We're BACK! wooo whoo
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[quote=howboutshoeshine][quote=Shania Twain] [quote=howboutshoeshine]
Preliminary sales data from Martin's organization, a Chicago research firm that tracks sales at more than 50,000 stores, showed shoppers spent $10.66 billion when they hit the malls on the day after Thanksgiving. That's only 0.5 percent more than last year when Black Friday sales rose a striking 3 percent. ( Yahoo Finance )
WOW. We are BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Less increase than the year of the market CRASH. In the simplest terms po
your a bit testy
this bull your missing is tough to take?
?
you were all in going into 08, wer'nt you?
finally capitulated and sold?
let me guess...around down 6900? mid feb?
you felt smart for about 3 weeks?
turned bearish and flipped to that candy ass, girly man, depends portfolio?
thats it is'nt it? gold was like 800 when u shorted it?
USD down at least 30%
you might be up on 20 yr (maybe not)
heck, id be pissed too. what a horrible trap. you missed such a monster move and your actually LOSING money on way up.
that is brutal. down 45% from peak and 10% on bull run?
id be a bit wired too. what do you do now? get in?
triple whip saw?
and your a young guy.
i'm sorry dude
you know what. i think you need a finacial advisor[/quote] Short answer NO. I missed nothing. I was in before you and started scaling out at 950. Completely out by 1050. You all ready know what I hold now. I was covered for MOST of the crash not ALL. I guarantee I've made more than you, but I can't prove it here. I will prove I have more knowledge than you when we DIVE back to the lows and break them though. Funny thing is..........you will still try and spin it with lies because you're a traditional advisor ( I can tell by your posts ) and that's what you do. You will cost people most of their life savings, but won't feel any guilt because"making people money is NOT your job" or " I don;'t control the markets" or " no one saw this coming except some witch doctors" or " This manager did better we should put your money there" or countless other excuses I listened to last year. The only difference will be that you won't get a second chance next time. You received your shot across the bow and ignored it. I pitty your clientele. I won't proof read this because I don't care so find a spelling error. LOSER[/quote] You forgot these lines.. "Warren Buffett is all in on America" "No one can time the market" "If you miss the 5 biggest up days you miss out on 75% of your return" "Stocks outperform cash and bonds over the long run" "With Dollar cost averaging you buy more when the market goes down" blah blah blah.. I dont know where its going the next 3-6 months, but would bet anyone on here a grand that two years from now we lower than now, My guess is we go to 7500 and hold there, then trade between 7500 and 9000 for a couple years, then if we break 7500 you can pick any number on the downside, because their all possible.
[quote=fritz]
stay short
hold ur cash
thats why they play the games
We get it. The market is either going to the moon or is going to crash and burn.
[quote=Shania Twain] [quote=fritz]
stay short
hold ur cash
thats why they play the games[/quote] You don't understand your field
Your logic is simple and I could teach it to a fourth grader in half an hour, that's why it's wrong.
Let me see if I understand. The market is dead, or maybe it is alive. Is that it?
After reading all the posts on this thread, I really believe that this whole forum is a very big waste of energy and most people here are posers. You guys and maybe gals (Shania) really have nothing to add to help real financial advisors help thier clients weather the curent storms. Everyone here seems to be on an ego trip by trying to out think all the other posers on this site. You guys and maybe gals (SHANIA) bring absolutely nothing to the betterment of our industry. I rellay suggest that you losers go home and update your resume as this industry is so much bigger and powerful than anyone here and its time to be humbled my friends!!!
[quote=UBScrewed]
You guys and maybe gals (SHANIA) bring absolutely nothing to the betterment of our industry.
wtf
the betterment of our industry?
again, wtf
With regard to the original post…Preliminary BF sales figures have been reported as flat yr/yr, but online sales have been estimated to at least +5% yr/yr. Overall, BF sales have been surprisingly strong and again higher than Wall Street estimates.
Pre Xmass increase in hr worked and overtime are seasonal. If we still see increases in these figures in Jan then we may see a bottoming in employment #s. Jury still out on this however and we need to see more data points before we can declare the beginning of a trend.
[quote=exUBS] With regard to the original post…Preliminary BF sales figures have been reported as flat yr/yr, but online sales have been estimated to at least +5% yr/yr. Overall, BF sales have been surprisingly strong and again higher than Wall Street estimates.Pre Xmass increase in hr worked and overtime are seasonal. If we still see increases in these figures in Jan then we may see a bottoming in employment #s. Jury still out on this however and we need to see more data points before we can declare the beginning of a trend.
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I dont want things TOO good. just good enuf for Ben to keep rates at 0%
So all you bears.
and all the Mel cash on sidelines…
gets harder and harder to hold on to.
when “things look better” ( I love that line) the Mels of the world will find it safe to come into the water
that will be a top
Wal-mart makes zero profit for selling a TV for $300? Please provide a source for this claim.
[quote=double dip]Black Monday is kind of like your business. You get the traffic if you discount your fees enough but your payout sucks. Walmart selling TV’s for 300 $ . What do you think their profit is on that. ZERO. the earnings not gonna make it to expectations. CRASH IS COMING
LONDON -(Dow Jones)- European banks have a total of $83.7 billion of loan exposure to the United Arab Emirates, Jaques Callioux, Chief euro-zone Economist at the Royal Bank of Scotland said in a report released Friday.
That’s just European banks .[/quote]
Wal-mart makes zero profit for selling a TV for $300? Please provide a source for this claim.
.The Mall of America in Minneapolis, saw 325,000 visitors Friday and Saturday, the most in 17 years.
After reading all the posts on this thread, I really believe that this whole forum is a very big waste of energy and most people here are posers. You guys and maybe gals (Shania) really have nothing to add to help real financial advisors help thier clients weather the curent storms. Everyone here seems to be on an ego trip by trying to out think all the other posers on this site. You guys and maybe gals (SHANIA) bring absolutely nothing to the betterment of our industry. I rellay suggest that you losers go home and update your resume as this industry is so much bigger and powerful than anyone here and its time to be humbled my friends!!!
The only way to ever bring " betterment " to your industry ( retail broker ) is to shut it down and place all of you crooks in prison
[quote=UBScrewed]
The only way to ever bring " betterment " to your industry ( retail broker ) is to shut it down and place all of you crooks in prison[/quote]
mel
Im sorry market not going down for you.
Im sorry you have been dead wrong
Im sorry you look a bit follish.
Im sorry your losing money
but there is no need to get so angry. I really think you need a PROFESSIONAL advisor to help guide you through these times. Its ok. Just let it go. I takes a true pro to not get emotional and make huge mistakes like what you're doing. You're young. A pro can get you on track.
do it for your wife and kids
[quote=DOWN] [quote=UBScrewed]
The only way to ever bring " betterment " to your industry ( retail broker ) is to shut it down and place all of you crooks in prison[/quote]
mel
Im sorry market not going down for you.
Im sorry you have been dead wrong
Im sorry you look a bit follish.
Im sorry your losing money
but there is no need to get so angry. I really think you need a PROFESSIONAL advisor to help guide you through these times. Its ok. Just let it go. I takes a true pro to not get emotional and make huge mistakes like what you're doing. You're young. A pro can get you on track.
do it for your wife and kids [/quote]
S & P 500 up 1 % since 9/23/09
WOW !!!!!
you seem a bit down.
hey, I understand. this is NOT easy.
that why we are PROs we are trained for this.
maybe this is a bottom for you like AA.
send me a PM and we can start new account process. just let it go.
its ok we will get you back on track and you can start focusing on your real job and lose some of the stress of these markets in your life!
it’s ok. your among friends
With regard to the original post…Preliminary BF sales figures have been reported as flat yr/yr, but online sales have been estimated to at least +5% yr/yr. Overall, BF sales have been surprisingly strong and again higher than Wall Street estimates.
Pre Xmass increase in hr worked and overtime are seasonal. If we still see increases in these figures in Jan then we may see a bottoming in employment #s. Jury still out on this however and we need to see more data points before we can declare the beginning of a trend.
NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. stocks declined moderately on Monday as weak data on holiday retail sales prompted questions about the consumer's ability to spend.
"So far, the numbers don't look very strong," said Bruce Bittles, chief investment strategist at Robert W. Baird & Co in Nashville.
"It will be hard to attract shoppers without discounting, which will hurt margins, and given all the stimulus that has been thrown at the economy, this is a disappointment."
[quote=fritz]
I dont know where its going the next 3-6 months, but would bet anyone on here a grand that two years from now we lower than now, My guess is we go to 7500 and hold there, then trade between 7500 and 9000 for a couple years, then if we break 7500 you can pick any number on the downside, because their all possible.[/quote] $1000 that we'll be lower in 2 years than where we are today? I'll take that all day long and twice on Sundays.