Rush Limbaugh
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[quote=Ron 14]
"I think what we’ve had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well,’’ Limbaugh said. “There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn’t deserve. The defense carried this team.”
What he is speaking to is the attention McNabb got early in his career when he was really just managing his team, Kyle Orton like. The defense did carry that team regardless of who was the quarterback. I compare it to the attention Jason Sehorn got for a few years. The guy was nothing more than an average cornerback, but because he was white and playing a position that is predominately black he got way more attention then his skill warranted. [/quote]I'm not going to discredit anything you said...but If you haven't coached college football...or played or coached professional football...then, I do not think you are qualified to make this statement absolutely.
[quote=voltmoie]You liberals are a funny, revisionist history type of crowd.[/quote]
Isn’t “revisionist history” the excuse Bush used when he was failing?
[quote=voltmoie]
Rush is not the extreme right. Do you even know what extreme right is? Can’t comment on KO, I get my news by reading not watching.
A majority of this country is not independent, a majority of this country is center right. That’s a fact sir.
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All the sudden…I think you are an idiot.
The majority of this country is center…it’s an average…dumbass!
Rush Limbaugh is certainly very racial. However, there is a huge difference between making racial comments and being a racist.
The only thing that he said derogatory about McNabb was that he was overrated. Many people would agree with that. Many people woudn't. However, the racial part of the comments were his reasons why he was overrated. Those comments were directed at the mostly white media. I don't know how a white person making a critical comment against the mostly white media qualifies as racist. They were racial comments. They were stupid comments. They were not racist comments. Has Rush ever said or done anything to indicate that he thinks that blacks are somehow inferior to other people or should be treated any differently than white people? Absent that, it's hard to put him in the category of racist.Rush is an a-hole. Actually, he is an a-hole in public regularly. That’s why he can’t own a NFL team. People don’t want to work with an a-hole, and I don’t blame them.
A-hole. Not an A-hole. Who cares. I’m not understanding most of this. He’d have a minority stake. Unless I’m mistaken, it means that he wouldn’t be in a position to make any decisions.
[quote=anonymous]
Has Rush ever said or done anything to indicate that he thinks that blacks are somehow inferior to other people or should be treated any differently than white people? Absent that, it's hard to put him in the category of racist.[/quote] Absent that? That's like saying having sex with guys doesn't make you gay. "Well besides liking pillow biting, I wouldn't consider myself gay. Doing gay things and being gay are two different things. "If Rush is a racist for talking about race, does that make you gay for talking about gay things?
[quote=anonymous]A-hole. Not an A-hole. Who cares. I’m not understanding most of this. He’d have a minority stake. Unless I’m mistaken, it means that he wouldn’t be in a position to make any decisions. [/quote]
The other owners did.
I agree, his presence makes no operational difference on a football club. But he is a polarizing figure who would create unwanted public relations headaches.
I don’t blame the other owners, I would tell him to go pound sand too.
Exactly. There are murders and rapists and sex offenders roaming the country right now who own businesses. So because a guy is controversial on talk radio he can't have a minority stake in a business ? Give me a break. Jesse Jackson has used the threats of boycotts to put his sons in lucrative ownership areas for alcohol distribution all over Chicago and it isn't even mentioned.A-hole. Not an A-hole. Who cares. I’m not understanding most of this. He’d have a minority stake. Unless I’m mistaken, it means that he wouldn’t be in a position to make any decisions.
Exactly. There are murders and rapists and sex offenders roaming the country right now who own businesses. So because a guy is controversial on talk radio he can't have a minority stake in a business ? Give me a break. Jesse Jackson has used the threats of boycotts to put his sons in lucrative ownership areas for alcohol distribution all over Chicago and it isn't even mentioned. [/quote][quote=anonymous]A-hole. Not an A-hole. Who cares. I’m not understanding most of this. He’d have a minority stake. Unless I’m mistaken, it means that he wouldn’t be in a position to make any decisions.
Jesse Jackson is an a-hole too.
Yes, he is and I agree Limbaugh is too. What I am saying is if Jesse was part of an ownership group that got denied because he is “controversial” the race card would be flying around all over the place. You can’t be denied an opportunity because what you believe is different than what someone else believes. That is DISCRIMINATION.
Rush does not talk about race; he makes racist comments. Big difference than talking about race.If Rush is a racist for talking about race, does that make you gay for talking about gay things?
Telling a black woman to "take the bone out of her nose" is not talking about race. Let me guess, you don't find anything wrong with that. Or saying that the NFL is like a fight between Bloods and Crips without weapons doesn't bother you either.If Rush is a racist for talking about race, does that make you gay for talking about gay things?
Telling a black woman to "take the bone out of her nose" is not talking about race. Let me guess, you don't find anything wrong with that. Or saying that the NFL is like a fight between Bloods and Crips without weapons doesn't bother you either. [/quote] I think that it's a mistake to call people racist without knowing the full context and having some sort of understanding of what was going on in the person's head. Telling a black woman to "take the bone out of her nose" sounds as if it was probably racist. However, before I jumped to that conclusion I would want to hear an explanation from the person who said it. The Bloods and Crips comment doesn't bother me. They are the two best known gangs. Is this comment any different than saying that the NFL is like a gang war? I just wouldn't make the assumption that it had anything to do with race. Maybe it did, but I wouldn't make the assumption. I used to get called "nigger" a lot. Should we assume that the people who called me that were racists?[quote=anonymous] If Rush is a racist for talking about race, does that make you gay for talking about gay things?
Telling a black woman to "take the bone out of her nose" is not talking about race. Let me guess, you don't find anything wrong with that. Or saying that the NFL is like a fight between Bloods and Crips without weapons doesn't bother you either. [/quote] I think that it's a mistake to call people racist without knowing the full context and having some sort of understanding of what was going on in the person's head. Telling a black woman to "take the bone out of her nose" sounds as if it was probably racist. However, before I jumped to that conclusion I would want to hear an explanation from the person who said it. The Bloods and Crips comment doesn't bother me. They are the two best known gangs. Is this comment any different than saying that the NFL is like a gang war? I just wouldn't make the assumption that it had anything to do with race. Maybe it did, but I wouldn't make the assumption. I used to get called "nigger" a lot. Should we assume that the people who called me that were racists?[/quote][quote=army13A][quote=anonymous] If Rush is a racist for talking about race, does that make you gay for talking about gay things?
Are you black?
Telling a black woman to "take the bone out of her nose" is not talking about race. Let me guess, you don't find anything wrong with that. Or saying that the NFL is like a fight between Bloods and Crips without weapons doesn't bother you either. [/quote][quote=anonymous] If Rush is a racist for talking about race, does that make you gay for talking about gay things?
Like a typical person that does not listen you either don't understand the context or the art of satire. I don't blame you, you've been spoon fed this stuff from the left. Do yourself a favor. For one week, listen to him .. then make your mind up. No matter what you say, doubt you've done this or will do it.
BTW: I'm a proud black man.
This, like every other thread, has gone in the ditch. The issue wasn’t whether or not he is a racist. It was whether or not he should be prevented from having an ownership stake in the NFL team.
Telling a black woman to "take the bone out of her nose" is not talking about race. Let me guess, you don't find anything wrong with that. Or saying that the NFL is like a fight between Bloods and Crips without weapons doesn't bother you either. [/quote][quote=army13A][quote=anonymous] If Rush is a racist for talking about race, does that make you gay for talking about gay things?
Like a typical person that does not listen you either don't understand the context or the art of satire. I don't blame you, you've been spoon fed this stuff from the left. Do yourself a favor. For one week, listen to him .. then make your mind up. No matter what you say, doubt you've done this or will do it.
BTW: I'm a proud black man.
[/quote] Spoon fed from the left? Let's see . . . I believe in cutting taxes HEAVILY, privatizing SS, free trade, cut govt spending, keeping govt out of our personal lives and force them to do what they should be doing (protecting Americans from threats, domestic and foreign). I guess I was spoon fed all of that while I was in the military because we all know that the military is left wing right? No matter what you think, I have listened to Rush. And of course, like a typical Rush supporter, anyone who doesn't agree with your view is automatically "spoon fed from the left". The majority of the people on this topic were in consensus that Rush is a moron. That's because a majority of the people are independent and don't believe in his dribble. Again, I'm an Independent that leans Libertarian. I've voted for Repubs, Dems and Independents b/c I don't belong to a party and make my mind up about each position. Ron, part of why Rush was denied membership is because of his past and it's hard to not talk about his "racist" comments while talking about the topic of NFL ownership. Me, personally, didn't care either way.
Technically Ron, chief123 started the thread and this was his post: Ok I understand he is the equivalent of shock radio for conservatives... But he is without a doubt the dumbest person speaking...This, like every other thread, has gone in the ditch. The issue wasn’t whether or not he is a racist. It was whether or not he should be prevented from having an ownership stake in the NFL team.
It's Obama's fault that he made so racist comments(against a league that is predominantly black) and pissed off the members.. Even Jim Irsay came out and said he wouldn't vote for him. I think it was just a general comment and whether he should be an NFL owner was a secondary discussion.