For people like champ who have short memories or perhaps were still in elementry school, here is some historical perspective on the likes of Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson.  The pots are calling the kettle black, and NO that isn't a racist remark. Google that one too.

http://www.nationalreview.com/nr_comment/nr_comment090701.sh tml

http://www.opinionjournal.com/taste/?id=110003919  Where in Jessie shakes down the NASCAR "Crackers"

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50777

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/arti cles/2003/11/09/the_race_baiter_in_the_campaign/

Of course none of this excuses Imus. But come on people, we need a little perspective.  Oh and by the way, that white guilt race card doesn't work on me.  When blacks were slaves in this country, one set of my ancestors were working in coal mines in Wales and being kicked off of their land by the British in Ireland and forced to work as indentured servants (read that as white slaves).  The other set were Quakers or fought on the side of the north to free the slaves.  I'm not sure what the Basque line was doing at the time, but I bet you it wasn't owning slaves.  I have no white guilt about slavery.

It's time that people quit listening to the victim and race mongers like Sharpton and Jackson and started taking responsibility for their own lives.  Whining about things that happened hundreds of years ago doesn't help to change things now.  If you get all fluffy about some old white radio guy calling black women "Ho's", then I suggest you do something about your own people who perpetuate the term and worse in popular music.

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[quote=champ]Babbling Looney, Imus called Al Sharpton not the other way around.  It was mediamatters.com & the NABJ that initially pressed the case for Imus to be fired and the president of NBC News said he was most affected by the opinions of NBC employees like Al Roker and Keith Olberman.  Once again, never let the facts get in the way of a good mad on.   [/quote]

I don't like what Imus had to say about the girls BB team and agree that he is a repugnant idiot and I have never understood the appeal of his scthick.  However, the likes of Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton who are professional victims and personally profit from creating racial divisions and making mountains out of molehills. 

They take every opportunity to make things worse instead of better.  Al Sharpton has a history of rushing to any opportunity, like the Twana Brawley case, to inflame racial tensions and make himself the center of the story .  Jessie Jackson is a professional shake down artist who lines his own pockets and that of his family by throwing down the race card and whipping himself and others into a froth of indignation.  Remember the GE shakedown by Jackson?  Neither one of these gentlemen (and I use the term loosely) have any standing to discuss other peoples perceived racism, when they have proved themselves to be racists themselves. 

Hymietown anyone? Duke LaCross players  "Jesse Jackson, who, in an act of sympathy, publicly condemned the athletes and offered a scholarship to the woman as a show of support for her victicrat status."  "    Al and Jessie were quick to rush to North Carolina to hold protests and vilify the LaCrosse players, ruin their reputations, have them kicked out of school, lose their jobs.....all the time they have been proven innocent.   They did this on purpose and with malice, yet they refuse to apologize as they demanded of Imus and has he has done. 

Only white people have to apologize and grovel for offensive (and I agree it was offensive) remarks, while racists like Sharpton and Jackson can organize protests, boycotts, ruin and put the screws to corporate America to advance their own personal agendas.

Reverse racism and hypocrisy rule the day along with political correctness gone amok.

Keith Olberman!!  Puleeze.  There's some one with no agenda.

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You hit the nail on the head with these comments.  Very true.

Unfortunately, the hiphop is about the money, too...so the consumers of these cd's and music videos apparently like this.  Seems the parents would boycott this stuff off the market; of course, some of the music is censored--why not the videos that go with them.  Apparently if movies with flesh can be aired on tv; so can the videos.

At least the media is pointing out the double standard.  You won't see any more whitees making these errors in judgment again - or will be few and far between.  It's ok for the blacks to call themselves the "n" word and they use this term in their songs; black comedians use this term in their jokes; but honkey, white-trash, don't be singing along with the song and uttering those words yourself ...or you might find yourself out of a job.

Bill Cosby seems to be the voice of reasoning in the wilderness: when will the blacks pay attention and listen to him.

The both of you are repugnant!

You need to find your internal "Jimminy Cricket" and dial them up severalteen notches!

Beg your pardon!!!!  Don't put me in this category.  There is nothing wrong with what I've said on this thread:  so don't label me.

To recap what I said:

Yes, there is a double standard.  News reports are now pointing this out.

Black people can refer to themselves in denegrading terms but no one says anything to them (this is ok to do). 

If the girls didn't accept his apology, they should forgive him and accept it.

If someone is "scarred for live" over words, "nappy headed ho" then they have far worse problems and need therapy.

Blacks have made a lot of contributions to this country and they weren't illegal immigrants: their own sold them to whites to transport to this country to be used as slaves.

I agree with Babs about Al Sharpton and Rev Jesse Jackson: they have a double standard, too.

My jimmy cricket (conscience) is in good working order...thank you very much!

If babs had read my post you would've read that I said that I'm no fan of Al & Jesse and that I stated that Al & Jesse hold no sway in the Black community.  Can you name me the last boycott either of them spearheaded that actually hurt coprate profits?  The existence of Al & Jesse is the fault of white people and the media.  If some of you took the time to get to know more Black people on an intimate level you would learn that very few people care what either of them think.  It's up to you to rabble rouse and ask your media outlets for more diversity in who you hear from.  Since Blacks don't own any media outlets, except for Radio One, we can't dictate who is heard.  You should write a letter to someone, don't complain to me that your media outlets are too lazy to find other sources.  Are you too lazy to write a letter or do you not have time to get to know people who are different from you.

But at the same time, why do you allow Imus to play you like a piano?  He called Al.  Imus is not stupid.  He knew that if he got Al involved some people would automatically pull for him.  Imus went 38 years without having Al Sharpton on his show, but now he sees value in talking to Al Sharpton, please don't insult my intelligence.     

If everyone on every blog that I've seen in the last week took one minute to write their local media outlets and ask for some diversity in representation it just might happen and you'd never have to see them again. 

And finally, both Al & Jesse have been very vocal in speaking out against the language of commercial hip hop.  Essence magazine has been on the leading edge and some historically black colleges have cancelled appearances by rappers whom they felt were offensive.  It's not anyone's fault, but yours that you get information from sources that have not covered these events.  Hell, once a year CSPAN covers an all day discussion called the State of Black America and all types of people with all types of views are heard.  

Personally, I don't need an apology from anyone for anything and I'm insulted that people keep trying to make me responsible for two people.  Hell, Bill Clinton was President and half the country wanted nothing to do with him.  Why does Black America have to have two people thrust on us, when no other community has spokespeople?    

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 Why does Black America have to have two people thrust on us, when no other community has spokespeople?    

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My guess is it's because they both have enough support in the balck community to justify it and people like you who say they have no support there are either few and far between or silent.

Kudos for Oprah Winfrey: she’s done a Town Hall on her show addressing the double standard; a former exec of black magazine said Snoop dog and others should lose their job, too, if they can’t raise their standards.  (Wow, I would have posted less but that SOB Bobby encouraged me to just post more today. 

forgot to mention: new name for Bobby.

Bobby N. Ho.

quote from B. "prejudiced" H:

"Just for kicks, let's pretend that we could remove all of their contributions to society. Would we notice the difference? What if we netted their contributions TO society against their distributions FROM society? Let's  be real. "

and Bobby H said: "we should have picked our own cotton."

He (BH) should apologize or get fired from this board.

(Joe, don't blame you for not wanting anyone to mistake you for him.)

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quote from B. "prejudiced" H:

"Just for kicks, let's pretend that we could remove all of their contributions to society. Would we notice the difference? What if we netted their contributions TO society against their distributions FROM society? Let's  be real. "

and Bobby H said: "we should have picked our own cotton."

He (BH) should apologize or get fired from this board.

(Joe, don't blame you for not wanting anyone to mistake you for him.)

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Did your parents have any other abortions that survived or are you the only one?

You’ve got alot of these insults upyoursleeve don’t you: no wonder everyone considers you the site troll clown.  I’m really glad jodabrkr isn’t you.

[quote=goforbroke]You've got alot of these insults upyoursleeve don't you: no wonder everyone considers you the site troll clown.  I'm really glad jodabrkr isn't you.[/quote]

Yep.

Interesting fwd:  re: black history.  ck it out when convenient. 

warning: religous overtones.

Do a google search on:

Heather Mills "Jimmy Kimmel"

and you'll see that she was scheduled to be on Jimmy Kimmel Show and didn't show.

He proceeded to make lots of jokes about her leg.

This should be another IMUS: making fun of people with one leg.

http://www.mypartypost.com/watchflashbig/5019/Jimmy_Kimmel-_ Heather_Mills_Leg_Falls_Off

Another double standard: how some can get away with it and

some can't.

oh excuse me: The mobsters don't want me posting here.  Ask me if I care.

NOTE:

(hmmm, let me see: this same post could have been done by someone else and been accepted but since I posted it, the mobsters will attack; they now want to give parachute the boot.  No one answered my questions about entering this field; nothing but nastiness is all the mobsters yield.)  

I hope they require you to show proof you are a registered rep and give your real names and where you work and clients (everyone) will have read access.  Would some clients walk and take their business elsewhere? (I know I would!)

What’s your point, paracchute?

No one answered my questions about entering this field; nothing but nastiness is all the mobsters yield.)  

I hope they require you to show proof you are a registered rep and give your real names and where you work and clients (everyone) will have read access.  Would some clients walk and take their business elsewhere? (I know I would!)

I don't believe I've ever seen a post where you asked an actual question or a post where you posted something relevant to this board.  Maybe I missed it, but if it was there it has been covered by all the drivel and spittle you spew.

My clients like me just the way I am, which is just how I post on this forum.  Thanks for your concern.

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Maybe I missed it, but if it was there it has been covered by all the drivel and spittle you spew.

[quote=Philo Kvetch]What's your point, paracchute?[/quote]

Thank you for asking.  Seems Jimmy needs to catch some heat for making fun of Heather Mills: insulting handicapped people. 

How can some get away with this; other's can't?  Double standard.

[quote=babbling looney]No one answered my questions about entering this field; nothing but nastiness is all the mobsters yield.)  

I hope they require you to show proof you are a registered rep and give your real names and where you work and clients (everyone) will have read access.  Would some clients walk and take their business elsewhere? (I know I would!) 

My clients don't care that I'm a mobster:  my clients are mobsters, too.

I don't believe I've ever seen a post where you ever answered an actual question, Babs, (Bobbie Hall, Jr. (apprentice)) or really tried to help someone without being sarcastic.  Maybe I missed it, but Babbles, your narcistic drivel seems to be all spit and sh*t.

Babs says "My clients like me just the way I am, (they have lower standards, too--that's why they picked me."

And if someone is handicapped we can’t insult them? What about the non-

physically handicapped? The mentally infirm (like goforbroke, for example)?

And who is ‘Jimmy’?