The Beginning of the EDJ experience
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JB, welcome to the investment world!! I started at EJ in November of 2003 and they provide good training. Do what they ask you to do and with your good attitude you will be successful. It’s hard work and very few survive, but all of us on the forum are a testament that some do survive.
Speaking of the forum, you can get some good advice and perspective from the participants, and most of us are not an a**hole like HAAIC, just take everything with a grain of salt and realize some LOVE Edward Jones and some HATE them, most of us don’t care one way or another. I went Indy about 4 months ago and could not be happier. Everything I learned at EJ helped me to succeed in the business. Good luck in your endeavor.
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I am no longer with Jones. When I was with Jones, I saw a number of black reps come and go in our region. I’m in Texas, and I think a black guy will have a harder time of making it in this business than a white guy. Especially with the Jones model. I would bet that a black guy going door to door (even in a suit) will get the cops called on him more than a white guy (even more so for a young black guy).
I would suggest you do some sample door knocking to get a feel for the town's attitude. And, unless you have a built in network of family or family contacts, I would think long and hard about coming in now (I would give that advice to anyone, not just a black person). Just my $.02.Why didn't you just say you were black? Why did you need to mention it at all? Calling yourself AA tells me that you are not good enough to call yourself an American - that you are seperating yourself from the rest of us. That is racist. [/quote] WHAAAT?!?!?!? Websters defines African American as "an American of African and especially of black African descent" Heck the government uses African American, The media uses African American...So i guess everybody is rascist...actually everybody IS rascist...DOWN with the MAN (raises black power fist)...seriously...i feel like you're trying to bait me with that "rascist" comment. Oh well good try. But yea the original reason i wrote AA in the first place, does anybody have any comments on that? Can i be succesful in this area?[/quote] How do you know that you aren't of jamaican or haitian descent? White people are the one's who started calling you African Americans. Did you know that? Your people permitted it. I wonder what we're gonna call you next. You want a comment? Here it is: I think that your attitude about yourself as different will have a negative impact on the level of success that you obtain.[quote=HAAIC][quote=JBEliteIII]To let you know i was black…just like a hispanic or a japanese person would usually put that in there to let you know what there origin is. Which is also why i added the deep south part. Guess i could have just said im an american living in America… I said it so you guys could kinda have a feel for the demographic and challenges, perceived or otherwise, that id have to face to succeed in the “Jones Model” in my area being a young black male. I hear yall talking about credibility and such on other topics dealing with EDJ, well i feel like living where i do i have a strike against me already… Of course this aint the 60s but still, most of my “target” are from that era… so that’s why i said african American
[quote=now_indy]I am no longer with Jones. When I was with Jones, I saw a number of black reps come and go in our region. I’m in Texas, and I think a black guy will have a harder time of making it in this business than a white guy. Especially with the Jones model. I would bet that a black guy going door to door (even in a suit) will get the cops called on him more than a white guy (even more so for a young black guy).
I would suggest you do some sample door knocking to get a feel for the town's attitude. And, unless you have a built in network of family or family contacts, I would think long and hard about coming in now (I would give that advice to anyone, not just a black person). Just my $.02.[/quote] Wow. Are you kidding me ? What is this, the 1960's? That is embarrassing commentary.Why didn't you just say you were black? Why did you need to mention it at all? Calling yourself AA tells me that you are not good enough to call yourself an American - that you are seperating yourself from the rest of us. That is racist. [/quote] WHAAAT?!?!?!? Websters defines African American as "an American of African and especially of black African descent" Heck the government uses African American, The media uses African American...So i guess everybody is rascist...actually everybody IS rascist...DOWN with the MAN (raises black power fist)...seriously...i feel like you're trying to bait me with that "rascist" comment. Oh well good try. But yea the original reason i wrote AA in the first place, does anybody have any comments on that? Can i be succesful in this area?[/quote] How do you know that you aren't of jamaican or haitian descent? White people are the one's who started calling you African Americans. Did you know that? Your people permitted it. I wonder what we're gonna call you next. You want a comment? Here it is: I think that your attitude about yourself as different will have a negative impact on the level of success that you obtain. [/quote] Because i know my ancestry... Just like you know if youre German or Norse or English. Irish American are proud ppl, so are the Celtic Americans. I know cuz i have friends that are such. So is it wrong for me to be proud of my origins, especially when i can trace it back to Africa? And i did know that white ppl started calling us AA, maybe i should use Afro-American, like Malcolm X, but then i'd be extremist right. Or maybe i should say black, but then id be slightly ignorant... Regardless im comfortable with whatever i want to use, and you're not important enough in my life to facilitate a change in how or what i want to be referred as. I thought this was a financial forum, not a cultural one??? A negative impact? I guess all the proud Irish American who helped build most of the NorthEast arent very successful at all...[quote=JBEliteIII][quote=HAAIC][quote=JBEliteIII]To let you know i was black…just like a hispanic or a japanese person would usually put that in there to let you know what there origin is. Which is also why i added the deep south part. Guess i could have just said im an american living in America… I said it so you guys could kinda have a feel for the demographic and challenges, perceived or otherwise, that id have to face to succeed in the “Jones Model” in my area being a young black male. I hear yall talking about credibility and such on other topics dealing with EDJ, well i feel like living where i do i have a strike against me already… Of course this aint the 60s but still, most of my “target” are from that era… so that’s why i said african American
[quote=HAAIC]
I wonder what we're gonna call you next. [/quote] buddy...thats a statement i wouldnt have made. Im a small fry on this site, and it doesnt bother me that much. But it does bother me. Id appreciate if you'd refrain from that kinda racial seperatist statement and keep it Financial. You knew what i meant from jumpstreet when i said African American. Your just being imflammatory at this point....Why didn't you just say you were black? Why did you need to mention it at all? Calling yourself AA tells me that you are not good enough to call yourself an American - that you are seperating yourself from the rest of us. That is racist. [/quote] WHAAAT?!?!?!? Websters defines African American as "an American of African and especially of black African descent" Heck the government uses African American, The media uses African American...So i guess everybody is rascist...actually everybody IS rascist...DOWN with the MAN (raises black power fist)...seriously...i feel like you're trying to bait me with that "rascist" comment. Oh well good try. But yea the original reason i wrote AA in the first place, does anybody have any comments on that? Can i be succesful in this area?[/quote] How do you know that you aren't of jamaican or haitian descent? White people are the one's who started calling you African Americans. Did you know that? Your people permitted it. I wonder what we're gonna call you next. You want a comment? Here it is: I think that your attitude about yourself as different will have a negative impact on the level of success that you obtain. [/quote] Because i know my ancestry... Just like you know if youre German or Norse or English. Irish American are proud ppl, so are the Celtic Americans. I know cuz i have friends that are such. So is it wrong for me to be proud of my origins, especially when i can trace it back to Africa? And i did know that white ppl started calling us AA, maybe i should use Afro-American, like Malcolm X, but then i'd be extremist right. Or maybe i should say black, but then id be slightly ignorant... Regardless im comfortable with whatever i want to use, and you're not important enough in my life to facilitate a change in how or what i want to be referred as. I thought this was a financial forum, not a cultural one??? A negative impact? I guess all the proud Irish American who helped build most of the NorthEast arent very successful at all...[/quote] Why don't you just say nothing and join the rest of the country? If you're gonna call yourself something, then the rest of us get to call you something. Personally, I've always liked the words "negro" and "schwartze."[quote=HAAIC][quote=JBEliteIII][quote=HAAIC][quote=JBEliteIII]To let you know i was black…just like a hispanic or a japanese person would usually put that in there to let you know what there origin is. Which is also why i added the deep south part. Guess i could have just said im an american living in America… I said it so you guys could kinda have a feel for the demographic and challenges, perceived or otherwise, that id have to face to succeed in the “Jones Model” in my area being a young black male. I hear yall talking about credibility and such on other topics dealing with EDJ, well i feel like living where i do i have a strike against me already… Of course this aint the 60s but still, most of my “target” are from that era… so that’s why i said african American
JB - if you just ignore him he'll leave you alone. It's no fun to bait someone who doesn't take the bait. Unless you enjoy the witty banter, then by all means, type away.
[quote=JBEliteIII][quote=HAAIC]
I wonder what we're gonna call you next. [/quote] buddy...thats a statement i wouldnt have made. Im a small fry on this site, and it doesnt bother me that much. But it does bother me. Id appreciate if you'd refrain from that kinda racial seperatist statement and keep it Financial. You knew what i meant from jumpstreet when i said African American. Your just being imflammatory at this point....[/quote] So YOU can talk about it, but noone else can? That's racist.well personally…LOL…i’m going to stop being an enabler for you. I knew you were going to take it there from the first post you made. So you got to say “Negro” online… You feel better? By the time everybody on this site that reads that lays into you for that comment…its your funeral not mine…
[quote=Spaceman Spiff]
JB - if you just ignore him he'll leave you alone. It's no fun to bait someone who doesn't take the bait. Unless you enjoy the witty banter, then by all means, type away.
[/quote] Spiff, exactly. Lets take this back to EDJ and finance. You have any good advice for a beginner like me, EDJ or not?[quote=JBEliteIII][quote=Spaceman Spiff]
JB - if you just ignore him he'll leave you alone. It's no fun to bait someone who doesn't take the bait. Unless you enjoy the witty banter, then by all means, type away.
[/quote] Spiff, exactly. Lets take this back to EDJ and finance. You have any good advice for a beginner like me, EDJ or not?[/quote] African American, the best advice for you came from me. Quit looking at yourself as different.[quote=HAAIC][quote=JBEliteIII][quote=Spaceman Spiff]
JB - if you just ignore him he'll leave you alone. It's no fun to bait someone who doesn't take the bait. Unless you enjoy the witty banter, then by all means, type away.
[/quote] Spiff, exactly. Lets take this back to EDJ and finance. You have any good advice for a beginner like me, EDJ or not?[/quote] African American, the best advice for you came from me. Quit looking at yourself as different. [/quote] OK HAAIC! Thanks for your sound advice!Keep in mind that the posts are from someone using the moniker HAAIC because he probably couldn’t get away with HNIC.
Usually he just tries to cause trouble, but he's worth reading because he does add some humor at times, but more importantly, he does have the ability to be helpful when he chooses.As an aside, why do we use the term African American? When we use that term, we usually mean black. Black and African American are not synonymous.
i think its mostly political correctness. They are definitely not synonymous. Either way doesnt bother me, i mean at the end of the day you know what you are.
JB - Once again, good luck!
I can’t believe the thread turned into what it did.
HAAIC - for what it’s worth (which I’m sure you’ll say is not much) - I agree with you. The problem is everybody is different and will always be different.
People with one testicle will always feel like half a man and overcompensate in some way. People who are ugly will be treated differently because they are ugly. Amputees and disabled people will always be looked at differently.
The reality is, no matter how you view yourself, people will view you differently. Him saying he is African-American, or black or whatever is acceptance of fact.
I for one am thankful that the latest incarnation of Bobby is blind to all colors, deformities and physical attributes. Maybe there is hope for those of us who don’t sell indexed-annuities too.