Why do firms like former military so much
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Look ... I've got a star hanging in my window, and soon I'll have two more. I support you, and can't believe the sacrifices you've (in the general sense of veterans) made so idiots can sit at their computers and waste pixels. On top of that, you (specifically) make generally lucid comments that get my head nodding and I haven't seen word one from Mr. Brains worth repeating. You've earned the right to have your finger any damn place you want it. All that said, you shouldn't lose all sense of decorum, drop f bombs and then tell people not to put their noses into comments you made in a professional forum. Morean made basically the same points you did, without vulgarity. End of the day, I wouldn't write something here I wouldn't want my clients or superiors to read. Your choice I suppose.
Was that meant for you? No, so just keep on moving.
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I respect what our Armed Forces have done. My Grandfather was a Ranger and stormed the beach at Normandy and survived...My Uncle was a Marine...Brother-In-Law graduated from West Point. I know that your comments were not directed at me...and I know that you'll agree and others will agree that this is a professional forum and the individuals that read these posts should not have to be subjected to you having a meltdown and dropping F bombs. Reading that post is offensive.[quote=on my own]Army13A-
I respect what our Armed Forces have done. My Grandfather was a Ranger and stormed the beach at Normandy and survived...My Uncle was a Marine...Brother-In-Law graduated from West Point. I know that your comments were not directed at me...and I know that you'll agree and others will agree that this is a professional forum and the individuals that read these posts should not have to be subjected to you having a meltdown and dropping F bombs. Reading that post is offensive.[/quote]Irony. I know this post was not directed at me, but I feel the need to respond. You may have found Army's post offensive. But it is likely that he found the post by vbrainy just as offensive, and thus responded in a way that expressed that disgust.
I, too found vbrainy's post to be offensive. The first thing I typed was similar to Army's. I erased it for a more moderated tone.
Once again, I will state that "knowing somebody" in the military or who is a veteran is not the same as actually being a war veteran. Respect for the Armed Forces is not the same as being in the Armed forces.
Vbrainy's post was not necessary, and did not move the conversation forward. It was said in a casual way that is insulting to most who have served. The implication was that military people are not successful in this business. If you follow the line of reasoning from that, it means that firms are making a mistake in hiring them and any experiences they had in the military invalidate their ability to make it as an FA.
It doesn't take a genius to figure out that Vbrainy was trying to put down members of the military.
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[quote=on my own]Army13A-
I respect what our Armed Forces have done. My Grandfather was a Ranger and stormed the beach at Normandy and survived...My Uncle was a Marine...Brother-In-Law graduated from West Point. I know that your comments were not directed at me...and I know that you'll agree and others will agree that this is a professional forum and the individuals that read these posts should not have to be subjected to you having a meltdown and dropping F bombs. Reading that post is offensive.[/quote]Irony. I know this post was not directed at me, but I feel the need to respond. You may have found Army's post offensive. But it is likely that he found the post by vbrainy just as offensive, and thus responded in a way that expressed that disgust.
I, too found vbrainy's post to be offensive. The first thing I typed was similar to Army's. I erased it for a more moderated tone.
Once again, I will state that "knowing somebody" in the military or who is a veteran is not the same as actually being a war veteran. Respect for the Armed Forces is not the same as being in the Armed forces.
Vbrainy's post was not necessary, and did not move the conversation forward. It was said in a casual way that is insulting to most who have served. The implication was that military people are not successful in this business. If you follow the line of reasoning from that, it means that firms are making a mistake in hiring them and any experiences they had in the military invalidate their ability to make it as an FA.
It doesn't take a genius to figure out that Vbrainy was trying to put down members of the military.
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MLgone, thanks for your response. I don't think "I'm the man" in any way but I just hate when individuals do what vbrainy did.
LockEDJ, I understand what you're saying and be more careful in how I respond to idiots on this forum.
On my own, you have no idea where we're coming from buddy. Like Moraen said, walking in our shoes is different than knowing someone who did. F bombs are offensive to you, disrespecting Vets is offensive to me.
Relax, breathe deep. Oh, and do some prospecting and open some accounts while you are at it.
NEVER said anything negative about our country or our military. Just that "I have never met a military type who was successful" in this business. This business is about building and maintaining with wealthy people who value your services. REALIZE that not every client will like you or that you will like every client. This is a great profession, but unless you can tone it down and focus on what is important, you may as well go back to the army that you love.The implications were negative. There was no reason for your post. Once again, the question was NOT, “hey does anybody know any successful military-type people”.
If you were not responding to the OP, what was your purpose in what you wrote? In your more recent post, where you say that your father did not serve but lived an honorable, productive life, you then expressed an opinion on the type of people we should have in the military, when you have no clue what it takes.
Still, even this most recent post, you never explicitly state that there is anything wrong with our military, but your implications are clear.
You don’t like the military. I will not try to guess why, but it is obvious that you don’t.
I think Army is doing quite well without your useless advice vbrainy. And if we wants to express his thoughts on something you said on a forum, he is free to. Just like you are free to voice your obvious prejudice against American military personnel.
“you may as well go back to the army that you love” is so blatantly anti-military I don’t even know where to begin.
Just because someone doesn’t explicitly state something doesn’t mean we can’t figure out what you mean.
Never met a military type in this business who was successful.
As a veteran, I could choose to be insulted and angered by this statement. But I choose not to be. All it stated was that he never met a military type who was successful. How many military types has he met? How does he determine success? And who really gives a sh-t? During the Vietnam era, and for a time after, military were treated like crap. It's relatively recently that this has changed. Particularly since the draft ended. The underlying question is, does military experience help or hurt? I believe that it usually helps, and should increase your chance of success in any endeavor.
Maybe we should be a little more Buddhist and not take offence so quickly. The OP may be deluded, but who isn't?
Honestly people. Grow up. Didn’t you develop a thick skin in the military? Well, you will need one on this job.
I wish everyone in this profession success. The skills that you need to succeed in this job can come from many areas. This is NOT a black and white job. Why do firms like military? I have not seen that preference for Financial Advisors. I have seen a preference for military types as trainers. (Those who can't, teach) oh, and I have NEVER seen a military type reach the top ranks in this business. I have seen a couple flunk out and become Branch Managers or the like. YOU WANT THE TRUTH!!! YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!![quote=vbrainy]Honestly people. Grow up. Didn’t you develop a thick skin in the military? Well, you will need one on this job. I developed a severe paranoia that causes me to be highly alert at all times. Thick skins aren’t required among brothers. You completely open yourself up. You will never understand.
This is NOT a black and white job. Why do firms like military? I have not seen that preference for Financial Advisors. I have seen a preference for military types as trainers. (Those who can't, teach) This is an idiotic statement. There is a lady in my state (Logistics officer for SF) that was not only a Top Gun at Merrill, but started her own brokerage firm.
oh, and I have NEVER seen a military type reach the top ranks in this business. I have seen a couple flunk out and become Branch Managers or the like. Your limited experience notwithstanding, out of the top 50 indy advisors last year precisely twenty are veterans.
YOU WANT THE TRUTH!!! YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!! The truth is you have no clue what you are talking about. In either sense. You think that Army is angry and violent. You are clueless and you purposefully insulted members of the military in a backhanded manner (you still are!). It might be time to put a little "gr" in your attitude.
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Drop and give me 20.
Or better yet, put your money where your mouth is. Bring in some assets and do some revenue.[quote=vbrainy]Drop and give me 20.
Or better yet, put your money where your mouth is. Bring in some assets and do some revenue.[/quote]Army was right.
What a douche.
Go fcuk yourself.
What was the question? “Why does the industry like military folks so much?”
Because you need a pension or a working spouse to survice the first three years!I know nothing about the military being preferred or not. I hope they are. I never served and owe them a huge debt for their service. I live near a base and see what comes back from our various wars. It kills me when I think of those kids coming home in pieces.
I thank them all.amen Gaddock
Do firms consider your service as a janitor as a feather in your cap?
Guys, I know what vbrainy’s problem is. “Jody got his girl and is gone”. If you have to ask about that you wouldn’t understand.
Anyone here not willing to salute our former and current servicepeople should be stripped of their license. PERIOD. Its time to get some respect in your scuzzy little disgusting fatbodies.[quote=vbrainy] Drop and give me 20.
Or better yet, put your money where your mouth is. Bring in some assets and do some revenue.[/quote
You’re such a turd. Better yet, I would love to put my fist where your mouth is but that would be too easy. Jody definitely got the best of him, hence all the animosity towards military.
[quote=Bud Fox]Guys, I know what vbrainy’s problem is. “Jody got his girl and is gone”. If you have to ask about that you wouldn’t understand.
Anyone here not willing to salute our former and current servicepeople should be stripped of their license. PERIOD. Its time to get some respect in your scuzzy little disgusting fatbodies.[/quote][quote=NOVA]What was the question? “Why does the industry like military folks so much?”
Because you need a pension or a working spouse to survice the first three years![/quote] True that.See you try to have an intelligent conversation and they result to name calling and threats of violence. Childish. Got to learn to use your brains folks.
With all due respect to the honorable men and women who have served in our military.