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Feb 17, 2010 3:23 am

[quote=Billy Mays] …

Have you ever thought about becoming Vice President of the United States:…

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Man, let it go. I don’t like her either, but now you’re just baiting.
Feb 17, 2010 2:29 pm

Well the answer to why you were not hired is obvious… You should of put on your resume that you used to dig ditches… That would of sealed the deal and you would be knocking on doors… HA HA

Feb 17, 2010 2:42 pm
buyandhold:

[quote=DCnew]I’m going to be fair and state that IF you really feel Jones is the best firm for you, go visit with an established advisor and see if you can sell yourself to them. I have heard that a strong recommendation from a seg 4 or 5 advisor can go a long way at EDJ. [/quote]

I second that.
You were rejected by a Jones HR person – i.e., most likely a failed broker.
Get yourself an advocate and make another run at it.

  Do you actually know anyone who works at the EDJ headquarters?  I mean, know them, like pick up the phone and call a buddy know them.  If not, then perhaps you shouldn't say things about people you don't know.  Our HR people are very good at what they do.  The ones that I know have HR degrees and are very well qualified to do what they do.   
Feb 17, 2010 2:50 pm

I find it funny that some people of the forum operate under the assumption that anyone who isn’t a broker, is a failed broker.

Feb 17, 2010 2:58 pm

[quote=noggin]

What Spiff means is that you should move to St Louis and help train new FA's for a good length of time and then you would be qualified for LP and probably an office as a Financial Advisor..

  Just joking Spiff....[/quote]   Actually, that's not a bad plan.  Some time in the business would be a benefit to a lot of people before they hit the streets and start investing people's money.  PASS program might be a good option too. 
Feb 17, 2010 3:29 pm

[quote=Spaceman Spiff][quote=noggin]

What Spiff means is that you should move to St Louis and help train new FA's for a good length of time and then you would be qualified for LP and probably an office as a Financial Advisor..

  Just joking Spiff....[/quote]   Actually, that's not a bad plan.  Some time in the business would be a benefit to a lot of people before they hit the streets and start investing people's money.  PASS program might be a good option too.  [/quote]   Learning why and how you do it is never a bad idea before you do it.
Feb 17, 2010 4:00 pm
iceco1d:

[quote=Wet_Blanket]I find it funny that some people of the forum operate under the assumption that anyone who isn’t a broker, is a failed broker.

  This coming from a compliance guy...who is CLEARLY a failed broker himself!  [/quote]   And Henry Ford almost got it right when he said that everyone would always want to drive a black model T.   For all those new, the best money you can spend is to buy your compliance person a beer or if another state, send them an occasional bag of Reeses Peanut Butter cups and watch how some things will melt away.   To the OP, keep trying, if you are committed you will figure out a way.
Feb 17, 2010 4:00 pm

Not suggesting the PASS program necessarily (though I think it’s good for those people), but I always felt that there should be an “apprentice” process in this business, sort of like qualifying for your CPA (ex: working for three years under another licensed CPA).

  Unfortunately, it's more like the real estate business.  Pass the exams, find a broker, and you have a job.   This would help move our industry to more of a "profession" than a "sales job".  Only problem is, professions like law and taxes are more science.  In our profession, there is no one way to do things.  No tax code or law library.  A million ways to get to the same answer.
Feb 17, 2010 4:04 pm
mlgone:

[quote=Spaceman Spiff][quote=buyandhold] [quote=DCnew]I’m going to be fair and state that IF you really feel Jones is the best firm for you, go visit with an established advisor and see if you can sell yourself to them. I have heard that a strong recommendation from a seg 4 or 5 advisor can go a long way at EDJ. [/quote]

I second that.
You were rejected by a Jones HR person – i.e., most likely a failed broker.
Get yourself an advocate and make another run at it.

  Do you actually know anyone who works at the EDJ headquarters?  I mean, know them, like pick up the phone and call a buddy know them.  If not, then perhaps you shouldn't say things about people you don't know.  Our HR people are very good at what they do.  The ones that I know have HR degrees and are very well qualified to do what they do.   [/quote]   Spoken like a true management robot stiff[/quote]   Just spoken like a guy who knows people that B&H just insulted. 
Feb 17, 2010 4:38 pm
iceco1d:

[quote=Wet_Blanket]I find it funny that some people of the forum operate under the assumption that anyone who isn’t a broker, is a failed broker.

  This coming from a compliance guy...who is CLEARLY a failed broker himself!  [/quote]   Hah, sorry to disappoint but Compliance has been my interest since day 1 in the industry.
Feb 17, 2010 4:46 pm

what are the qualifications for getting hired at jones?

Feb 18, 2010 2:58 am

Hey, Spiff, I didn’t mean to insult the Jones HR guys. Just trying to make a point that if you want to do something, don’t let one rejection stop you.






Feb 18, 2010 3:37 am

Hey thanks for all the great replies. I spoke with some other furloughed pilots and it seems that I am not the only one in this boat. Apparently, (and obviously) when HR personnel see “furloughed” on a resume’ they know that, when recalled, most pilots will drop their current job to return to flying. I guess it is a bit of a catch-22; legally I have to disclose that I still hold seniority at my previous job, but when I do I become a risk as no one want’s to spend training dollars on someone who they feel may leave with little notice. Thanks again all.

Feb 18, 2010 5:00 am
iceco1d:

[quote=Wet_Blanket]I find it funny that some people of the forum operate under the assumption that anyone who isn’t a broker, is a failed broker.







This coming from a compliance guy…who is CLEARLY a failed broker himself! [/quote]

Can’t make a living selling, so why not stop everyone else from making a living selling?



But remember, they are here to protect us!
Feb 18, 2010 5:01 am
Wet_Blanket:

[quote=iceco1d][quote=Wet_Blanket]I find it funny that some people of the forum operate under the assumption that anyone who isn’t a broker, is a failed broker.







This coming from a compliance guy…who is CLEARLY a failed broker himself! [/quote]



Hah, sorry to disappoint but Compliance has been my interest since day 1 in the industry.[/quote]

And little boys also? Douche Bag
Feb 18, 2010 1:43 pm

[quote=Vikram Pandit] [quote=Wet_Blanket] [quote=iceco1d][quote=Wet_Blanket]I find it funny that some people of the forum operate under the assumption that anyone who isn’t a broker, is a failed broker.[/quote]




This coming from a compliance guy...who is CLEARLY a failed broker himself! [/quote]

Hah, sorry to disappoint but Compliance has been my interest since day 1 in the industry.[/quote]
And little boys also? Douche Bag[/quote]   Vikram,  something tells me you were hurt before - don't hide your feelings.  If a compliance officer molested you, you can tell me.  Just know that not all of us are like that.
Feb 18, 2010 2:36 pm

compliance does seem to get a lot of sh*t…why all the hatred?

Feb 18, 2010 3:05 pm

haha no.  and to be completely honest, I’ve only had to deal with them 1 time thus far…had to get a 407 letter b/c the client was a bank employee…It wasn’t a brutal experience but not great either…Does it not get any better?

Feb 18, 2010 4:43 pm

[quote=donte_drink&drive]haha no.  and to be completely honest, I’ve only had to deal with them 1 time thus far…had to get a 407 letter b/c the client was a bank employee…It wasn’t a brutal experience but not great either…Does it not get any better?
[/quote]



better…oh yeah it gets better. my compliance guy sends me cards and candy all the time. He loves to play the rusty trombone. Ask your guy about that, its an inside compliance thing. You’ll be on top in no time {no pun}.

GL

Jack

Feb 18, 2010 5:00 pm

great…I’m gripped with anticipation