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my understanding is that anyone submitting contrived envisions would be considered to be misrepresenting the comp plan and be terminated.
the guys should be thankful if they merely have to redo their 'cookie cutter' plans. regardless, these posts are blowing things out of proportion. i guess it should be expected with BE PATIENT involved.go huskies. You better hope you didnt leave it to your assistant to do. You might get a swift kick in the butt come Monday morning when your envision says “0”.
Thanks for ruining my weekend. Worked hard on those Envisions. Been doing them for years anyway. Now I gotta worry about this sh*t all over again? Did exactly as I was told to do and more. All my scores in the 80s or high 70’s. I usually try to keep them in the mid 80’s anyway. They pull the plug on this one and its over. Good grief.
I heard from a home office friend that they were also going to see if they were all done in the last week of the month and also question if they were valid plans. I am even more worried about the ongoing administrative headaches at the home office. We continue to deal with clueless people at the call centers.
[quote=showmethemoney]If this true I can Envision hundreds of resignations very soon.
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If you put up with the BS to this point…what difference will this make?
been using envision for several years, i’m not worried.
that said, if they blow this...yeah, I really have a hard time seeing them reneg. Lots of info on infomax on the forefront. Last week info posted on when the money will be paid if you take a loan on it. personally, I have been doing Envision since what 04 or 05? And I began working in earnest on the forefront when they announced it. Some dudes I know just jammed in 50 plans in the last 2 weeks of June. Maybe thats a problem for them, dnt know. If they tell me mine no good then its bye bye time.
I have a meeting with our market manager tomorrow morning, I can’t imagine them doing that with all the other issues. That would be suicide. I remember posting stuff about my old firm on this site, oh wait, I don’t care about my old firm, but I love to see these million dollar producers who got their money from some other firm still talking smack. Get a life. Move on.
I believe the BM has them and showed them to the FA's who did the work.Well? Did you get Forefront numbers yet? I didnt think so.
I have a hard time ENVISIONING you guys still at WFC. It’s like dogs returning to their own vomit.
national sales told me today that BMs will have numbers AND THE TOOL THEY NEED TO APPROVE the work put into the plans, and then we will have our report w/our final tally. basically, it is up to your BM to determine if your plans are legit, or if they’re just BS thrown together for a check.
they did a total of 13,000 plans last year through june…they had 75,000 in june ALONE this year
Did everyone get their June 30th snapshot yet? I am hearing that they are finding ways not to pay all of it to you guys.
Did everyone get their June 30th snapshot yet? I am hearing that they are finding ways not to pay all of it to you guys.
Spoke to my regional guy today. They are expecting to get reports out to managers next week with items that are deficient. Apparently there are guys that had their assistants do these plans with made up birthdays, retirement dates, with all the same objectives etc. Brokers will get paid, on schedule for the plans that are not cobbled together and then given the opportunity to make the deficient plans correct and paid later on the balance. I point out asked if this was a way to get out of paying and he said no. Only time will tell, but he knows that I'm on the fence about moving and this would be it for me.
I do find it sad that guys like you are wishing that they screw us so you can justify your moves. You should just be happy with the check you took and where you landed. Pathetic.
Not wishing against you guys, I still have a lot of friends with WF. Just disappointing that corporate now loooks to screw the brokers once again.
Ever considered that the brokers were cheating the system so they are just making sure everything is legit? I believe what my regional told me. I also believe that you are only here to seek to validate your move. You should really get a new username, your past posts leave you with no credibility.
confirmed my numbers today. sweet check coming 9.15. now to drive home the balance of plans for the next snapshot.
BE PATIENT should change his name to BIG BULLSH!T