[quote=babbling looney]Check out the revolt in the House of Representatives.   The Democrats recessed for 5 weeks and refused…REFUSED…to allow a vote on an energy bill.    No voting. No discussing and then they want to take 5 weeks off.

  Finally!! Time that we took back the House of Representatives and made them actually work for a damned living.  Do the people's business Nancy.  Vote.[/quote]   One of my clients and friends has written some of the energy bills for the Republicans.  The Democrats won't even READ the bills.    They don't want anything positive coming out while Bush is still in office.  Sucks for us.

[quote=snaggletooth][quote=babbling looney]Check out the revolt in the House of Representatives.   The Democrats recessed for 5 weeks and refused…REFUSED…to allow a vote on an energy bill.    No voting. No discussing and then they want to take 5 weeks off.

  Finally!! Time that we took back the House of Representatives and made them actually work for a damned living.  Do the people's business Nancy.  Vote.[/quote]   One of my clients and friends has written some of the energy bills for the Republicans.  The Democrats won't even READ the bills.    They don't want anything positive coming out while Bush is still in office.  Sucks for us.[/quote] Won't read the bills or can't read the bills.  There's a lot of big words in those documents. 

Some Republicans say they are prepared to vote against a resolution to fund the federal government for the 2009 fiscal year unless Democrats agree to lift an offshore drilling moratorium. If the budget resolution fails, many agencies and departments would be denied money to operate and would be forced to close.

Now we could see a government shutdown, which would be great.However I think it bit the republicans in the butt last time under Newt. Dems would gloss over why there was a shutdown and spin it to their advantage. If 1/2 the country is ignorant enough to vote for Obama, they'll believe anything. Glad to see the GOP growing a pair and using them .   Stok

[quote=Spaceman Spiff][quote=snaggletooth][quote=babbling looney]Check out the revolt in the House of Representatives.   The Democrats recessed for 5 weeks and refused…REFUSED…to allow a vote on an energy bill.    No voting. No discussing and then they want to take 5 weeks off.

  Finally!! Time that we took back the House of Representatives and made them actually work for a damned living.  Do the people's business Nancy.  Vote.[/quote]   One of my clients and friends has written some of the energy bills for the Republicans.  The Democrats won't even READ the bills.    They don't want anything positive coming out while Bush is still in office.  Sucks for us.[/quote] Won't read the bills or can't read the bills.  There's a lot of big words in those documents.  [/quote]   Won't.    "Can't" implies the democrats are stupid and illiterate.  This may be in some instances, but "won't" implies that they are choosing to not work on behalf of the people who elected them and appear to be doing so very selfishly.   It's just a matter of opinion, but I think "won't" is worse than "can't".  These senators don't even have to worry about the same issues we do.  When was the last time they actually filled a gas tank? 

What is amazing to me is the complete and utter lack of coverage on this issue by the MSM.    People by and large have no idea what is going on.

  The Republicans are back in the House today, including the Representative from my district.  The media doesn't want to cover this because they know that it is a losing issue for the Democrats and they are so far into the tank trying to get Obama elected.   They have enough votes in the House to pass this bill because even some of the Democrats are smart enough to listen to their own voters and will cross party lines to approve an expanded energy bill.  People are overwhelmingly in favor of opening up drilling and expanding our supply of oil.   The Dems think that people will blame the Republicans for high prices and then if Obama is in office he and they can become the heros.  This is why the media is suppressing this information, but like the Swift Boat issue, they can't keep the lid on indefinitely.   It will come out if the Republicans hold firm and don't give in.
The Democrats would rather see people suffer, the market being depressed, businesses going bankrupt and jobs being lost so that they can try to grab power and get Obama elected.  They are sitting on the sidelines refusing to allow this or any other bill to come to the floor of Congress before the election.      I hate to sound uncaring, but maybe it would have been better if the brave people on Flight 93 hadn't crashed in Pennsylvania and fulfilled its flight path, right into Congress and took out all of these useless bozos we have in office.   If it weren't for the internet and that I have a friend who works in the district office of my Rep we wouldn't know any of this.    If we were to see this bill (to expand drilling, exploration and refining) pass the market would pop up and oil futures prices would drop.   I'm sending emails supporting the Republican House members to my Congressman and all other Republicans encouraging them to continue to bring this isssue to the public's attention and DON"T GIVE UP.  I suggest you guys do the same.

I heard today that Obama is suddenly for offshore drilling now with his new energy plan.  Let the flip-flopping begin.

I also saw a funny picture from McCain, it was a tire gage that says "Obama's Energy Plan" on it. 

[quote=babbling looney]What is amazing to me is the complete and utter lack of coverage on this issue by the MSM.    People by and large have no idea what is going on.

  The Republicans are back in the House today, including the Representative from my district.  The media doesn't want to cover this because they know that it is a losing issue for the Democrats and they are so far into the tank trying to get Obama elected.   [/quote]

These types of phony-baloney stunts get a lot of coverage...on the Daily Show and the political humor columns where they belong. And that is a non-partisan barb...from the late 90's til '06 the Daily Show has had great segments when the Dems put on the same silly spectacles. And none of their foolishness was covered by the Post, the Times or the networks either.

On another note, Obama said keeping tires properly inflated would save more oil than we can get from coastal drilling. Engineers, NASCAR, mechanics, Ronald Reagan and others have said the same thing....why, because its true. If the 30% of cars that run underinflated tires aired up we would save far more gas than we can ever hope to recover form offshore reserves.
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1829354,00.html

His obviously much more wise comments are as a result of his recently heralded " Majical Mystery Tour " or is it Jet Lag?????

He and his staff advise THEY are not FLIP FLOPPING????? Another way to increase fuel economy - remove anything from your trunk. You bet if the Edwards situation was reverse, a Republican, the press would be over the story like Stink On A Monkey.

avise:

If the 30% of cars that run underinflated tires aired up we would save far more gas than we can ever hope to recover form offshore reserves.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6pVI56McsI

[quote=babbling looney]What is amazing to me is the complete and utter lack of coverage on this issue by the MSM.    People by and large have no idea what is going on.

The same media that gave Bush a pass on the invasion of Iraq. No complaints about that? To be clear, I mean then, in 03, when it was happening. If the media had done t's job maybe enough questions would have been raised to derail the Bush trillion dollar war plan. Butttt, they were asleep at the wheel then, or in bed with Bush. Today nothing has changed other than bed hopping to a new sleeping partner. So why the outrage? As a republican you should be happy that Cheney, Rove, and Gonzales aren't in prison. If the media had pushed that's where they'd be.   The Republicans are back in the House today, including the Representative from my district.  The media doesn't want to cover this because they know that it is a losing issue for the Democrats and they are so far into the tank trying to get Obama elected.   They have enough votes in the House to pass this bill because even some of the Democrats are smart enough to listen to their own voters and will cross party lines to approve an expanded energy bill.  People are overwhelmingly in favor of opening up drilling and expanding our supply of oil.   Not so fast there skippy, em , I mean babs. Show me the overwhelming support. Yeah, the country is marginally in favor of off shore drilling, but not overwhelmingly so. And in states that will have to pay the piper if the shit hits the fan, like New Jersey for instance, not so overwhelming. Pretty much split. The uninformed SUV drivers humping down the Turnpike at 85 mph want drilling. Those who know better would rather not see one of the world's largest underground water supplies put on the pass line hoping the oil guys get it right. Corzine is right in his opposition to drilling.   The Dems think that people will blame the Republicans for high prices and then if Obama is in office he and they can become the heros.  This is why the media is suppressing this information, but like the Swift Boat issue, they can't keep the lid on indefinitely.   It will come out if the Republicans hold firm and don't give in.
The Democrats would rather see people suffer, the market being depressed, businesses going bankrupt and jobs being lost so that they can try to grab power and get Obama elected.  They are sitting on the sidelines refusing to allow this or any other bill to come to the floor of Congress before the election.     People will blame republicans for high prices? Gee doyathink? Let's see, secret energy policy engineered by Dr. Evil and now record profits by oil companies. Where were oil prices in 2001? Who else to blame? The ethanol debacle is pushing up food prices. Plus the e85 is crap gas.  Again, this is a Bush policy. Who should we blame? Record deficit that can do nothing but push interest rates up.  Who did that? Bush owns this mess. Of course with spin master Rove out of the picture he's having a tough time spinning his way around his failed economic policy.   Do you think that oil connected republicans really care about lowering energy costs? Again, our energypolicy is a secret. And now the repubicans who drafted that policy are closer than ever to getting the number one gift on their wish list, off shore drilling. Coincidence? Babs, the republicans are getting rich off that policy. Which brings me to your Swift Boat comment.   First, you do know the whole Swift Boat thing was a smear campaign that has since been debunked. Unfortunately, for the American people many were stupid enough to buy into it. And not because it cost Kerry the election, but because it cost America a fair election, again. We saw the same thing emerge duringthe democratic primary. Of course we all got the email that showed Obama not holding his hand over his heart during the Pledge of Alligiance. The email's purpose to tag Obama as anti american. ABC news polls conducted during the Ohio primary showed that, that email affected how voters voted. The sad news is that the picture in question was taken after the Pledge of Alliance and during the the song "America The Beautiful." No rule about that.   But let's move on to the big oil's love affair with anything Bush. You mentioned the Swift Boat campaign. Did you know that the Swift boat campaign against Kerry was privately funded? You can't have big politicalparty'sconductingsmear campaigns or paying for them. To fund the Swift boat campaign the repubilcans tapped T. Boone Pickens. T , who is an oil man, put up 40 million dollars of his own money to fund the campaign and get the book published. Why would an oil guy put up so much money to keep a president in office? Pickens is a smart business man, one of the smartest in the oil patch. Looking at oil prices in 2004 versus today, do you think that 40 million was a smart investment or money down the rat hole? Yet the naive think it was all about something that happened 30 years ago in Vietnam. or in this case , didn't happen. By the way ,I'm not a kerry fan, but i'm less a fan of liars. Which is what all the swift boat accusers are. And they were used by big oil to gain Bush another term. So, in their case stupid liars or sell outs. Take yor pick.     I hate to sound uncaring, but maybe it would have been better if the brave people on Flight 93 hadn't crashed in Pennsylvania and fulfilled its flight path, right into Congress and took out all of these useless bozos we have in office.   I'll let this comment speak for itself. But in 01 wasn't congress mostly republican?   If it weren't for the internet and that I have a friend who works in the district office of my Rep we wouldn't know any of this.    If we were to see this bill (to expand drilling, exploration and refining) pass the market would pop up and oil futures prices would drop.   Babs, on what planet? The oil gain won't be realized for years, far beyond the exp date of any futures trading today.     I'm sending emails supporting the Republican House members to my Congressman and all other Republicans encouraging them to continue to bring this isssue to the public's attention and DON"T GIVE UP.  I suggest you guys do the same.[/quote]

[quote=norway401]

His obviously much more wise comments are as a result of his recently heralded " Majical Mystery Tour " or is it Jet Lag???

He and his staff advise THEY are not FLIP FLOPPING????? Another way to increase fuel economy - remove anything from your trunk. You bet if the Edwards situation was reverse, a Republican, the press would be over the story like Stink On A Monkey.[/quote]

[quote=norway401]

You bet if the Edwards situation was reverse, a Republican, the press would be over the story like Stink On A Monkey.[/quote]

I just Googled this up to see what you are talking about.  You are reading too many blogs. 

I haven’t been grocery shopping in the past month or so, but for a couple of years it seemed all the rags you now respect so much had nothing on their covers but pictures of Bush drunk; Laura scratching his face; Laura living in a hotel, etc. etc.  Thank G*d no one, not even you, was all over that nonsense either

Avise…in fact do not read blogs. Majical Mystery Tour his recent tour see Obama vsisits Middle East and Europe. See his comments on Energy , Taxation and other significant issues. ( Then versus Now ). Would you admit perhaps pandering for votes?

What publications are you referencing???? BTW , I do point out that ALL Politicians are very capable of saying whatever they think will get them elected. No diffference between Republicans or Democrats ( U.S. ) or Conservative or Liberals ( Canada ).