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Whomitmay, sorry, I’ve been at the golf course and 19th hole. Sorry I missed all the potential carpal-tunnel of staying here. I also apologize that I have no idea what you’re babbling about. “Aloha”, “Shalom”??? WTF? I admit to being uni-lingual (English, in case you aren’t clear). What, precisely do you have to say? We seem to be having a failure to communicate, As I’ve said, I don’t speak Moron, just English.
Maybe if you stopped thinking that you were the only one who has anything to say you'd be able to recognize a joke, putz!
Did it never occur to you that, while yes, words mean things, sometimes the same word means the exact opposite of itself.
In this case the words spelled R-E-S-I-G-N can mean to quit and to continue your employment (resign and re-sign).
Other words that mean their opposites include Aloha and Shalom both of which mean both hello and goodbye. Therefore, if you say Aloha to your BOM, he doesn't know if you're saying Hello or Goodbye.
Take the gigantic chip off your shoulder Broker010, that might make room so that you can carry your head there instead of where you carry it now!
Whom, No one misunderstood that you were attempting to make a joke. The problem is that your jokes simpy aren’t whitty, funny, entertaining, nor to they make mush sense. I’m sorry that I challenge you, but you’re about 1/1,000th as smart as you think you are and that is a quality most people find repulsive. I’m trying to help you learn a lesson. I fear it may be a lost cause…Look, I’m here for one very specific reason. To get one specific question answered (I refer, aginst my better judgement and with great fear of yor reprisal, to this thread’s title). I have been led to believe that this question will be answered by the end of this week. At that instant, I will take my leave from these forum permanently and you’ll be free to lord over them unchecked for the rest of your days. Just hang in there!!
Oh, my gosh! There’s a bunch of typing errors on my last post, I’m gonna get it now!
[quote=Reggin] [quote=bullmrkt] actually, I make more than most. I live well, and never
complain about what sign hangs on the door, as i know I will always live
well. [/quote]
Are you a failed broker or just someone that took many "management"
classes in college?[/quote]
Actually, I was an 800k producer for Merrill when they asked me to give up my book and go into management, so no I wasn't a failed broker! I just like to help others succeed.
[quote=bullmrkt]
[quote=Reggin] [quote=bullmrkt] actually, I make more than most. I live well, and never
complain about what sign hangs on the door, as i know I will always live
well. [/quote]
Are you a failed broker or just someone that took many "management"
classes in college?[/quote]
Actually, I was an 800k producer for Merrill when they asked me to give up my book and go into management, so no I wasn't a failed broker! I just like to help others succeed.
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If that's true, you're an idiot. A total complete moron. I have a feeling that you're lying, however.
think what you will, I make plenty of money, live a great life and have time for my family. Quality of life is key.
" I'm sorry that I challenge you, but you're about 1/1,000th as smart as you think you are and that is a quality most people find repulsive."
You have no idea how smart I think I am.
But I am smart enough to spot a phoney.
Baller,
They're never funny when you have to explain them.
[quote=bullmrkt]think what you will, I make plenty of money, live a great life and have time for my family. Quality of life is key. [/quote]
How will that quality change when some dumbass broker screws up and the firm needs to make an example of you?
Bllmrkt,
Let's say that everything you said is true.
What is surprising is that you don't see the facts in the "You take the risk for none of the reward" statement. At this exact moment there could be any one of the guys in your branch doing some stupid little thing that will get your ticket pulled!
Go look in the "legal Issues" forum for RRBDLawyer's website links. See how many BOMs get a "Failure to supervise" fine that can put that nice house on the MLS pages.
I don't wish you no bad luck baby, but, maybe if you had addressed the risk portion of the poster's snark instead of the reward part, we'd think that you were a real manager instead of someone who "failed up" as so many ML ers have done (sold their book to move to another firm where they are given a "sales Manager" position that turns into a manager position over time) much to the detriment to the industry in general.
[quote=Whomitmayconcer]
Maybe if you stopped thinking that you were the only one who has anything to say you’d be able to recognize a joke, putz!
Did it never occur to you that, while yes, words mean things, sometimes the same word means the exact opposite of itself.
In this case the words spelled R-E-S-I-G-N can mean to quit and to continue your employment (resign and re-sign).
Other words that mean their opposites include Aloha and Shalom both of which mean both hello and goodbye. Therefore, if you say Aloha to your BOM, he doesn't know if you're saying Hello or Goodbye.
Take the gigantic chip off your shoulder Broker010, that might make room so that you can carry your head there instead of where you carry it now!
[/quote]Maybe if YOU stopped for a second with the bluster and realized that not everything on this board is about YOU and how much attention you can garner, you'd realize why your attempt at humor was not so well received.
To be frank, your play on "resign" and the dual meanings of "Aloha" and "Shalom" was one of your better ones. But this board, and particularly this thread, are not about "YOU". An effective communicator focuses on his audience. Guys and gals on this thread in particular are likely to be VERY concerned about the direction of their career and how this "merger" will affect them and their clients. They are also quite likely to be new to this board, eager to gain insights(or at least consolation), and quite possibly not accustomed to the free-wheeling atmosphere of internet bulletin boards.
In the last couple of weeks their whole world has been shaken up pretty good. They do not have the luxury you and I have of being able to reasonably assume a stable business platform for the forseeable future. Put in the vernacular, they are a little 'freaked out'.
So, when they sit down at the table and you start off with a serving of "esoteric puns", you shouldn't be surprised when they open up a big can of "eff yu" for the second course.
Maybe you were just trying to relieve tension. Believe it or not, this has nothing to do with other disagreements you and I have had. I mean you no mailce, nor do I want to start off some extended debate where you try to 'beat the snot of of me'. I'm just trying to point out how you are coming across to others in this situation.
Shalom.
whomit, Did you give someone else your password because your last post actually made sense.
This is apparently a stupid question, but could you guys just set up a new topic... hmmm.. perhaps "Senseless flaming of others", and take your chatter there?
You aren't actually contributing to the topic at hand, if that matters and anonymously calling someone whom you don't know a moron and them calling you a moron back seems like a pretty low priority activity for all you big hitters, what with the $1,000 a minute production, weekday golf and nice houses, etc...
You all sound more like kids dreaming about what you want to be when you grow up and are demonstrating quite frequently that it hasn't happened yet.
I know... silly me.
[quote=charliefoxpapa]
This is apparently a stupid question, but could you guys just set up a new topic... hmmm.. perhaps "Senseless flaming of others", and take your chatter there?
You aren't actually contributing to the topic at hand, if that matters and anonymously calling someone whom you don't know a moron and them calling you a moron back seems like a pretty low priority activity for all you big hitters, what with the $1,000 a minute production, weekday golf and nice houses, etc...
You all sound more like kids dreaming about what you want to be when you grow up and are demonstrating quite frequently that it hasn't happened yet.
I know... silly me.
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Milo, you're a jackass.
Since the deal was announced there were no less than 29 new threads added to this forum to "serve" the "interests' of the suffering masses of AGE brokers.
Broker010 has gone from frenetic news hound, to rabble rouser, to self annointed elder statesman of the AGE fora, to AGE Postaholic (a term I coined).
Do I have a dog in this fight? Yeah, I do, at least I have a dog I have a bet on and I want him to win. That dog is WB. It doesn't make a big difference to me but I feel a charity towards them as I find them to be an excellent partner. I can't go telling these guys that they ought to join Wachovia Finet because I don't know what their availability to that program will be (I doubt that there will be plenty, but I did advise AGErs that if they get the chance they should at least collect the ticket so that they will be grandfathered as some of the Pru people I've met over the years were.)
And then there is the blanket advice to go Indy at all. I am of the opinion that Indy is an exclusive club (or at least should be) and not an "employer of last resort" for a ton of disgruntled producers. I think that such an inflow will cast an unfavorable light on my segment of the industry. For the vast majority of people, I don't think that Indy is in their cards, and I do think that going indy from AGE just because is a VERY BAD MOVE!
I've expressed the "Devil's Advocate" position that there is wisdom in staying with the firm and growing your book (as well as having given the advice that it could be very bad for you if you talked to your clients about leaving and letting people know that you did so. You are still an employee of the firm that you work for, and you are bound contractually NOT to undermine the interests of your firm.) and that there is plenty of time to make changes down the road.
So I didn't "start" with "esoteric puns". I've been another side of this discussion since the very begining.
I really don't care if Broker010 likes that or not. This is still a public forum and all are welcome to comment on it, just because it says AGE in the title doesn't mean the thread is exclusive.
Of course I am. And you're obviously a bigger man for calling me one.
Thanks for the laugh.
Excitement turned to Frustration which has now turned to Anger....
This is all part of the transition process. Being a part of one of these mergers in the past I would ask all of you AGE people who like to talk about how well they serve their clients...how well do you serve yourself? Have you truly done your due dilligence? How many of you have gotten on the phone and scheduled a meeting with a local WB advisor? After all you are going to be working with that person soon. Rather than sitting around waiting for the retention package, which I guarantee will disappoint, find out what and who you are actually going to be representing. WB went after AGE for their assets, not the fact that AGE is the largest distribution arm for the American Funds....quite frankly, WB wants to move those assets to its mutual fund wrap program called Fundsource, which is probably a good idea...every insurance guy and bank broker is pitching the American Funds....only the WB people have the talent and expertise of the Fundsource team, which I believe is headed up by Bert White...one of the brightest and most talented minds in the business...
If I were you, figure on a retention package of 20-50% on the high end....probably nothing for anyone under 300k in production. If you can live with those #'s then begin to forge ahead....begin to "sell" your qualified money on the idea of diversifying some of the $ away from the American Funds into some of the best no-load and institutional classes around....Bert White can even get fund mgrs to create a special class of share specifically for his platform...
No I don't work for WB anymore, but there was alot I did like about the firm....it was just time for me to do my own thing....
I have family and great friends at AGE so I want the best for all....
"yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, today is a gift...that's why it's called the present...!!!
Good Luck and Godspeed
[quote=OMICO]
How many of you have gotten on the phone and scheduled a meeting with a local WB advisor?
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As a matter of fact, I did meet with a WB advisor. Everything you just posted is bull$hit.