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Always Amazed at Some people,when Members of Race Are responsible for such Idiotic Behavior,that their Defenders complain about it Being a Race Thing !
As for the GoofBall that thinks Other Races act in Similar fasion ?
if you're Speaking of La Raza in Calif, you May be Right !
If you're Speaking of the Cubans in Miami, you May be Right !
but i Remember Being in the Huricanes of Florida and i Believe,
that We didn't shoot at Our Resuers ! NUFF Said !
Wishing you All the Best: but Lord Save us From OurSelves !
SanteeClause
Regardless of economic means (or the lack thereof), no one should have remained in the New Orleans area during Katrina. Even accepting the fact that there were people who could not afford to leave is not an excuse. So, how could they have been evacuated?
I would venture to guess that there are several hundred school and church buses in the New Orleans area. Why didn't the responsible officials employ these buses as a way to shuttle people out of harm's way? Why wasn't there a plan incorporating these emergency measures?
Why wasn't there a plan incorporating these emergency measures?
I agree completely. There should have been a plan in place to move the indigent, poor and those without the means to get out of town. It isn't a surprise that a hurricane can hit New Orleans, or the rest of the Gulf Coast. It was not a secret that New Orleans is under sea level and protected by inadequate levees. They had plenty of warning that THIS storm was approaching and was a serious threat. A lack of any coordinated contingency plan is to blame for the majority of this mess. I would hope that city governments around the US are taking a lesson from this and begin contingency planning NOW. I expect that they won't and the next disaster, terrorist attack, pandemic, dirty bomb will catch them with their pants down again.
Never the less, there still would be people who for whatever reason refused to leave. Those people need to bear the consequences of their own actions. There is a famous mountain near my location that people will come from around the world to climb. A stupid passtime in my opinion. But when they get trapped in a snow storm, or break a leg, they expect that other people will put themselves in harms way to rescue their stupid asses. At taxpayer expense I might add.
The government can only, and should only be responsible for certain things. People need to take resposibility for their own actions. I have little sympathy for those who could have escape and didn't. And as I said before I have great sympathy for those who were helplessly trapped.
So sad, so many lives affected or lost... must be nice to be able to sit back, criticize, belittle and point fingers from inside one’s nice, dry, cushy home. <?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
Yes, I'm sitting in my dry cushy home that my hard-earned money purchased. If I later decide that I don't want to work anymore before I'm done paying for it, odds are, I'll be living in a shelter also. Leaving color aside, I too, do not have much use for those that whine and complain and wait for a handout when they are capable of making a better life for themselves.
Most of this, in my opinion, is the result of poor role models, or the absence of role models these folks had when they grew up. Dad slaps mom around, son thinks that's the way it's done. Dad impregnates mom and then disappears, son grows up thinking that love 'em and leave 'em is normal. Mom doesn't want to get a job because she'd lose her welfare benefits, guess what her daughter's first though is when it's time to fly the nest? Right! Have a baby...get on welfare! Kids don't study in school because no one at home graduated and no one encourages studying and hard work.
I don't buy the genetics theory at all. If a young black child has hard-working and successful parentS, they are much more likely to succeed because of their role models. If dad is in jail and mom is on welfare, it doesn't matter what your color or race is, if you aren't the strong self-motivated type, which most of us are not at that age, you've got a hard road ahead. That doesn't mean that you don't know right from wrong at a fairly early age, and it doesn't make you commit crimes, but it sure makes it seem more normal.
I too, am disgusted by much of what I see in New Orleans, but I'm not disgusted because most are black...I am disgusted because (1) some are taking advantage of a bad situation and (2) many continue to whine and complain even when their basic needs are met. Wake up people...it's going to be awhile before the Hilton is back in operation...and if you didn't live there before the hurricane, you ain't gonna live there afterwards either!
The shame of this all is that we are seeing the actions of a decided minority. Most folks in New Orleans took the simple advice given and left. Many stayed because they couldn't leave. These two groups are the true victims. Some stayed because they decided to stay. I'll give some sympathy here, particularly those business owners who stayed to try and prevent the looting. A few stayed because they were looking forward to the inevitable looting and lawlessness opportunity. For these, I have less than zero sympathy.
That's my soapbox session for the weekend. I have been donating and will continue to donate cash and goods to the cause. We need to remember that those we see in front of the camera doing stupid things and acting like ingrates are truly in the minority. Most victims deserve our help and prayers...
For charity to be successful and have its positive effects continue to impact the recipient's life, there must be a mutual agreement: The recipient must supply the motivation to improve a given situation and the charity must supply the means to achieve it.
Simply put: If you want me to help you get on your feet, you must first get off your a**
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Are you insane Meno? How can you make excusses for these animals? I don't care what colar they are, they are the cockroaches of society. They blame the world for their problems. Uneducated? Whos fault is that? Theirs. Poor-whos falt is that. Theirs.
I remember about 18 years ago when I owned a business in Chicago. I ran out of a particular supply and had to make an early morning run to the very worse and most dangerous part of town to do a pick up. At a stop light I sat keeping my head low and doors locked when a herd of kids crossed the street on the way to school. They were all complete thugs and gangbangers. The scariest bunch of kids I ever saw. Not a one had a book.
Then behind this group about 50 feet back walked a little asian kid. All by himself, neatly dressed. But what stood out most was the giant stack of books he was lugging. He was the only one out of about 20 who had a book. I often wonder what happend to that little kid. Here he was in the worst area of Chicago but his parents I am sure realized the value of an education. I bet today he is a successful professional while the rest of those kids, now adults or more likely inmates, are complaining how society let them down. THey are representitive of these idiots in New Orleans who are now looting and killing.
Dredges of society. I hope the army takes some of them out. I hear a heavly armed convoy is making its way to the dome. Hopefully they have been given the go-ahead to shoot when needed.
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No. I am not insane. I am a genius. I think on a much higher level than you or inquisitive could ever possibly comprehend. Please read this book and educate yourself: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0684818868/qid =1125806987/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-0899413-5203957?v=glance &s=books&n=507846
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Just got back from a few days off. Spent much of the time in Reno glued to the news. Like watching a fascinating train wreck. You know it's coming. You know it is going to be terrible and you still can't stop looking.
About the people who remained in the city. Many of them are the poorest of the poor who had no way to leave even if they wanted to. I feel for them and the innocent children. The City officials should have made some effort to help them evacuate. Those that refused to evacuate should just STFU. Unfortunately some of them are also the criminals, slackers and leeches that suck the life out of the rest of society. I do NOT feel for them. It is welfare mentality that has created this problem. The idea that you are "owed" by society and that what you are given is not good enough and you demand more. I am struck dumb by the woman who was whining that she had nothing to eat for days and no water, yet when given a MRE (the same food that our troops in combat eat) threw it away because it wasn't hot and was not tasty enough for her discriminating (welfare) standards. Come on. Puuuleeese. I am supposed to feel sorry for bitches and leeches like that?? I hope she drowns.
As we know in our business, 80% of our revenue is generated by 20% of our book. I appears to me, in a reverse sense, that the 20% of New Orleans that remained in the city represents the 20% of society that is not generating anything useful and is a basic drag on society.
I know this sounds really cold, but I am a realist. I compared it to cleaning the refrigerator. During the cleaning process you have to throw out the scummy vegetables that have hidden in the back of the drawer, the half used jar of salsa that has green slime on top, and remove the apples that have started to go bad while saving the good apples. When you are done the fridge is clean, organized and healthy. I am NOT advocating that we as a society purposly clense our "refrigerator" (so to speak). I am merely observing this seems to be a process that is occuring now in this disaster. And yes, it is cold, but it might be a good thing in the long run.
Flame away
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It seems to me that you should read the same book that I suggested for Malcolm. Perhaps you could borrow his edition when he gets done.
[quote=doberman]
Regardless of economic means (or the lack thereof), no one should have remained in the New Orleans area during Katrina. Even accepting the fact that there were people who could not afford to leave is not an excuse. So, how could they have been evacuated?
I would venture to guess that there are several hundred school and church buses in the New Orleans area. Why didn't the responsible officials employ these buses as a way to shuttle people out of harm's way? Why wasn't there a plan incorporating these emergency measures?
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Read the book.
INDYONE
well Put! I enjoyed your post!
Should New Orleans be rebuilt? By rebuilding are we just waiting for this to happen again?
I just wondered what everyone thinks about this.
Parts of New Orleans should not ne rebuilt, but they will rebuild it.
Many of these people will not have insurance coverage for flood damage, so the money will have to come from the gov. Sad.
[quote=Starka]Menotellname, if all history books lie, why should anyone believe this one?[/quote]
Starka,
Why don't you at least attempt or feign understanding before you ask a question?
It makes perferct since to ask a question if you don't understand the lesson. Of course, first you must sit through the lesson and then ask questions AFTERWARDS if you still do not understand.
Simply put...read the book.
It seems to me that you should read the same book that I suggested for Malcolm. Perhaps you could borrow his edition when he gets done.
I will if you will read these.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0451191145/qid =1125853615/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-6900558-8775967?v=glance &s=books&n=507846
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0451163931/qid =1125853784/sr=8-4/ref=pd_bbs_4/104-6900558-8775967?v=glance &s=books&n=507846
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0156334607/qid =1125853890/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-6900558-8775967?v=glance &s=books&n=507846
BTW: what in my post do you take exeption to and where do you think I am wrong?
This board is hilarious. You have Stanka going blah, blah, blah, then here comes inqueeritive going blah, blah, blah, and then to top it off Executivejockstrap going blah, blah, blah. Three middle-aged angry white men going off. We are all in the financial services industry making alot more than your average blue collar worker. But nooooo, thats not good enough. You have to pick on an ENTIRE race who has been oppressed in this country for hundreds of years. The people black or white in LA don’t need your criticism. Thats why I bought life insurance, disability insurance, medical insurance, because we are all one lawsuit, one car accident, one illness, or one job loss away from being one of those people. Life is good so count your f*cking blessings and shut up.
The people black or white in LA don't need your criticism
I feel sorry for them being caught in a huge natural disaster and a catastrophe greatly of their own making too. So no they don't "need" my criticism but they sure as hell seem to "demand" my money in the way of taxpayer funded subsidies. I voluntarily donate to charities that are helping the evacuees because they need the help and they need it now. What I resent is the entitlement attitude that "demands".
They may not need our criticism, but they should pay some attention to the criticism and suggestions so they won't be in this predicament again.
[quote=VotedforKerry]This board is hilarious. You have Stanka going blah, blah, blah, then here comes inqueeritive going blah, blah, blah, and then to top it off Executivejockstrap going blah, blah, blah. Three middle-aged angry white men going off. We are all in the financial services industry making alot more than your average blue collar worker. But nooooo, thats not good enough. You have to pick on an ENTIRE race who has been oppressed in this country for hundreds of years. The people black or white in LA don't need your criticism. Thats why I bought life insurance, disability insurance, medical insurance, because we are all one lawsuit, one car accident, one illness, or one job loss away from being one of those people. Life is good so count your f*cking blessings and shut up.[/quote]
So what are you saying? That the animals that are looting, raping, killing, etc. should be commended and rewarded for their actions because they didn't leave when told to do so, and got flooded out????
No wonder you voted for Kerry.