I'm not worried, Bob, because we just need to burn it all down and start over.

I rode my bike to the big park was walking on the thin volcanic soils of a beautiful mountain top, watching the birds alight in the dead snags high atop the trees, hearing the crickets and reading the little signs about poison oak that are meant to scare the city people to stay on the trails.

But the really good walks are off the beaten path, and you get to hike them in beautiful athletic shoes made by little slave kids in China, and designed right here in America by liberals. And on the other coast, some fat a## in DC  is drinking Scotch with my money. Crazy world. But I  make a lot of money and live in a beautiful place, so I'm grateful.

There was a hilarious interview with Woody Allen in the WSJ today, Allen is ranting about the meaninglessness of life, and how at a young age he realized he couldn't be grateful. Pedophile jokes aside, it was a really funny schtik.

The world needs more humor, I love the Jews and the Italians and the rednecks, but you gotta love the rough hewn farmer politicians, too. 

Do you remember the first time you met a real financial planner ( a real plain looking guy who makes a lot of money and is real quiet) who wore cowboy boots. Maybe you're that guy.

The repubs don't need to fear the tea partiers, and America is finding out that they're not a lot dumber than they look. Most country people are familiar with teenage pregnancy and don't want the government telling them about abortions, or anything else.

Theory: inside most every liberal, there is a latent conservative dying to come out.  

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 All political talking points with lots of air underneath. Scary!

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I think you just accurately described 99% of the electorate as well as 99% of the politicians.

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I like Ilike.

Keeping it real:

 "Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem." - Ronald Reagan

At this point, I would support a trained monkey to sit in Congress and press the "no' button.

Just to show you what page i'm on - Pro life, anti illegal immigrant, anti gun control, pro gay marriage, anti war in iraq, pro war in afganistan, anti death penalty, anti tax increase, pro flag burning, pro quran burning, pro bible burning, anti book burning , anti book censorship, anti big government, anti war on drugs, anti discrimination,  anti Real ID, anti no child left behind, anti small town politics, anti police arrogance, pro education reform, pro tort reform, pro pay for play reform, pro english as our official language, anti press one for english, anti NJ driver's license test given in eleven languages, Anti Pat's Steaks, pro Geno's Steaks, pro Philly soft pretzels, pro Philly hoagies, pro NY bagels, pro Phillies, anti mets, anti Braves, anti Cowboys, anti Panthers, Pro Nittany Lions, Pro Eagles, pro Dolphins, pro Yankees 

Some of these beliefs aren't quite black and white:

On illegal immigration: The easy answer is come to our country legally. Simple enough? not really. My grand parents got off the boat at Ellis Island. being healthy, they were allowed in, from there becoming a citizen was almost automatic. Not so today. The immigration department is a huge bumble f**k government buracracy. getting in is as much ordeal as it is process. Many hard working immigrants fall out of the process, not through subversiveness, but because of government ineptitude. So, this is not a black and white issue for me. Still, those who come here illegally with no intention of becoming a citizen, out- for good!

Quran- bible - flag burning - all freedom of speech issues for me, even if I don't agree with those lighting the match.

Book burning - is censorship

Book Censorship - Why should my kids be limited to the narrow views of someone who has climbed all the way up to the lofty position of school librarian?

Real ID - We've all seen the old WW2 movies where the Nazis ask the person on the street  " Papers Pleaz?" Real ID is a modern version of the same thing. It's bad enough that Barnes and Noble knows exactly when i step into one of their stores via my membership rewards card, I don't need big brother tracking my every move.

Geno's has the better steaks and owner Joey Vento's speak english stand deserves support. it was widely misunderstood and misrepresented as racist by the media.

Yankees - only when they aren't playing the Phillies

Well then let's put those immigrants to work. America made a huge investment in free trade (exporting jobs to China and the world instead of imposing tariffs) - lifted every boat with capitalism, torn down those walls - protected the peace with her armies -  and right when we're ready to get down and compete - the socialists take over, stand up to the plate, and choke.

Geno and Joey are pissed, so am I.

But now we need tariffs, tax cuts, cut government spending, and reduced regulations. But we should change course a little and protect Joey's son's factory job, even if it means tempering the sacred "free trade" a little with tax cuts and more freedom here at home. You love freedom, don't you?

Are we going to start importing pretzels and mustard from China next?

I'm starting to think Obama's plan is to wait until pretzels and hot dogs are made in China, and then make sure everyone is pissed and scared enough to just want to join a union and shut down the borders completely. At that time, it'll be a socialist state, for sure. If you've never experienced living in that kind of economy ( where the retailers just scowl at you and act annoyed and the doctors are of average intelligence) - go check it out in Cuba.

But I'm not worried, just going to vote and send common people to Washington who will burn it all down and start over.

As much as I don't want to agree with him, BG is right on the TP dividing the Repubs.  I'm not an official TP member, but I do share a lot of their beliefs.  I like watching Glenn Beck, but I'm not going to take up a weekend driving to Washington, DC to attend his rally. 

I did a little light reading on Chrisine O'Donnell.  I wouldn't have voted for her.  Even though she says she stands for a lot of the same things I do, both of us being conservative Christians, the stories and reports just don't add up.  I hate it when I feel like I'm being lied to and that's what I got when I spent just 5 minutes reading about her.  I feel like I get lied to enough with our current politicians, I don't need to elect another one. 

I do agree with Beck when he says that we need people to run who, like George Washington, really didn't want to.  Business men who have built great, honest, profitable businesses from nothing but hard work and determination.  Clergy who have proven through years of service that they are upright and morale.  Farmers, trappers, entrepreneurs, etc.  Something other than an attorney or community organizer. 

The trouble is, that's not what the GOP wants.  They want someone who is just like them that they can get to vote the exact same way they do.  While I think it's a mistake to back Ms. O'Donnell, I also think it's a mistake for the GOP to completely turn their back on the TP candidates. 

This country is in a world of hurt.  We don't want the politicians we've got, but we don't really have a lot of great options stepping up to the plate either.  Here in MO we've got Carnahan running against Roy Blunt.  Carnahan's platform right now is:  I'm not Roy Blunt.  Well, I already know who Roy Blunt is and what he's done, tell me who you are and what you think you can do for me.  Tell me what you're going to do to my taxes, my health care, my business, my bank, my kids, and my church.  Hopefully the answer is as little as possible. 

I used to hate politics.  I still do, but for different reasons.

Anti burning it down. We have to be careful what we wish for.

Most of us are conflicted on our views. For example, conservatives and liberals alike don't like the export of our jobs overseas. Yet, we all buy products made overseas. Tenth, your bicycle, where was it made? Unless it is a Cannondale, older Trek,  independant frame builder it was made in asia. Even Rivendell, Bruce Gordon, and Waterford are using asian imported frames. And, if you were talking motorcycle then only Harleys and a few odd ball low market share brands are made in this country. Over at Walmart everything except the food comes from China. Those buying these products could pay up to buy American, but don't. The result is, to compete, business people are forced to go offshore. Yet, when the right wing conservative candidate comes to town preaching save american jobs these very same people eat it up. The fail to see that it is they, not the government, that is the problem. That is, if you can call the ability to buy less expensive goods a problem.

Double post - ops!!!

If History repeats, then Palin is our next President.

The sheer vitriol and foaming at the mouth of liberals, just at the sound/site/mention of her, is extremely amusing. 

In two more years, the American public will, just like last time, be grasping at straws, be willing to vote for "the other side". Just like last time.... Ah, the American voter...

By bberry:Sitting in ce meeting all day. space, even if repubs divided by tp, the party will betransformed by market forces.wait a little and you will see it play out. Carl rove is old school. This is not about defending the status quo, therefore the old rules do not apply. We are creating a new paradigm, since this is a creative process, it will increasingly engage the masses.

Have fun with that CE meeting. 

I agree that it will eventually play out.  I think it will play out on both sides of the aisle.  I don't beleive either party is completely thrilled with their players right now.  The question is will it play out in time for the Nov elections?  There needs to be a balancing of power somewhere.  The checks and balances system our founders envisioned isn't there right now.  If the GOP doesn't take over in either the House or the Senate, it's going to get uglier.  The only reason we're not seeing that political machine moving with the force it originally was is because they're all too busy running away from Obama trying to save their butts in the mid-terms. 

The GOP/TP has to get it figured out quickly.  BG is right that the Dems are just sitting back and chuckling at what's going on.  I've not studied enough history recently, so I'm not sure how long it took for parties like the Whigs to go out of favor and be replaced by the Republican party.  I'm sure it was decades.  Different times with different technology, but I'm not sure they can all agree on who to back before Nov.

Welcome back big. Dennis miller is a funny guy, I think he captures the humor of the dynamics a fickleness of the average person.

my .02.

This country voted for Hope and Change. The pendulum swung WAY far to the left. The majority of Americans are disappointed in the Hope/Change results thus far. We as a country are short sighted and have a short memory span topped with the need for instant gratification. Now two years later the pendulum's position has not helped the majority of those that voted for Hope/Change and so it is swinging back the other way. The issue is that voters don't want to admit they were wrong (not saying they were wrong) by voting for Obama but the country's ideology is changing the direction of the pendulum again and it has already began to move toward the Republicans aka "Bush" which is still too painful for many voters so the next closest thing is the Tea Party. The pendulum is swinging back and with another option besides "Bush" it is gaining momentum. If you look at the largest pool of voters in the US you will see that the Tea Party is playing strongly to them. Low to middle class Christian families with 2.3 kids etc. etc. I don't know how familiar you are with this demographic (aka Joe the Plumber) but I am and they are pissed. Like Obama did two years ago, the Tea Party could not have picked a better time to start their campaign. If things start improving after the November election and the Tea Party can in any way take credit for it, I say the likely hood of a Tea Party candidate in the Whitehouse is very possible.

Bg, china is the key.americans will unite in a rational response to the gutting of jobs. Government and big biz have collaborated to profit in the shortterm. The Tea Party is about small business people and the common mann who does not need to be protected by corrupt, Harvard trained thinkers and politicians.

Spiff, I agree, potential for nothaving balance of power in Nov is scary. Tea party is a risk, but whoevergets in office has to come up with solutions, and Americans are not going to likethem.two more years of dems could be no losefor the Tea Party, time to gain and grow forslashand burn time.

Spiff, I agree, potential for nothaving balance of power in Nov is scary. Tea party is a risk, but whoevergets in office has to come up with solutions, and Americans are not going to likethem.two more years of dems could be no losefor the Tea Party, time to gain and grow forslashand burn time.

Not to preach but... Psalms 146 v 3 comes to mind.  It says not to put your trust in Princes (Nobles or powerful people... depending on your translation). I will not put my faith in any of these. I am conservative and I try to look for the best in people. However, I don't think there is one politician who would not sell out his number one advocate for the right price. A person does what he/ she can to get elected. Then the first day on the job... their number one motive is to be re-elected. It is not a very good system. There is no good system.