW Pennsylvania…sorry. I have not seen anything from Obama to show that he is any different than any other politician.
[quote=Conrad Dobler][quote=Lawrence]I belive Obama/Biden could run a successful company; [/quote]
I see no evidence of that. In fact, neither of them have been in charge of anything of consequence at any point prior in their lives.[/quote]
As I said previously, the job of a politician is mostly show business. So, one of the important aspect of being president is making quality choices for you cabinet. Jack Welch gave Obama high praise for his cabinet choices. I’m sure you disagree with this also.
[quote=Conrad Dobler][quote=Lawrence]I believe the religious nut jobs are her base. [/quote] I think that says more about you and the bubble you live in that anything else. [/quote]
This country is full of nut jobs who will vote for whoever promotes the most extreme religious-right agenda. Palin was their man in '08. They don’t care that she doesn’t understand the constitution and the logic behind Roe v. Wade, as long as she wants it overturned.
[quote=Conrad Dobler][quote=Lawrence] btw: when did Biden become Joe “can’t tell the truth” Biden. I never heard anything… [/quote]Sounds like you don’t know much about Joey Plugs. The first known indications of his problems with the truth seem to have surfaced in law school when he was caught plagiarizing, but I suspect it really began long before that. Then there were the lies he told about his academic record, what degree he earned (he claimed two) where he graduated in his law school class (he claimed honors, he was in the bottom 15%). Then there’s the Neil Kennoch speech he stole, line for line. He and his sycophants have tried to play that off as simply failing, on occasion, to give credit to Kennoch, but the fact he had to change his family history to fit the speech. The list is long and I can continue if you like, even provide supporting documentation from mainstream media outlets, if you need it.[/quote]I knew about his plagiarism. I thought you were talking about current events.
I wonder if that will hurt him in '16.
[quote=Conrad Dobler][quote=Lawrence] …did he out a CIA agent and lie about it? Because, I consider that treason. [/quote]No, and neither did anyone else, no matter what you were told in echo chambers and fringe websites. Ask Richard Armitage. [/quote]
If I understand the events correctly, they made outing a CIA agent legal just before they did it. Cheney, who claimed he wasn’t behind it, was. Bush, who vowed that no one on his staff was involved, “mis-stated”.
Like I said, the only reason they did not break the law is they changed the law right before they did it. Only Libby was convicted because he lied under oath.
I don’t even know why I am responding to you. Anyone who was not offended by this fiasco is hopelessly partisan.
…maybe it’s because I landed a big account today and I’m just coasting. Cha-Ching!
I’m satisfied that I’ll never convince many of you that Sarah Palin didn’t just step off the short bus, but for those of you willing to keep an open mind (I’m not asking anyone to vote her into the oval office), here’s some perspective from one of her former Alaskan constituents…
http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/an-alaskan-fisherman-talks-about-sarah-palin/blog-148707/ The real national jokes are the two boobs we actually elected.Nice Indyone.
She has a nice a$$ and she has accomplished some things. Actually, more things than Barack has accomplished being in the Senate and President.
Of course, it is Alaska. I certainly don’t think she’d be as bad a president as say, Calvin Coolidge, or Jimmy Carter.
For those of you who will move to a different country, remember, the country is not the President. Just like the people who said they were, “afraid” of Obama. And they would leave the country.
WTF? Afraid? Like he’s going to come to your neighborhood and eat your children.
Afraid? Of Sarah Palin? Like she’s going to come to your neighborhood and let you hit it.