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What if we were sold off to UBS… What would a retention look like in that case? Another 100+ days to hear anything??
Danny said on the latest call we would hear about retention at the end of this month or the very first of next. He didn’t even stutter…
"press would have a field day with no retention" Are you kidding, thats 100% opposite of the the thought process. WFC stock has dropped from 30 to 17 in a couple weeks, B of A from 30 to 7, etc etc..Wells had no intention of paying retention the last 60 days, what has changed in the last week to make you believe, they are "taking their time". They are "very slow not stupid." Your comments are the same that guys threw out here 2 months ago, think most of those guys have already come to grips with reality.Retention will be here. Just as Danny said, dont read too much into it. I am a 1.2 mill AGE producer and will admit 400k and less may not receive retention but Wells will keep larger producers. News on BofA/ML retention and MS/SB retention will put Wells in position of doing retention. While Wells is very slow they arent stupid, press would have a field day with “No retention” and Wells knows that. I am as frustrated as others with the time it is taking but it will come, then we can all focus 100% on clients without cheching the latest post or latest rumor. Unfortunately we may never see another Ben Edwards, but a retention in our pocket and the financial backing of Wells with our clients will help in getting us through the market bloodbath
Fritz,
Were you on the call or not?? I don't know why he would have said it if there was no retention, you don't create new barriers for no reason.[quote=Tincup]Fritz,
Were you on the call or not?? I don't know why he would have said it if there was no retention, you don't create new barriers for no reason.[/quote] What call, but if youre talking about DL he has been trying, and I assume will keep trying until they absolutely tell him to stop it. I do not know why WFC does not want to pay retention, maybe they need the money, maybe they dont think brokerage deserves it, maybe they dont want the bad press, who knows. Our office lost 3 guys today, cant imagine how many guys have left the might have stayed. But it is what it is, if they were worried about guys leaving retention would have been delivered 60 days ago. MS and SB will have paperwork in 10 days. Maybe they are trying to sell the brokerage, that would be as good a guess as anything.What call? Who do you work for? Fritz you seem to be incredibly pessimistic. Maybe you are a 400k or less broker and wishing you were a mill dollar producer and part of the retention. If there was no retention Danny would not have said “Be patient, and done read anything into time frame”. You think he is going to say be patient then drop the bomb next conference call? You sound like an idiot
Well, I guess there will be no retention. And I dont think Ludeman has
done a damn thing to help at all. If he wanted to help, he could start
by being honest. He was basically forced to address the retention issue
on the conf call as Mary M blackberry was about to self destruct from
overload of retention email questions. He gave it less than 2 minutes
and said maybe we know more in a few weeks. What kind of crap answer
was that? Same lame answer for the last 2 months. Then I believe Mary
was trying to allay concerns and tell us not to read too much into the
fact they dont know yet??? The guys that leave, best of luck. Those
that stay because they cant leave for whatever reason…they wont
forget getting hosed. The conclusion must be there wont be retention
paid. WFC wants to be some kind of an industry maverick and start a new
precedent.
Be Patient…please spare us. We are 3 months into this. We were patient. We are have no more patience left. I wonder how many left today?
If you are out of patience leave. I can only assume your savings or income is only allowing you patience until end of January where as I CAN wait till announcement arrives
[quote=BE PATIENT]If you are out of patience leave. I can only assume your savings or income is only allowing you patience until end of January where as I CAN wait till announce
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Be Patient were you part of this, think I read 1 guy did not show the day of lift offThere is a Jim Hayes FA call this Thursday! What will we hear then?
Plus here is some, maybe, bad news for Merrill brokers
The announcement early this morning by the Treasury Department and the
Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. that the government will invest $20
billion into Bank of America Corp. of Charlotte, N.C., through a
purchase of preferred shares adds uncertainty to the planned retention
bonuses that BofA is scheduled to pay brokers at recently acquired
Merrill Lynch & Co. Inc.
The first chunk of that money is slated to go to some brokers Jan. 23, said one industry source, who asked not to be named.
That source pegged the total amount set aside to retain New York-based Merrill’s almost 17,000 brokers at $3.6 billion.
Selena
Morris, a Merrill spokeswoman, said it was unclear whether any of the
government money would be used to pay brokers’ retention bonuses. She
also would not comment on the dollar amount the firm was committing to
retain its advisers.
The Treasury earlier invested $15 billion of TARP money in Bank of America.
Also,
the Treasury and FDIC will also give protection against the possibility
of losses of $118 billion in loans, securities backed by residential
and commercial real estate loans, and other such assets, all of which
have been marked to current market value. This is the second time in
five months that Merrill’s registered reps and advisers have seen their
firm pulled from a potential brink.
As Wall Street was collapsing
in mid-September, Bank of America announced it would buy Merrill for
$50 billion. Merrill, like many other former Wall Street titans, has
been bleeding cash. It lost a record $15.3 billion in the last quarter.
Never have truer words been posted here. (I’m assuming you were speaking metaphorically).
[quote=Ferris Bueller]please edit that, it is a gigantic mess[/quote]
YEAHYEAH I got it. It previewed clean.
I get it, I am "negative", but would you say that if BAC can't give retention since they got TARP funds it would effect all the others also..since they all have gotten TARP??I could only imagine if they decided to pull the BACML retention. Brokers would leave in droves.
Amen. Wells is the deep pockets on the street right now and will be very careful and cautious, but Ferris is right. They could write a check for retention tommorow and wouldnt affect them a bit. Hell, they got Wachovia for free
what is up with wells. I mean bac announce the name of the firm for merrill and retention within weeks and so has wachovia, and bear stearns. at this point freakin forget the retention and give us a freakin name so I can start prospecting again.