[quote=Put Trader]

[quote=menotellname]

...said the white male, racist, homophobic.

[quote=Put Trader] [quote=Put Trader] [quote=menotellname]

...said the white male, racist, homophobic.

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Why are "They" so intellectually vacant that all they can muster is "Why you be a racist dats what you be?"
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I had to handle something in Detroit--sorry for the half assed post.

Mojo was mocking you, numbnuts.  Why is it that stupid people always kneejerk react like you did?
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modern psychology shows that affect is actually highly regular and that it is cognition that introduces unpredictability into behavior. Unconscious behaviors generally occur in fully predictable patterns unless consciousness overrides them. As a result, humans are less predictable than rats. 

Why is everybody concerned with the yield on annuities?  How about doing some planning with annuities?

The problem is that many insurance agents and some brokers who are desperate to make sales will sell the rate, instead of the benefits or planning uses, because it is easy.  The clients, especially the older ones who are also desperate right now for income, hear the rate and take the hook. 

Mortality swaps have nothing to do with this topic of why and when an agent would offer an annuity to clients. Roger's tactics when confused about how to conduct a logical discussion is to throw irrelevant terminoligy into the air.  ........I swear to God, the next time I watch North By Northwest, I'm rooting for the plane to take off Cary Grants head.

There are plenty of appropriate situations to recommend annuities and many more when it is not appropriate. In case no one remembers, this is the rookie sub-board.  It's too bad that a discussion that could have been of value has descended into insults, pull my finger jokes and now racism. 

[quote=menotellname]

modern psychology shows
that affect is actually highly regular and that it is cognition that
introduces unpredictability into behavior. Unconscious behaviors
generally occur in fully predictable patterns unless consciousness
overrides them. As a result, humans are less predictable than rats. 

[quote=babbling looney]Mortality swaps have nothing to do with this topic of why and when an agent would offer an annuity to clients.[/quote]

First, Meno brougth it up, not I, which makes you a woman who Cannot Understand Normal Thinking.

Second, the fact that you don't see how these subjects intertwine proves that you don't even know what a mortality swap is (and I'm not surprised, you've probably never heard of them, much less designed them and implemented them -- something I've been doing since long before the ink on your license was dry).

Perhaps you should go back to the bank from whence you came, little girl.

[quote=Roger Thornhill]

(and I’m not surprised, you’ve probably

never heard of them, much less designed them and implemented them –

something I’ve been doing since long before the ink on your license was

dry).

the fact that you don't see how these subjects intertwine

Then why don't you 'splain it to us O Enlightened One.  How do mortality swaps and hedging mortality risk on a corporate and pension plan level affect the average agent in his/her recommendation and suitability review in the sales process.  When should average Joe agent take into consideration and explain what an insurance companies arbitrage of mortality risk is to Ma and Pa Fricket who are contemplating investing their life savings?  How will this impact their decision?

[quote=Roger Thornhill]

First, Meno brougth it up, not I, which makes you a woman who Cannot Understand Normal Thinking.

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Isn't it time for the moderator to step in an delete this post, and perhaps ban Roger?

[quote=Put Trader] [quote=Roger Thornhill]

(and I’m not surprised, you’ve probably never heard of them, much less designed them and implemented them – something I’ve been doing since long before the ink on your license was dry).

[/quote]Your webpage–it’s not even a real website–says that you’re 35 years old. That would me that AT BEST you’ve been “around” since the early 1990s.Nothing but a bull market in life–the old gag line, “He was born on third base and thought he hit a triple.”[/quote]

His online CV says he “began his career in the financial services industry” (READ: started making coffee in Dad’s office) in 1991. The piker’s not only a liar, he’s a newbie liar.

[quote=stanwbrown][quote=Put Trader] [quote=Roger Thornhill]

(and I’m not surprised, you’ve probably never heard of them, much less designed them and implemented them – something I’ve been doing since long before the ink on your license was dry).

[/quote]Your webpage–it’s not even a real website–says that you’re 35 years old. That would me that AT BEST you’ve been “around” since the early 1990s.Nothing but a bull market in life–the old gag line, “He was born on third base and thought he hit a triple.”[/quote]

His online CV says he “began his career in the financial services industry” (READ: started making coffee in Dad’s office) in 1991. The piker’s not only a liar, he’s a newbie liar.

[/quote]

Does your manager at Morgan Stanley know that you spend all day playing on the internet?

[quote=annuity guy][quote=stanwbrown][quote=Put Trader] [quote=Roger Thornhill]

(and I’m not surprised, you’ve probably never heard of them, much less designed them and implemented them – something I’ve been doing since long before the ink on your license was dry).

[/quote]Your webpage–it’s not even a real website–says that you’re 35 years old. That would me that AT BEST you’ve been “around” since the early 1990s.Nothing but a bull market in life–the old gag line, “He was born on third base and thought he hit a triple.”[/quote]

His online CV says he “began his career in the financial services industry” (READ: started making coffee in Dad’s office) in 1991. The piker’s not only a liar, he’s a newbie liar.

[/quote]

Does your manager at Morgan Stanley know that you spend all day playing on the internet?

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He sure does, Roger. And so does my manager at Merrill and my manager at Smith Barney, and my manager at UBS.

So, Roger, did you have a point?

[quote=stanwbrown][quote=annuity guy][quote=stanwbrown][quote=Put Trader] [quote=Roger Thornhill]

(and I'm not surprised, you've probably never heard of them, much less designed them and implemented them -- something I've been doing since long before the ink on your license was dry).

[/quote]

Your webpage--it's not even a real website--says that you're 35 years old.  That would me that AT BEST you've been "around" since the early 1990s.

Nothing but a bull market in Brent's life--the old gag line, "He was born on third base and thought he hit a triple."
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His online CV says he "began his career in the financial services industry" (READ: started making coffee in Dad's office) in 1991. The piker's not only a liar, he's a newbie liar.

[/quote]

Does your manager at Morgan Stanley know that you spend all day playing on the internet?

[/quote]

He sure does, Roger. And so does my manager at Merrill and my manager at Smith Barney, and my manager at UBS. 

So, Roger, did you have a point?

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It's funny. Your IP address says nothing about ML, SB, or UBS. Only MS. I'm sure your manager is going to be proud when he sees how many posts you've done from the firm's server.

[quote=Put Trader]

[quote=Mojo]



I agree to answer your question honestly and you agree to answer mine
with complete candor.



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As I have said before, I am not going to engage in a game of twenty questions, or even one question, designed as a "Gotcha.“



What is on the table is a question regarding your sense of
professionalism.  What is also on the table is my answer to the
same question.



Essentially all I am asking is if you agree with me or not. 
Surely you’re able to come up with something along those lines–it’s
not that hard, you either do or your don’t.



How about this.  If you can explain how linking your business
practice to something such as that “Booty Call” piece is a sign of a
mature, clear thinking, adult let me know–otherwise I will conclude
that you too agree that it’s anything but a sign of mature, clear,
thinking adult.



Fair enough?

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Yes. Fair enough.



I don’t completely understand the “Booty Call” link reference. I know
what a booty call is. If there is a place on the internet where one can
go and line up to make and recieve a “booty call” it should be a
runaway success. Why it would be linked to a professional website? It
doesn’t bother me enough to point, click and search to find out. You,
and your sycophantically motivated team, seem to be on the job cranking
out the details for the “white paper” - (a present for our resident
Senorita Mensa) - I look forward to what hopes to be a good read. Be
sure to reward the minions - maybe a night at a local rest stop, some
"sloe-gin”, and one classic Texas Rambler would be appropriate for a
deserving flock (please don’t send any white papers).



My sense of professionalism would not be found on a table that includes
a meal of stuffed-chickensheet, brandied duck and goose-livered pute’
dishes that serve to reconcile or satisfy a hunger for "outing"
someone.

Annuity Guy,

Stanwbrowneye thinks I'm you, or you're me, or maybe he's just high.

[quote=annuity guy][quote=stanwbrown][quote=annuity guy][quote=stanwbrown][quote=Put Trader] [quote=Roger Thornhill]

(and I'm not surprised, you've probably never heard of them, much less designed them and implemented them -- something I've been doing since long before the ink on your license was dry).

[/quote]

Your webpage--it's not even a real website--says that you're 35 years old.  That would me that AT BEST you've been "around" since the early 1990s.

Nothing but a bull market in Brent's life--the old gag line, "He was born on third base and thought he hit a triple."
[/quote]

His online CV says he "began his career in the financial services industry" (READ: started making coffee in Dad's office) in 1991. The piker's not only a liar, he's a newbie liar.

[/quote]

Does your manager at Morgan Stanley know that you spend all day playing on the internet?

[/quote]

He sure does, Roger. And so does my manager at Merrill and my manager at Smith Barney, and my manager at UBS. 

So, Roger, did you have a point?

[/quote]

It's funny. Your IP address says nothing about ML, SB, or UBS. Only MS. I'm sure your manager is going to be proud when he sees how many posts you've done from the firm's server.

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Sure, Roger, you have my IP address AND it details where I am. Does it physically hurt to be such a putz, or is it just a constant dull headache sort of thing?

BTW, you figure doing this sort of thing causes people to forget your multiple personas and your "I get 7.5%" sense of ethics?

[quote=menotellname][quote=Mojo] [quote=menotellname]

Why is everybody concerned with the yield on annuities?  How about doing some planning with annuities?  Do a Google search for "insurance", "annuity", and "arbitrage".

Pikers...

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Why is everyone so concerned about the disproportionate amount of blacks in non-combat units? How about doing some urban planning? Do a Google search for "gay marriage", "Civil Liberties Act of 1964", and "HIV/AIDS and Down Low."

Mensa (Senorita, mis amigos le encantan escuchar su nombre en espanol - Muchas gracias "genius")...

Buena suerte.
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...said the white male, racist, homophobic.

You don’t even know who you’re responding to anymore. Senility is taking hold of your brain!

[quote=stanwbrown]

Sure,

Roger, you have my IP address AND it details where I am. Does it

physically hurt to be such a putz, or is it just a constant dull

headache sort of thing?

BTW, you figure doing this sort of thing causes people to forget your multiple personas and your “I get 7.5%” sense of ethics?

[quote=babbling looney]Then why don't you 'splain it to us O Enlightened One.  How do mortality swaps and hedging mortality risk on a corporate and pension plan level affect the average agent in his/her recommendation and suitability review in the sales process.  When should average Joe agent take into consideration and explain what an insurance companies arbitrage of mortality risk is to Ma and Pa Fricket who are contemplating investing their life savings?  How will this impact their decision?[/quote]

I was right, you don't even know what a mortality swap is. Now you're talking about pension plans, which have nothing to do with mortality swaps. This subject is beyond your ability at this stage of your career.

[quote=Put Trader] [quote=stanwbrown]

Sure, Roger, you have my IP address AND it details where I am. Does it physically hurt to be such a putz, or is it just a constant dull headache sort of thing?

BTW, you figure doing this sort of thing causes people to forget your multiple personas and your “I get 7.5%” sense of ethics?

[/quote]I do think it would probably be a good idea to avoid the site–he may have the ability to back out your IP address and start to stalk you in the real world.Dealing with this guy is like unwrapping an onion–layer after layer of the same thing. Roger Thornhill is Rick Blaine, who is also in the real world, who appears to also be Annuity Guy on this forum.That whole TGP website got started back in December. If you started such a site you’d have a few friends “join” in order to give it some gravitas–but what if those friends were not contributing?Next you’d join yourself, again and again and hold dialogs with yourself.Kill him Mommy, Kill him.I will Jason, I will.As for calling him a putz–please, that’s a name reserved for me.[/quote]

I think putty and stan are one and the same. Now he, or she, or it, is messaging itself.