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well put. The young women have class, and all the rest is just different forms of taxation.
Those women or their coach don't have class because they didn't accept his apology. Geeze: if he admits he is wrong, says he is sorry says he wants to apologize: least they can do is accept his apology.
It's not fair that someone's career is over from a mistake especially if they express remorse.
We must learn to FORGIVE. So, no, they don't have any class. If they are still harboring resentment towards IMUS, this is a huge mistake. The coach should have encouraged them to forgive him for his mistake.
And how about that nasty hiphop with the black women shaking their bare butts in these videos: Rev J and Al Sharp: let's get busy and address this. At least Bill Cosby has spoken the truth and wants better standards.
We must learn to FORGIVE. So, no, they don't have any class. If they are still harboring resentment towards IMUS, this is a huge mistake.
Absolutely true. I did not know they did not accept. The other day it was all about the process and elevating consciousness for everyone, so Imus has no way out except commercial rebirth? The Tao, Christ, Buddha - these presented long ago, and are real and now, but the human condition persists.
I like your term, " mistake ".
goforbroke, where are you getting your news? They accepted his apology yesterday afternoon and no one has to accept an apology. If I called your wife or daughter a ho would I then just be able to say I’m sorry and have you accept it? Never let the facts get in the way of a good mad on.
Does anyone actually believe that the firing of Don Imus was anything
other than a business decision? GM decided to pull their ads because
they feared that Imus’ remark would hurt car sales, and not due to their
moral outrage at the ‘hurtful racist remarks’. Be clear about something
here…these companies would come out in favor of cancer if they thought
it would increase market share.
As to the Rutgers girls, one of them has come out and said that she’s
been scarred for life by Imus’ comment, so it would appear that at least
one of them is as least as disingenuous as the business interests on the
other side.
For the record, I remember listening to Imus In The Morning on WABC
radio 77 in the early 1970s. I thought he was a jerk then, and over the
years nothing has happened that changed that opinion. I wish he hadn’t
said what he did, but he did say it. I think we’re a strong enough people
to move on to more important issues.
Does anyone actually believe that the firing of Don Imus was anything other than a business decision
It was a business decision based on extortion by racist shakedown artists who are selectively outraged. It would be a real business decision if anyone had taken the time to let the market work. If people refused to turn in to the station or refused to buy the products advertised. They didn't give it any time. They caved into extortion, threats and political correctness gone amok.
The rush to condemn and punish was just as bad as that in the case of the Duke players which is also a racially motivated hit job.
The hypocrisy of both situations stinks.
Babs, good point. When Imus re-emerges somewhere else, he will be
paid more and have a broader audience. Sick, but true.
[quote=Broker24]Babs, good point. When Imus re-emerges somewhere else, he will be
paid more and have a broader audience. Sick, but true.[/quote]
I'll listen to him. Until now, I just thought that he was some democrat loving idiot. I didn't realize that he was funny enough to crack jokes about NHH's.
Babbling Looney, Imus called Al Sharpton not the other way around. It was mediamatters.com & the NABJ that initially pressed the case for Imus to be fired and the president of NBC News said he was most affected by the opinions of NBC employees like Al Roker and Keith Olberman. Once again, never let the facts get in the way of a good mad on.
Well, perhaps I misunderstood re: apology; thought I heard (on CNN) they didn't accept it.
If I were a man and someone called my wife and daughter a ho: and later apologized, I would make it clear to not do it again and would accept their apology.
As far as blacks go, it was blacks who sold their own to the whites. But let's not be prejudiced: I like black people and they've contributed alot to this country. But as I mentioned, there is a double standard with the rap music and videos.
One team member said they were scarred for life?? -- give me a break! This is too much. They obviously need therapy if they can't handle a little comment like that. I mean: if you're hair is nappy as even blacks describe it themselves; and you know you are NOT a ho: why be insulted: they need a little assertiveness training or maybe Dr. Phil needs to talk to them. You can't let someone mentally hurt you without your permission.
IMUS is in his 60's; doesn't really need to work: his wife doesn't seem to be too supportive of him but they probably both agreed what she would say.
[quote=goforbroke]
Well, perhaps I misunderstood re: apology; thought I heard (on CNN) they didn't accept it.
If I were a man and someone called my wife and daughter a ho: and later apologized, I would make it clear to not do it again and would accept their apology.
As far as blacks go, it was blacks who sold their own to the whites. But let's not be prejudiced: I like black people and they've contributed alot to this country. But as I mentioned, there is a double standard with the rap music and videos.
One team member said they were scarred for life?? -- give me a break! This is too much. They obviously need therapy if they can't handle a little comment like that. I mean: if you're hair is nappy as even blacks describe it themselves; and you know you are NOT a ho: why be insulted: they need a little assertiveness training or maybe Dr. Phil needs to talk to them. You can't let someone mentally hurt you without your permission.
IMUS is in his 60's; doesn't really need to work: his wife doesn't seem to be too supportive of him but they probably both agreed what she would say.
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Just for kicks, let's pretend that we could remove all of their contributions to society. Would we notice the difference? What if we netted their contributions TO society against their distributions FROM society? Let's be real.
[quote=Bobby Hull][quote=goforbroke]
Well, perhaps I misunderstood re: apology; thought I heard (on CNN) they didn't accept it.
If I were a man and someone called my wife and daughter a ho: and later apologized, I would make it clear to not do it again and would accept their apology.
As far as blacks go, it was blacks who sold their own to the whites. But let's not be prejudiced: I like black people and they've contributed alot to this country. But as I mentioned, there is a double standard with the rap music and videos.
One team member said they were scarred for life?? -- give me a break! This is too much. They obviously need therapy if they can't handle a little comment like that. I mean: if you're hair is nappy as even blacks describe it themselves; and you know you are NOT a ho: why be insulted: they need a little assertiveness training or maybe Dr. Phil needs to talk to them. You can't let someone mentally hurt you without your permission.
IMUS is in his 60's; doesn't really need to work: his wife doesn't seem to be too supportive of him but they probably both agreed what she would say.
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Just for kicks, let's pretend that we could remove all of their contributions to society. Would we notice the difference? What if we netted their contributions TO society against their distributions FROM society? Let's be real.
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The both of you are repugnant!
You need to find your internal "Jimminy Cricket" and dial them up severalteen notches!
[quote=Whomitmayconcer][quote=Bobby Hull][quote=goforbroke]
Well, perhaps I misunderstood re: apology; thought I heard (on CNN) they didn't accept it.
If I were a man and someone called my wife and daughter a ho: and later apologized, I would make it clear to not do it again and would accept their apology.
As far as blacks go, it was blacks who sold their own to the whites. But let's not be prejudiced: I like black people and they've contributed alot to this country. But as I mentioned, there is a double standard with the rap music and videos.
One team member said they were scarred for life?? -- give me a break! This is too much. They obviously need therapy if they can't handle a little comment like that. I mean: if you're hair is nappy as even blacks describe it themselves; and you know you are NOT a ho: why be insulted: they need a little assertiveness training or maybe Dr. Phil needs to talk to them. You can't let someone mentally hurt you without your permission.
IMUS is in his 60's; doesn't really need to work: his wife doesn't seem to be too supportive of him but they probably both agreed what she would say.
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Just for kicks, let's pretend that we could remove all of their contributions to society. Would we notice the difference? What if we netted their contributions TO society against their distributions FROM society? Let's be real.
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The both of you are repugnant!
You need to find your internal "Jimminy Cricket" and dial them up severalteen notches!
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That's just what I would say if I didn't have the guts to give an honest answer to my questions.
The number of pages it would take to bring you up to speed before I could even begin to explain to you why your questions are repugnant not to mention erroneous is daunting.
It's something that your parents should have told you as you were growing up.
My participation in this thread is over. I won't help to give you a platform from which to spew your vomituration (and that goes for you too Babbling Looney!) You should all be ashamed of yourselves! You are as disgusting, in your impotent way, as Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton (at least they were able to rise above being mealy mouthed pablum pukers on some anonymous web chatboard).
[quote=Whomitmayconcer]
The number of pages it would take to bring you up to speed before I could even begin to explain to you why your questions are repugnant not to mention erroneous is daunting.
It's something that your parents should have told you as you were growing up.
My participation in this thread is over. I won't help to give you a platform from which to spew your vomituration (and that goes for you too Babbling Looney!) You should all be ashamed of yourselves! You are as disgusting, in your impotent way, as Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton (at least they were able to rise above being mealy mouthed pablum pukers on some anonymous web chatboard).
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No guts.
[quote=champ]Babbling Looney, Imus called Al Sharpton not the other way around. It was mediamatters.com & the NABJ that initially pressed the case for Imus to be fired and the president of NBC News said he was most affected by the opinions of NBC employees like Al Roker and Keith Olberman. Once again, never let the facts get in the way of a good mad on. [/quote]
I don't like what Imus had to say about the girls BB team and agree that he is a repugnant idiot and I have never understood the appeal of his scthick. However, the likes of Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton who are professional victims and personally profit from creating racial divisions and making mountains out of molehills.
They take every opportunity to make things worse instead of better. Al Sharpton has a history of rushing to any opportunity, like the Twana Brawley case, to inflame racial tensions and make himself the center of the story . Jessie Jackson is a professional shake down artist who lines his own pockets and that of his family by throwing down the race card and whipping himself and others into a froth of indignation. Remember the GE shakedown by Jackson? Neither one of these gentlemen (and I use the term loosely) have any standing to discuss other peoples perceived racism, when they have proved themselves to be racists themselves.
Hymietown anyone? Duke LaCross players "Jesse Jackson, who, in an act of sympathy, publicly condemned the athletes and offered a scholarship to the woman as a show of support for her victicrat status." " Al and Jessie were quick to rush to North Carolina to hold protests and vilify the LaCrosse players, ruin their reputations, have them kicked out of school, lose their jobs.....all the time they have been proven innocent. They did this on purpose and with malice, yet they refuse to apologize as they demanded of Imus and has he has done.
Only white people have to apologize and grovel for offensive (and I agree it was offensive) remarks, while racists like Sharpton and Jackson can organize protests, boycotts, ruin and put the screws to corporate America to advance their own personal agendas.
Reverse racism and hypocrisy rule the day along with political correctness gone amok.
Keith Olberman!! Puleeze. There's some one with no agenda.
[quote=champ]Babbling Looney, Imus called Al Sharpton not the other way around. It was mediamatters.com & the NABJ that initially pressed the case for Imus to be fired and the president of NBC News said he was most affected by the opinions of NBC employees like Al Roker and Keith Olberman. Once again, never let the facts get in the way of a good mad on. [/quote]
Speaking of the facts getting in the way of a good mad on where's Sharton's apology to the Duke Lacrosse players? Or for that matter the families of the Freddy Fashion Mart victims? Al is a racist outrage peddler who deserves no stage. He trades in manufactured insult. Read up on Freddy's Fashion Mart and then come back to this forum and defend this man. Here, I'll get you started: Apparently, in that situation it was Ok to leave out the fact that the reason the jewish landlord raised the rent to his black subtenant was the Black church who owned the building raised his rent. Al didn't publicize the fact that the jewish tenant, whose rent had been raise by the black church, was only responding in kind to this rent increase making a sound and necessary business decision to raise the rent of his subtenants. Al made it about race and only race and left out the Black church's roll in the situation. Sharpton twisted it to the jew was trying to push the brother out. The neighborhood led by Sharton's professional outrage mongers bought it hook line and sinker. Sharpton, as part of the protest chanted that "This Block will burn" and it did. It only cost seven people their lives. Rev Al walked away saying he couldn't control everyone.
CBS, NBC, and all the sponsors are hypocrits. CBS and NBC owned radio stations and television stations are playing songs like Ludacris "Ho" or Afroman's "Crazyrap" and songs of that ilk that are much more degrading to black woman than anything Imus said. Yet strangely Roker and Olberman are Ok with that. The sponsors still advertise on MTV, VH1, and the hip-hop radio stations which trade in this degrading music. Where's the outrage?
Lyrics like "Piss on a Ho" are OK, no Sharpton, no outrage. Yet Imus is racially insensative. If that's not a double standard nothing is.