Zacko, we had it for a while too, then they did away with it in our region because someone complained about Leadership Team members knowing “what you’re doing”. After that we had VRIP, which was comm screen for each IR in the region.

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My all time favorite

That's a great question, I am glad you asked.

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Feel...Felt...Found

I know how you feel others have felt the same, but then they found.....that Jones was a really crappy place to work.

Dear Mr. Peanut,

Thanks for the backhanded apology.  I'm a crook, but I speak the truth. 

I can speak for myself.  One time at a Van Kampen Due Diligence meeting in Houston, my buddy was only showing up to the meetings he felt were important to his business.  The other time he was out on the phone or at the gym working out.  Greg Dosman (our Area leader at the time) called my buddy 6 weeks after it happend and inquired about his whereabouts at the Jones meetings (can sell date/introductions/what did you do b/4 jones..blah...blah).  My buddy said he was on the phone or at the gym.  Dosman said he would have to reimburse Van Kampen for missing some of the meetings.  They docked his commission check for one month almost $550. 

I have many more stories, I will post in future posts....keep tuned in.

I always hated those trips and regional meetings.  I could opt out of the trips, but if you didn’t show up for the meetings all hell would break loose. 

In addition to having to attend the worthless and tedious workshops the RL and other GP wannabees would tell us what to do on our own time.  They told the female IRs that we couldn't/shouldn't sit together at meetings and even at the "fabulous" (sarcasm alert) dinners we were told who to socialize with.  My husband hated those stupid award dinners (circle jerks is what he called them) and only came because I wanted to have at least one normal person to talk to. 

I got sent back to St Louis after my first year out because I had grown my office in some top percentile.  Whatever.  Doug Hill did an inspirational (not) speech to the IRs and spouses about how he schlocked bonds over and over to be the success he is.  My husband said "Are you effing kidding me ?!?"   I said ignore it...I do.   The St Louis Zoo was pretty nice, I must admit.  We had a private EDJ cocktail function at the Zoo after hours.

A vacation to me is when I DON"T have to be around people from work and don't have to discuss work.   I like to go where I want and when I want and not have big brother watching me to see if I am embarrassing the firm.  Screw that.   I also don't consider it a vacation to be around a bunch of irritating bratty children, but unfortunately EDJ was all about being a "family" and constantly trying to force togetherness.  My family is raised. I want adult activities.

Geez,

It sounds like their recruiting posters - freedom to build your business... and independent office..... has some strings attached.  But hey, shouldn't they have the right to do this after all their taking 60% of my pay and paying my BOA?

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My all time favorite

That's a great question, I am glad you asked.

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Feel...Felt...Found

I know how you feel others have felt the same, but then they found.....that Jones was a really crappy place to work.

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Now that's very funny... I appreciated that .

Babs - your husband has a terrible mouth. Boy, Jones really is a terrible place to work. I mean, trying to create a cohesive region, creating a family atmosphere for my “bratty children.” As far as the adult activities, was your husband looking for a real circle jerk? I’m sure you use these words with your clients… It really irks me when some FA puts on a fake persona to sell investments. I bet you’re a republican and a democrat all in the same day aren’t you.

Oh grow up, incredible.  I can create my own “family atmosphere”.  My son (I’m a single parent, living CL, geat stepdad BTW, not allowed to attend regionals) wasn’t allowed to come to the dinner where I won my first production award.  Some family.

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Greg Dosman (our Area leader at the time)

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That name is another blast from the past.  Talk about a talentless boob who kissed ass all the way to GP'dom.  Someone told me that he sort of got "demoted" into another role within the GP ranks.  I don't know if that is true or not.  I do know that if he ever left Jones that he couldn't get a job managing a 7-Eleven.  And to think he's knocking down a half mil or more pure year.  Absolutely unbelievable.

I was privy to a situation involving the GP discussed above where he actually told an IR's "partner" not only to leave the hotel where everyone was staying during a regional, but attempted to persuade the person to leave the geographical area.

HR did some fancy dancing afterwards. Jones is one of the only companies I can think off the top of my head that tries to inflict its bizarre morals on the troops. Part of the double speak. Bachman marries his secretary, and people turn the other cheek. An IR wants to bring their companion on a trip or a regional, and the moral police synchronize their GPS devices to watch over us.

Once again, proof that this company is seriously misguided. And they talk about culture.

[quote=Incredible Hulk]Babs - your husband has a terrible mouth. Boy, Jones really is a terrible place to work. I mean, trying to create a cohesive region, creating a family atmosphere for my "bratty children." As far as the adult activities, was your husband looking for a real circle jerk? I'm sure you use these words with your clients... It really irks me when some FA puts on a fake persona to sell investments. I bet you're a republican and a democrat all in the same day aren't you.[/quote]

Well, since you recognize yourself with the Bratty Children remark then you must understand how annoying it is to be forced into somebody else's idea of family.   I have a family and children, who are now grown.  I don't need to be crammed into yours.

I guess a cookie cutter lifestye in a cookie cutter office with a cookie cutter mind set and a cookie cutter portfolio for your clients works for you.   That is why they call you guys clones and talk about drinking the kool-aid.   If you can't take a little adult talk on this board, I wonder how you can possibly handle real life?

Incredible Hulk= big body, little mind

Dear Footsoldier,

You speak the truth.  The IR was in Yosemite with her partner and on the second day, Dosman told her to go home.  He is a right-wing Christian conservative and he felt like he was within his Area Leader duties to send her home. 

The funniest part was, that was the weekend they broke out with the inclusion videos.  HR reprimanded him.  John Bachman and Dosman had to write a letter of apology and Bachman came out and spoke to our clients in San Francisco as a token of Jones screwing it up.  From that point on, Jones has had to be a little more liberal with their policies on who can go on trips/regionals/etc. 

They do it on a case by case basis, now.  If you are the beneficiary of your partners IRA and life insurance policies, If you have a joint checking account and if you have lived together for an extended period of time and have kids together then they will allow a non-married couple to attend the events.

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Greg Dosman (our Area leader at the time)

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That name is another blast from the past.  Talk about a talentless boob who kissed ass all the way to GP'dom.  Someone told me that he sort of got "demoted" into another role within the GP ranks.  I don't know if that is true or not.  I do know that if he ever left Jones that he couldn't get a job managing a 7-Eleven.  And to think he's knocking down a half mil or more pure year.  Absolutely unbelievable.

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We heard a rumor that he was banished to "lower Siberia" (Retirement Plan Marketing) for playing the "My GP-nis is BIGGER than YOURS is!" game. (I think he slapped some IR around and then got called on it)

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My all time favorite

That's a great question, I am glad you asked.

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Feel...Felt...Found

I know how you feel others have felt the same, but then they found.....that Jones was a really crappy place to work.

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Now that's very funny... I appreciated that .

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 Thanks !

Spike-

It also depends on the initials after your name... like GP for example.

RL/GP in San Francisco is not married to her partner but has ALWAYS been allowed to bring him along as 'spouse'. No one acutally ASKS- but those who know her... know.

DOSMAN- got sent to lower Siberia for a little infraction. (Cover your eyes Hulk and any other 'Green' thing) He covered up a problem for a GP , then LIED about it. Yes. UNETHICAL. Lying. BUT, becoming a GP is ALOT like making your bones in the Mafia. ONce you are in, you are in for life.

It sounds like Mr. Dosman and Mr. Tim McCoy are back in the same department again (Retirement Plan Marketing).  Dosman is a JOKE! 

I remember going to dinner with McCoy in Germany and him bringing sales literature to dinner on a diversification trip.  He talked for 3 1/2 hours and my wife couldn't believe he could talk about the business so much.  McCoy has to be the biggest sicophant of them all.  He never was an IR and never knocked on a door and made it all the way to GP status. 

Sounds like the GP/RL in SF must have a life insurance policy with her partner. Or real estate. I wonder who approves this stuff now that Weddle is managing partner.

Maybe its Brett Campbell who is in charge of firm behavior now. I mean administration. Wouldn't you like to be a fly on the wall during one of those conversations.

FOOT SOLDIER SAID:

 Wouldn't you like to be a fly on the wall during one of those conversations.

I WAS a fly on the wall, HOW do you think I KNOW these things, anyway?

Maybe I should change my name to SUPERFLY ....

Spiked, and others for that matter…How do you find out what is in your Call path id file? What is used now since the old green screens are dying off? Do individuals have the ability to look at what is in their own file?

p-nut,

What's wrong getting a little paranoid over what your employer has on you?