Somali Pirates
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Actually, I just rethought this whole thing. Does anybody know a list broker for Somalia?
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Why don't you just fucking shut up. Everything is Bush's fault? Even pirates in Somalia. I think a lack of focus on Somalia goes back at least as far as Clinton. But we have not seen any action to this point to stop what is going on today. Perhaps if we weren't so busy in Iraq, we could be ready to deal with other "hot spots" that are arising today. I bet you blame your short erections and lack of nooky on Bush too. Thanks for the concern, but no problem in either area.BTW: Bin Laden is dead. Got a body? Is Al Queda still active?[/quote]
The pirates are heros in their country. Boomtowns are rising from the dust over there. Expensive cars, slow whiskey, and fast women are the order of the day. The more they steal the better equipped they become. At some point the Islamic fundies running other parts of the country will tire of not getting a taste and that will end it. It being either piracy or funamental Islamacism in Somolia. Who will win? Right now their ecomomy is measured by GDP- Gross Domestic Piracy. Living in a 700BC shithole or driving a new Benz? Hmm? Maybe these pirates are on to something?
I wonder if these pirates are selling limited partnerships... Could be a good non-correlating asset.The pirates are heros in their country. Boomtowns are rising from the dust over there. Expensive cars, slow whiskey, and fast women are the order of the day. The more they steal the better equipped they become. At some point the Islamic fundies running other parts of the country will tire of not getting a taste and that will end it. It being either piracy or funamental Islamacism in Somolia. Who will win? Right now their ecomomy is measured by GDP- Gross Domestic Piracy. Living in a 700BC shithole or driving a new Benz? Hmm? Maybe these pirates are on to something?
This is no different than saying "if you think killing your neighbor is wrong, don't kill yours, but of course if you want to murder your neighbor, that's your decision." It has nothing to do with religion, it's about morals. It always amazes me that the same people who cry about making Terrorist prisoners wear embarrassing clothing, argue that it's okay to take a growing fetus out of a woman's body and kill it.Abortion is not a religious issue. It is a human rights issue and women should have the right to make a choice. If you think abortion is wrong, then don’t have one.
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It always amazes me that the same people who cry about making Terrorist prisoners wear embarrassing clothing, argue that it's okay to take a growing fetus out of a woman's body and kill it. [/quote] I think orange makes a fine fashion statement. On the other hand there's that whole torture thing that I (and most of the world doesn't agree with). We should be a moral beacon to the world and torture of potential terrorists is something I question. I don't have the solution, but that can't be the best way to extract information. It always amazes me that those that think that "it's not okay to take a fetus out of a woman's body and kill it" are okay with launching a unilateral invasion of a sovereign country and kill thousands of innocent civilians over WMD's that did not exist and hang a dictator that we put in power. In what areas do you support right to life? When it concerns abortion or on a more global basis? WWJB.So I dunno about everyone else, but i read the forums for advice, good ideas, and funny stories, NOT to debate right to life issues. Keep it to yourselves or message each other.
Hey if you don’t like what other people are participating in, don’t do it!
oh the irony.
How much "advice, good ideas, and funny stories" are you going to get in a chat called "Somali Pirates"? Arghhh...you wanna be a pirate matee??? Advice - buy a parrot Good ideas - A good speed boat with some maching guns are necessary Funny stories - did you hear the one about the pirate and the horse? the pirate looked at the horse with concern and asked...arghhh - why the long face?So I dunno about everyone else, but i read the forums for advice, good ideas, and funny stories, NOT to debate right to life issues. Keep it to yourselves or message each other.
OK, now that’s funny right there, I don’t care who you are.
Umm...what thousands of innocent civilians are you talking about? You make it sound like the Army runs around just shooting at anything that moves. Ideally I would believe that all life is sacred. Ideally, I would like God to be the one who destroys a place like Somalia and rebuilds it. Ideally, nobody ever has to die because of war. However, life isn't fair. And we don't live in an ideal world.[quote=CreditOnion]
It always amazes me that those that think that "it's not okay to take a fetus out of a woman's body and kill it" are okay with launching a unilateral invasion of a sovereign country and kill thousands of innocent civilians over WMD's that did not exist and hang a dictator that we put in power.In what areas do you support right to life? When it concerns abortion or on a more global basis? WWJB.[/quote]
I really hate it when people use that appallingly lame war analogy.
The first and most important problem is the moral difference in intent. Those who kill innocent, unborn babies clearly do so intentionally. That is the exact result they intend and seek. This is the moral opposite of the intentions of those soldiers whose actions sometimes have the unintended and undesired consequence of killing innocent Iraqi civilians.
Second is the sheer difference in magnitude between the two. According to the notoriously biased group Iraqi Body Count, as many as 97,239 civilian deaths have resulted from the invasion and occupation, including those caused not simply by coalition military action, but also those caused directly by the Iraqi insurgency, and those resulting from "excess crime" (the Iraqi Body Count project claims that the Occupying Authority is responsible to prevent these deaths under international law). Nor do they even attempt to draw any distinction between true innocent civilians and the insurgent combatants, most of whom intentionally and conveniently wear no uniforms. Needless to say the actual number of casualties is unknown and highly disputed.
But lets not quibble. EVEN IF we accept this obviously inflated number AND attribute all these casualties to the evil Americans, and EVEN IF we convince ourselves that these evil soldiers INTENDED to kill all those Iraqis irrespective of whether or not they were combatants or innocents, we are left with this critical mathematical fact: we intentionally kill more unborn babies every 25 days than even this inflated estimate of total innocent Iraqi casualties in the more than 5 years since the Iraqi invasion.
Finally, and just for the record since you seem ignorant of this minor detail, Saddam Hussein was only captured by our brave troops. He was tried, sentenced and executed entirely by his fellow Iraqis, not the US.
They have ships at their "pirate stronghold" I cant believe the military of any country doesn't go to the "stronghold" and carpet bomb the place with napalm.
Idea: Nancy Pelosi, Diane Feinstein and Hillary are cruising off the coast of Somalia in a blinged out freighter. They’re wearing nothing but thong bottoms and sensible shoes, and are discussing universal health care, abortion funding and gun control in their gentle, soothing tones. Pirates come over the rails, are struck blind by the sight, deaf by the noise, they drop their AKs and RPGs on the deck, and promise to cut their own nuts off if the ladies will just lead them back to the rail and let them jump.
Lots of problems solved. I'm in for 50 bucks to buy the freighter, who else?[quote=2wheeledbeemer]Idea: Nancy Pelosi, Diane Feinstein and Hillary are cruising off the coast of Somalia in a blinged out freighter. They’re wearing nothing but thong bottoms and sensible shoes, and are discussing universal health care, abortion funding and gun control in their gentle, soothing tones. Pirates come over the rails, are struck blind by the sight, deaf by the noise, they drop their AKs and RPGs on the deck, and promise to cut their own nuts off if the ladies will just lead them back to the rail and let them jump.
Lots of problems solved. I'm in for 50 bucks to buy the freighter, who else?[/quote] I'll put in $100 if you add Tyra Banks to the group.Ron Paul wants to hire privateers - I figure guys who don’t make it in the business can go do that. Got to be some good money in that!
As for the wrong war argument - People can hem and haw about the Iraq war being the wrong war. There were no weapons of mass destruction… Sadaam wasn’t hurting anybody… blah, blah, blah.
Two weeks into being in country, we found 16,000 mortar shells with mustard gas. Spent the night guarding it, some guys in civvies showed up the next day, never heard anything else about it.
I spent thirteen months in that hot ass country. In addition to running knock and talk, cordon and search missions, mountain patrols, I was tasked with requisitioning money to rebuild parts of the country. My unit alone acquired $110 million to build wells, remove UXO and build schools.
So much good has been and is being done over there.
Someone said the purpose of the military is to break things and kill people. I don’t agree. The purpose of the INFANTRY is to close with and destroy the enemy by means of fire and maneuverability. Their MAIN purpose is to hold territory. And that is what they are doing.
The majority of the people we arrested crossing the border to fight Americans were from various terrorist organizations. And generally not Iraqi.
You may disagree with how it started, but Iraq was becoming the battleground for battling terror. I think it’s a great idea, but there was no way Bush could have said, “Hey ya’ll, we’re going to invade a sovereign country, and make it so that the people who are trained to fight terrorists actually get to fight the terrorists”.
My buddies are going back over in four days. If something happens to any one of them, it will break my heart. But this is what they are trained for, and what they signed up for. I would much rather our soldiers make the sacrifice than my nine-year old daughter getting blown up in a school.