Favre?
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Look, I don’t think anyone is stupid enough to say that Favre isn’t a hall of fame QB. What annoys many of us is how he “retires” each year so he can skip training camp and how petty he acts about Green Bay management. The first chance he got, he makes a beeline for Minnesota to give Green Bay the finger.
This annual retirement talk gets real old. If Favre had shown more class about what happenend in Green Bay and had been more honest about his training camp avoidance routine, I wouldn't be here hatin' on him. As it stands, he's about three notches above Barry Bonds on my respect-o-meter.I’m not even sure I can blame Favre for all the retire/not retire nonsense. I think this goes back to the old theory that we talked about a while back with SportsCenter being the root of the problem. I think we can all agree that if there is a sniff of a hot sports story out there, SportsCenter will hop all over it and pound it into the ground like there’s no tomorrow. “Vick’s in training camp with the Eagles?? Lets put 15 cameras outside his hotel, locker room and cafeteria at ALL TIMES, and have ‘Breaking News’ stories show up every 10 minutes, even if its only to say he’s excited about playing again!” “Florida State’s administration is unhappy with Bobby Bowden’s recent performance? Lets beat this story into the ground until America wishes college football would just go away!” “Favre’s getting “the itch” again? Lets send John Clayton down to Kiln, Mississippi so we can be updated every time Favre takes a dump. If it stinks, he’s seriously wanting to come back. If it has no smell, he’s enjoying retirement.”
SportsCenter is taking away all the imagination from fans, and I think making sports and the athletes way too real for people. Back in the day there were teenagers and even young adults that idolized guys like Bradshaw and Montana and Payton, and part of the reason is because they were held up on a pedestal and pro sports was on a different level than the rest of civilization. Now we can go online and read twitter posts by some 4th string linebacker for the Redskins and realize that pro athletes can't even spell. ESPN is killing sports.[quote=Indyone]Look, I don’t think anyone is stupid enough to say that Favre isn’t a hall of fame QB. What annoys many of us is how he “retires” each year so he can skip training camp and how petty he acts about Green Bay management. The first chance he got, he makes a beeline for Minnesota to give Green Bay the finger.
This annual retirement talk gets real old. If Favre had shown more class about what happenend in Green Bay and had been more honest about his training camp avoidance routine, I wouldn't be here hatin' on him. As it stands, he's about three notches above Barry Bonds on my respect-o-meter.[/quote] Bingo. He was a great QB, top 3 of all time. I said that from the start, but god forbid you criticize Jesus in cleats about his last few off season acts.[quote=3rdyrp2] I’m not even sure I can blame Favre for all the retire/not retire nonsense. I think this goes back to the old theory that we talked about a while back with SportsCenter being the root of the problem. I think we can all agree that if there is a sniff of a hot sports story out there, SportsCenter will hop all over it and pound it into the ground like there’s no tomorrow. “Vick’s in training camp with the Eagles?? Lets put 15 cameras outside his hotel, locker room and cafeteria at ALL TIMES, and have ‘Breaking News’ stories show up every 10 minutes, even if its only to say he’s excited about playing again!” “Florida State’s administration is unhappy with Bobby Bowden’s recent performance? Lets beat this story into the ground until America wishes college football would just go away!” “Favre’s getting “the itch” again? Lets send John Clayton down to Kiln, Mississippi so we can be updated every time Favre takes a dump. If it stinks, he’s seriously wanting to come back. If it has no smell, he’s enjoying retirement.”
SportsCenter is taking away all the imagination from fans, and I think making sports and the athletes way too real for people. Back in the day there were teenagers and even young adults that idolized guys like Bradshaw and Montana and Payton, and part of the reason is because they were held up on a pedestal and pro sports was on a different level than the rest of civilization. Now we can go online and read twitter posts by some 4th string linebacker for the Redskins and realize that pro athletes can’t even spell. ESPN is killing sports.[/quote]
Completely agree…(Though did we think football players were really that smart to begin with). I hate twitter, but if it gets rid of the media then I am all for it.
[quote=Indyone] Look, I don’t think anyone is stupid enough to say that Favre isn’t a hall of fame QB. What annoys many of us is how he “retires” each year so he can skip training camp and how petty he acts about Green Bay management. The first chance he got, he makes a beeline for Minnesota to give Green Bay the finger.
This annual retirement talk gets real old. If Favre had shown more class about what happenend in Green Bay and had been more honest about his training camp avoidance routine, I wouldn’t be here hatin’ on him. As it stands, he’s about three notches above Barry Bonds on my respect-o-meter.[/quote]
See I don’t care how good of person they are I watch for the athletic performance(how much has been documented on Ted Williams(racist, jerkoff)) I think Barry Bonds is one of the top players in baseball history. Sure he probably took steroids, but then so did half the people he was playing against(even battlefield), and I think a lot of teams could have signed him(AL DH) and do a lot better than they did or are.
Chief - That is absolutely the way I should be looking at it. For some reason I get easily annoyed at off the field stuff when in reality it is irrelevant. Sports is entertainment and I should leave it there, but I can’t.
Just found this gem:
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/espn_completely_misses_brett_favreHey Ron Just got done watching Favre pull off another 4th quarter victory, the Packers look like crap beating the Lions and Sanchez throw 6 picks against a poor Bills team. I think you owe Brett Favre a big ol appology!Any starting college QB could have done what Favre has done to this point. Anyone who thinks Favre is a top 15 QB either hasnt watched a game or doesn’t know anything about football. Sure he is one of the greatest ever, but that doesn’t mean he is good now. And if you think the Packers and Jets aren’t better off WITHOUT him you are an idiot.
No I don’t. Stay tuned.
Let me guess Ron: The Vikings could win every game from here on out and Favre could complete every pass with no interceptions and you would still say he's the biggest stroke in history and not Hall-of-Fame worthy.
Morean, let me guess you can’t read. Look at the thread and others. I said he is one of the 3 best of all time. So was Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens and Michael Jordan. And each and every one of them are total strokes. All right at the top of the list in the history of sports. Egomaniacs who think they call the shots and try to burn everyone who doesn’t lick their sack.
Ron, your first post was calling him out as being the biggest stroke in sports history.
I am reading from your posts. I just can’t believe he keeps winning games and you keep bashing him.
I don’t watch sports. I could care less. If they bother you so much, don’t watch dude.
Also, I can’t believe you are that sensitive about this thread. And after I wrote on another thread about you are thick-skinned and able to poke fun at yourself.
Well the reason I am annoyed is because you are the 3rd or 4th dude to completely miss my point and then pile on after a good game that Favre wins. My bottom line is the Vikings were a playoff team last year and they were going to be this year. The move for the Vikings was a good one as it upgraded that position. He is a sure fire Hall of Famer and a top 3 QB of all time.
He is a stroke because of what he did in the off seasons to the Packers for a few years and the Jets and Vikings this year. He is a stroke for not wanting to practice or put in the time that each and every one of his teammates has to put in. Just as Roger Clemens was a stroke for not wanting to go to spring training or travel to road games that he was pitching in. Just like MJ was a stroke for flip flopping on retirement. Also the Jets were 7-3 last year and the AFC favorite through 11 weeks last year. So stay tuned for all of you who think Favre is the Favre of 10 years ago.But the Jets had bad coaching(look how good mangini is this year)… Also didn’t you say the jets were better without him(8 ints in last 2 games). Another big difference is that AP demands more respect then Thomas Jones. Also the recievers are better(Rice 6’4" and berrian, plus the TE)
Jets weren't a playoff team with Favre. They have a new coach and they are rebuilding so yes, they are better off without him by developing a young QB and moving forward, just like the Packers. Yeah, no sh*t AP demands more respect than Jones. I am not saying last years Jets were better than this years Vikings. Vikings D is awesome and they have many more weapons and they were a playoff team without Favre. Bringing in Favre was the right move for the Vikings because it upgraded the position. That doesn't mean he isn't a douche for his flip flopping and it doesn't mean that he is going to keep up this pace.But the Jets had bad coaching(look how good mangini is this year)… Also didn’t you say the jets were better without him(8 ints in last 2 games). Another big difference is that AP demands more respect then Thomas Jones. Also the recievers are better(Rice 6’4" and berrian, plus the TE)
I would have done exactly what Cutler did if a new boss came in and tried shipping me out of town.
I would never hold multiple teams hostage to my ego because I didn't want to practice and improve the team.[quote=Ron 14]
I would have done exactly what Cutler did if a new boss came in and tried shipping me out of town.
I would never hold multiple teams hostage to my ego because I didn't want to practice and improve the team. [/quote] I would hope you know that your seat is available at any time if your boss feels he can upgrade. This is the way of life. Orton is outplaying Cutler this year, I wonder if that's because of the system, which if you watch Denver games (they are the "local" team in my market) you would know as good as Cutler was, he was not suited for the new system. I didn't like Favre coming in late either, but he is a better QB today than Cutler is. My opinion may change if he has another late season meltdown, but for now he is the difference between a 2 1/2 game division lead and 3rd place in the division with a 3-3 record.Favre and Orton are better QB’s today than Cutler ? That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Football games consist of 22 players on the field at one time. To downgrade a QB because his surrounding cast isn’t as good is just meathead thinking. If you asked every GM in the league who they would want out of those 3 to start a team, 75% would say Cutler.