Vick signs with Eagles
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In a move that could only be made in the dog days of summer the Eagles have signed Michael Vick to a two year deal. Immediately team officials announced the introduction of dollar dog nights for Sunday and Monday night games this season. Fearing a new fan ire weapon, the Philadelphia Police have banned fans from carrying in frozen hot dogs. Instead fans with have to throw official NFL player safe foam hot dogs which can be purchased at the stadium. Batteries and snow balls are still allowed.
I guess this means Kolb is out?I can’t believe they gave him 1.2mil. Maybe that is the minimum for a Vet of his years ?
Actually it's 1.6 mil for year one- league min. Year two, an option year is 5.2 mil.
The eagles don't need another quarterback but decide to throw Vick a bone. Time is running out for Reid/McNabb. No Superbowl this year and Vick may be the starter next season for a new coach. McNabb will definately be gone.Oh ok. He will blow through that 1.6mil in 6 months the way he spends money. I actually think Kolb can be a good QB. You are right, this is the end of the line for McNabb and Reid. Westbrook is wearing down also.
Maybe he and Pac Man can hit the "scrip club".Oh ok. He will blow through that 1.6mil in 6 months the way he spends money. I actually think Kolb can be a good QB. You are right, this is the end of the line for McNabb and Reid. Westbrook is wearing down also.
I’m not an Eagle fan, but I think McNabb is a great quarterback. Seriously, is Vick someone that the Eagles need to have right now? They made it to the NFC championship game last year and lost because of their D, not McNabb.
Oh well, as a Pats fan, I enjoyed watching Brady sitting back in the pocket picking apart the Eagles this week. Yeah, I know it’s only preseason.
Agree, I was pointing the cold hard fact that unless they win, it's over. Remember last season when it looked like McNabb and Reid wouldn't even make it through the season? Personally, i like them both and i'm trying to figue out why they need Vick? Outside of getting a star player on the cheap? Still, McNabb doesn't respond well to standing on the side lines. If the use Vick to complement McNabb i think that will work. If they pull McNabb and put in Vick, fireworks!Eagles fans are far too critical of McNabb/Reid.
McNabb arguably is a Hall of Famer. I cant believe how he is treated sometimes. They should keep him until he calls it quits, but like Bondguy said, they were trying to blow the thing up last year until they caught fire. Vick should be in for trick plays and kick returns. If he steals legitimate snaps from Mcnabb that is a joke. Most NFL owners are complete idiots when it comes to football. Coughlin was having his job threatened and then they won it all. Dungy got canned when he shouldn't have. John Fox was on the ropes last year and then they win the division.
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McNabb arguably is a Hall of Famer.
[/quote] LMAO!!!! Surely you jest...[quote=BerkshireBull][quote=Ron 14]
McNabb arguably is a Hall of Famer.
[/quote] LMAO!!!! Surely you jest... [/quote] 5 Pro bowls, 5 conference championship appearances, 1 Super Bowl appearance, 30,000 passing yards, lowest interception/pass attempt ratio in NFL HISTORY, 65% career win %, NFL record holder for most consecutive completions, the primary performer on two of the best plays in NFL history (4th and 26, and the 14 second scramble and hail mary vs. the Cowboys in Monday night), and had a decent receiver for ONE year out of his 10 year career. I'd say he has credentials that would warrant a lengthy discussion.And playing in front of a fan base that would want him crucified at the drop of a hat. Its a wonder he signed with us as quick as he did after getting drafted the way he was booed. Imagine going to work every day and having 10-15 e-mails in your box from pissed off clients who think you’re insane for putting them in some mutual fund that underperformed the market last week. Not last year, or the last 5 years, but last WEEK. And then coming right back and making the clients happy, then 2 months later those same clients are pissed off again for the same reason, but again you go and reassure them they are in a great allocation and have outperformed 95% of whatever else is out there. Then AGAIN they complain only a few weeks later. Imagine this going on for TEN YEARS, but every time you get the pissy e-mails you don’t snap at the clients or fire them. You take it, and do your best to continue giving them great service. How long would most of you be willing to take it? 6 months, take your paycheck and hightail it somewhere else? Or continue to do your job, somehow continue to love doing it, and continue to get the same abuse from your clients week in and week out for a full career?
Well said. If I was treated the way he was I would have absolutely flipped out years ago. Most of those meatballs wanted Ricky Williams over him ! LOL !
5 Pro-bowls and zero Superbowl wins does not make a Hall of Fame quarterback. In the Superbowl era, every Hall of Fame quarterback has a Superbowl win or more Pro-bowls. If he was All-Pro 5 times, that would be a different story. It takes a good player to make the Pro-bowl. It takes a great one to be All-Pro.
McNabb is a good quarterback and had one great season. That's not Hall of Fame material. Discuss him all that you want, but without a superbowl win, he's not getting in.Troy Aikman 164 TD’s 140 INT’s. McNabb 194-90. I am fairly certain Aikman played with much more talent. Don’t be a meatball and look at Superbowls only. It is a sport with 22 starters.
I don't have the numbers at hand, but if i recall, McNabb had a record year last year. His best year yet for passing yards completion % etc.
I like McNabb and mentioned that he is on the clock only because the Philly sports media has made it clear that he is getting long of tooth and it's this year or not at all. At least in Philly. I don't agree but that's the rap. Ricky Williams was one of my leading points earners on my fantasy football team. Well before he decided he'd rather smoke than play.We'd have to go with more than one great season for him. You can't have a quarterback with 30,000 yards and more than a 2/1 TD/Int ratio and have one great season to account for that. If all hall of fame quarterbacks had to win a Super Bowl in order to get in the Hall of Fame there wouldn't be enough Super Bowl's to go around. In the last 30 years for every Brady, Montana, Elway and Aikman you have 15 Trent Dilfers, Mark Rypiens, Eli Mannings, Brad Johnsons, Doug Williams and Jeff Hostetlers. I don't know many things in life but I know I'm not going to see Mark Rypiens fat mug sitting on a plaque in Canton one day when I visit there.McNabb is a good quarterback and had one great season. That’s not Hall of Fame material. Discuss him all that you want, but without a superbowl win, he’s not getting in.
6 pro-bowls for Aikman; 5 for McNabb 3 years all pro for Aikman; 0 for McNabb 3 Superbowl victories for Aikman; 0 for McNabb McNabb is a very good quarterback. He just hasn't done anything that is Hall of Fame worthy. Quarterback is a position of managing a game and putting W's on the board and not stats. A quarterback on a good team that has a "run-first" mentality will rarely put up great stats. Aikman is a great example of this. Bradshaw before him is a pretty good example. Rothlisberger is a good example of this with current players.Troy Aikman 164 TD’s 140 INT’s. McNabb 194-90. I am fairly certain Aikman played with much more talent. Don’t be a meatball and look at Superbowls only. It is a sport with 22 starters.
I’ll agree that if his career ended today there is a very good chance he wouldn’t get in. I would hope he does simply because I’m a Philly homer. I think the fact that Jim Kelly is in the Hall of Fame despite having a 2 TD vs. 7 INT line in his 4 Super Bowls and has one more Pro Bowl than Kelly may help his case. Again, we’ll need at least 2-3 very solid years of him playing in order to strengthen the case.