It would have been at least a half step more sophisticated if Anonymous had called for chemical castration of the offender. But to think that jail is the answer is juvenile.

You can keep your sophistication.  I want child molesters off the streets.  I have no problem with chemical castration...after they serve their jail term.  Molesters belong in jail.   This shouldn't be such a hard concept to grasp.

Congratulations Anonymous, you have dragged the conversation down to a level matches your intellect.

Good for you.

If wanting child molestors in jail drags down the conversation, let it be dragged.

My unsophisticated unintellectual brain can't understand why anyone wouldn't want them there.  Well, I can think of one reason, but it's not something that I would want to post.  I'll leave the personal attacks to you.

Ok, you can shut up now.

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It would have been at least a half step more sophisticated if Anonymous had called for chemical castration of the offender. But to think that jail is the answer is juvenile.

You can keep your sophistication.  I want child molesters off the streets.  I have no problem with chemical castration...after they serve their jail term.  Molesters belong in jail.   This shouldn't be such a hard concept to grasp.

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Anonymous, you have totally destroyed this thread. Please leave now please please since youknowwhom knows that you know that I know.  Surely, we shouldn't have a problem in grasping the concept that it's ok to molest a child-after all of course "they will get over it" (the priest just "made do") and per whomit's privately owned vehicle, they will get over it.  It's not the end of the world.  Let the priests continue molesting.  The foundation is that the children are resilient and "will get over it". The Catholic Church owes nothing.  Amen!    

Nancy, shut the hell up and go away.

All child molesters should be executed.

Did anyone see the new show Mad Men on A&E?<?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

It's apparently produced by the guy who produced Sopranos (but it's not written by David Chase). Set in 1960 ish this program is heavy with reminders of what the world was like when The Pill and Valium were both first introduced.

The show reminded me of the Joseph Heller book Something Happened where the expectation was that one took a two Martini lunch and schtupped a steno daily. It was a rarefied time when women were liberated but before women's liberation (which was a subsubject of the show about the '60s on PBS right before Mad Men) . I have a particular fondness for the advertising business, I think that there are only very few jobs that are worth doing, This one, Ad Exec, Ordnance sales, Astronaut and Senator or above level politician. These are jobs that require you to be analytical, smart, personable and creative to be good at them. As such, this show, while not being about our business is about the type of people that we are, or at least were, back in the day.

The show hit on at least three controversial issues in it's pilot. First was the problem with advertising cigarettes, which they Readers Digest had just labeled as deadly, and the F something something (CC, TA, a federal agency) had outlawed using health claims for selling cigarettes. The second was a threefer, a woman, who was Jewish was running her family store and wanted to position it as an upscale destination at a time when this demographic distinction didn't really exist. The third slips my mind right now. It's not really the sex thing or the Pill, it's not how shabbily women were treated pre "Sexual Harassment" concepts, Ah, it was the smoking! Everybody smoked, all of the time! The show goes out of it's way to recreate the mystique of smoking and the social opportunities it presented (how suave one could be lighting a ladies cigarette, and how she handled the job of posing with her cancer stick.)

I would have felt that the director was going overboard with the whole issue and was only bringing it up to go along with the  protagonists dilemma (how to advertise the cigarette without making health claims), but overall, I'll put that judgment off until I see other episodes not about smoking we'll see how much smoking is being done in those eps. The net result does not come off as an endorsement for smoking, it actually reminds us how annoying it used to be to be a non smoker. One could easily think that the tobacco companies were underwriting this program.

The protagonist, however does pull the rabbit out of the hat at the pitch meeting with big tobacco, and again it is very much like what our business can be like (except differently). He boots the meeting with the Jewish store owner though, which of course means that they are eventually going to wind up in bed together after plenty of Sturm und Drang.

This show has an interesting twist in that during commercial breaks the show will return with a tidbit about an ad category, like "The first Pharmaceutical ad aired in 1997" and then there is an ad for the pill for Fibrosis. The tid bit refers to Egyptian papyrus advertising poster, and then there is an ad for Disney (sometimes it takes a hop to figure how the two are related , but they are). Personally, I liked this in that it is a fresh idea, and I'm in favor of the creativity. But it also breaks up the monotony of a commercial break.

I'd recommend that, assuming you watch something on the tube, that you give this show a try. It's not the sort of stuff I usually watch, and I'll be sure to be bored with it soon enough, but I'll try to keep it on my viewing schedule.

[quote=Whomitmayconcer]

Did anyone see the new show Mad Men on A&E?<?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

It's apparently produced by the guy who produced Sopranos (but it's not written by David Chase). Set in 1960 ish this program is heavy with reminders of what the world was like when The Pill and Valium were both first introduced.

The show reminded me of the Joseph Heller book Something Happened where the expectation was that one took a two Martini lunch and schtupped a steno daily. It was a rarefied time when women were liberated but before women's liberation (which was a subsubject of the show about the '60s on PBS right before Mad Men) . I have a particular fondness for the advertising business, I think that there are only very few jobs that are worth doing, This one, Ad Exec, Ordnance sales, Astronaut and Senator or above level politician. These are jobs that require you to be analytical, smart, personable and creative to be good at them. As such, this show, while not being about our business is about the type of people that we are, or at least were, back in the day.

The show hit on at least three controversial issues in it's pilot. First was the problem with advertising cigarettes, which they Readers Digest had just labeled as deadly, and the F something something (CC, TA, a federal agency) had outlawed using health claims for selling cigarettes. The second was a threefer, a woman, who was Jewish was running her family store and wanted to position it as an upscale destination at a time when this demographic distinction didn't really exist. The third slips my mind right now. It's not really the sex thing or the Pill, it's not how shabbily women were treated pre "Sexual Harassment" concepts, Ah, it was the smoking! Everybody smoked, all of the time! The show goes out of it's way to recreate the mystique of smoking and the social opportunities it presented (how suave one could be lighting a ladies cigarette, and how she handled the job of posing with her cancer stick.)

I would have felt that the director was going overboard with the whole issue and was only bringing it up to go along with the  protagonists dilemma (how to advertise the cigarette without making health claims), but overall, I'll put that judgment off until I see other episodes not about smoking we'll see how much smoking is being done in those eps. The net result does not come off as an endorsement for smoking, it actually reminds us how annoying it used to be to be a non smoker. One could easily think that the tobacco companies were underwriting this program.

The protagonist, however does pull the rabbit out of the hat at the pitch meeting with big tobacco, and again it is very much like what our business can be like (except differently). He boots the meeting with the Jewish store owner though, which of course means that they are eventually going to wind up in bed together after plenty of Sturm und Drang.

This show has an interesting twist in that during commercial breaks the show will return with a tidbit about an ad category, like "The first Pharmaceutical ad aired in 1997" and then there is an ad for the pill for Fibrosis. The tid bit refers to Egyptian papyrus advertising poster, and then there is an ad for Disney (sometimes it takes a hop to figure how the two are related , but they are). Personally, I liked this in that it is a fresh idea, and I'm in favor of the creativity. But it also breaks up the monotony of a commercial break.

I'd recommend that, assuming you watch something on the tube, that you give this show a try. It's not the sort of stuff I usually watch, and I'll be sure to be bored with it soon enough, but I'll try to keep it on my viewing schedule.

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THanks for the tip. It's on AMC, not A&E. Another good show that kicks the soprano's ass is "The Brotherhood" on Showtime. THe first season is available on Showtime On Demand.

Actually watched Mad Men last night as well. Good show.

I liked when he said "They don't have machines that magically make two copies of the report."

Then there was the "Don't be scared by the technology (as she unveils an IBM Selectric), they made it so easy even a woman could use it!"

And the Cerberus at the switchboard.

Enough comic relief to keep the show light, not too much.

OK  I have to Tivo it.   Right now, I’m into re-watching the first season of Deadwood.   I am so pissed that HBO didn’t go for the fourth season.  cokesoakers!!    Seriously, how much money do they want to throw away not to renew this?   I cancelled my subscription.

Hey, there's still Big Love to watch.

[quote=Dust Bunny]OK  I have to Tivo it.   Right now, I'm into re-watching the first season of Deadwood.   I am so pissed that HBO didn't go for the fourth season.  cokesoakers!!    Seriously, how much money do they want to throw away not to renew this?   I cancelled my subscription.[/quote]

I'd drop mine if they ever ended Entourage.<?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

 Speaking of which, anyone notice the girl trying on shoes at the shoe store? I couldn’t have been the only one to see it….