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The depression and bear market ran from 1929 to 1941....FDR did more to keep the country in a depression than he did to get it out of one...look it up...
[quote=bspears]
The depression and bear market ran from 1929 to
1941…FDR did more to keep the country in a depression than he did to
get it out of one…look it up…
Yep, but talk to a Keysian and they’ll wax poetically about what a warm and fuzzy idea FDR’s tax and spend policies were.
What the socialism of the 1930s did do for us is build basically all of
those rock buildings in the national parks as well as a two foot tall
rock wall for miles and miles and miles along old roads such as Route
66.
At least in those days a government check required you to do
something. It may be a “Make Work” task such as building a wall
alongside the road, or it may have been something worthwhile like
building a lodge at Yellowstone.
But at least it was making them do something. Today you can get on the dole and they’ll direct deposit for you.
Thank you FDR, thank you LBJ, thank you Jimmy Carter, thank you Bill Clinton.
We need a President Obma like we need a dose of syphlis.
As my wife and I were traveling south last week, she commented on why she couldn’t understand why they just don’t go to a flat tax that everyone pays. I told her if that would happen what would the two parties spar over…I’m going to f the rich vs I’m going to help the wealth builders…they’d have no favors to dole out.
Also, imagine how many people would lose their job if we had an easy tax system.
Remember in Idiocracy when the president stopped using Brawndo (a gatorade copy-cat) to water the crops? The stock fell 90% and over half the nation lost their jobs (everyone worked for Brawndo).
I imagine it would be similar to that.
Here’s a scary thought I heard recently.
If Obama does "tax the rich" and less than half of the population pays taxes, we could actually have an election where the president is elected 100% by people who pay no taxes (yes, I understand the electoral college, but you get the idea).[quote=BondGuy]Babs, you are way over the top on this. The country not only survived the most socialist leader in modern times, FDR, it thrived. You are looking at this the wrong way. Just think of how you can spend that check that Mr. Obama will be sending you.
Seriously, where you see nothing but "Bad moons", I see opportunity. If nothing else rebalance, take some loses, and DCA back in. All this is temporary, soon we'll be in a new day. New day, new crisis, new opportunity. [/quote] You mean that check from the money that they are already taking from me. Look...I don't mind paying taxes if there is a real return on my investment. Taxes are for the common good and things like infrastructure, military, police, fire depts etc. They can even be used to help some people in TEMPORARY dire straights like unemployment insurance and food stamps. The Democrats and Obama want to create a permanent underclass of welfare recipients and level the working class so they can keep power centralized and the people/sheeple sedated. Obama wants to confiscate the money that I and other small business owners, like myself, make and literally GIVE it in a cash rebate to someone who doesn't pay taxes. That is out and out socialism and perpetuates welfare mentality. Why the fuck (excuse my French) should I work my ass off, get an ulcer only to have my income taken from me. Where is the incentive to work......there isn't any and that is the point of the Socialist agenda. To keep us all dependent on the state and unmotivated to succeed is the plan. FDR set the country back by 10 years into a deeper depression than what would have been had they left well enough alone and drug the rest of the world into hell with him. The bad moon arising?. Civil unrest, resentment between people based on the confiscation of private property to give to Obama's chosen. Reparations to blacks for slavery over 140 years ago, for which most of us have zero connection and is really really going to piss people off. Civil disobedience and violence between peoples. Socialistic dogma being forced upon the children, negating the wishes of parents. Forced "community" service. Obama wants to social engineer and community organize the US. The economy is going to slow to a grinding halt by a Democrat generated depression through stupid economic policies, that will probably spread world wide creating even more unrest and possible wars. I personally think that the international incident that Biden hinted at is when Obama throws Israel under the bus and a nuclear even happens in the middle east. And Obama will do nothing or even side with the attackers. Mr. Dinner Jacket in Iran is already being pushed out of the picture for some reason. I don't think it is good. More? Possible nationalizing of various industries, (agriculture, oil production, mining, transportation) to spread the wealth around and then we spin into a Zimbabwe type cycle of inflation and food shortages. The refusal to build up infrastructure to bring oil, gas or coal to our industries and the sheer incompetence of the government run monopolies, will leave us at the mercy of countries who mean us no good. Short sighted economic policies leading to high inflation or even hyper inflation. All in the name of enacting Obama's socialistic wet dreams. Personally, I'm investing in 12 gauge shotgun shells, 22 cartridges, 30.06 shells and a Mormon size pantry. You won't catch me within 200 miles of any large city until this is over and I expect this downturn to last for at least 4 to 6 years. People who vote for Obama, like Put said, are too stupid to be allowed to live.I have a question for Bondguy. How much of your production do you donate to the underperformers in your office? After all, it is the patriotic thing to do.
To Babs post, if you think this country is racist now, wait until Osama start making reparations for slavery. This is not going to be pretty. Osama talks about civil unity, while his interviews and actions speak to the opposite.
[quote=Primo]
I have a question for Bondguy. How much of your production do you
donate to the underperformers in your office? After all, it is
the patriotic thing to do.
[/quote]
It’s humorous that Bond Guy is such a butt boy for huge government in
light of the fact that he makes his living selling bonds that are
designed to keep tax money away from the very government he so
slavishly loves.
Put, and I mean this in the most positive way possible, I disagree (we will leave it at that) with most of what you say, but on this issue we agree completely.
[quote=Primo]
To Babs post, if you think this country is racist now, wait until Osama
start making reparations for slavery. This is not going to be
pretty. Osama talks about civil unity, while his interviews and
actions speak to the opposite.
[/quote]
I can’t imagine The One bringing up the idea of reparations–however, I
can’t imagine him not signing such a law if Speaker Pelosi and Leader
Reid orchestrate one to send him.
Those who plan to vote for this guy because he’s going to be a unifying factor–THINK!
Hell, he’ll be lucky to live long enough to run for reelection because
he is such a divisive figure. He has never–as in NEVER–even
pretended to be bi-partisan, There is no more liberal
Senator. There is no less qualified empty suit ever to get a
major firm’s nomination, much less appear to be all but elected.
He based his entire candidacy on his opposition to the war–and morons
who have no idea who he was swooned. He was a back bench part
time state senator when the decisions to go to war were being
made. If he was against it it was what he muttered to himself
while taking a dump because nobody else was listening and he didn’t
have to cast a vote on it.
How about the promise to not raise your taxes. The deal is that
in 2001 and 2006 we had two tax reductions. They are sunsetted
for 2010, meaning they will simply expire. So it will not require
a presidential action to raise your taxes, all he has to do is do
nothing and your taxes will go up about 5% in 2010.
You experience a tax increase, but the liar from Illionois didn’t do it
to you. It’s like he’s saying, “I won’t rape you” knowing full
well he will watch you being raped by somebody else.
Thank you media for the most dishonest coverage of a presidential campaign in American history.
Don't forget that he will tell you what you want to hear when he thinks it will benefit him only to change course when it is in his best interest. Example #1: "I will take only publice funds if my opponent agrees to do the same". When he takes office, he will no longer need to lie. He can push his agenda without fear of reprisal due to the right being in the minority.[quote=Primo]
To Babs post, if you think this country is racist now, wait until Osama start making reparations for slavery. This is not going to be pretty. Osama talks about civil unity, while his interviews and actions speak to the opposite.
[/quote]
I can’t imagine The One bringing up the idea of reparations–however, I can’t imagine him not signing such a law if Speaker Pelosi and Leader Reid orchestrate one to send him.
Those who plan to vote for this guy because he’s going to be a unifying factor–THINK!
Hell, he’ll be lucky to live long enough to run for reelection because he is such a divisive figure. He has never–as in NEVER–even pretended to be bi-partisan, There is no more liberal Senator. There is no less qualified empty suit ever to get a major firm’s nomination, much less appear to be all but elected.
He based his entire candidacy on his opposition to the war–and morons who have no idea who he was swooned. He was a back bench part time state senator when the decisions to go to war were being made. If he was against it it was what he muttered to himself while taking a dump because nobody else was listening and he didn’t have to cast a vote on it.
How about the promise to not raise your taxes. The deal is that in 2001 and 2006 we had two tax reductions. They are sunsetted for 2010, meaning they will simply expire. So it will not require a presidential action to raise your taxes, all he has to do is do nothing and your taxes will go up about 5% in 2010.
You experience a tax increase, but the liar from Illionois didn’t do it to you. It’s like he’s saying, “I won’t rape you” knowing full well he will watch you being raped by somebody else.
Thank you media for the most dishonest coverage of a presidential campaign in American history.
I agree with you here Put. This may be obvious to some of us here, but is unknown to the general public. I have a huge problem with how the Republicans have run this campaign. First, was McCain really the best man? Not in my opinion. Second, why hasn't he brought up some of these obvious things? It's not rocket science. You don't see him addressing this stuff. In other words, it's Obama's election to lose, therefore McCain needs to attack. Problem is that either he is lost or his advisors have run him into the ground.[quote=Primo]
To Babs post, if you think this country is racist now, wait until Osama start making reparations for slavery. This is not going to be pretty. Osama talks about civil unity, while his interviews and actions speak to the opposite.
[/quote]
I can’t imagine The One bringing up the idea of reparations–however, I can’t imagine him not signing such a law if Speaker Pelosi and Leader Reid orchestrate one to send him.
Those who plan to vote for this guy because he’s going to be a unifying factor–THINK!
Hell, he’ll be lucky to live long enough to run for reelection because he is such a divisive figure. He has never–as in NEVER–even pretended to be bi-partisan, There is no more liberal Senator. There is no less qualified empty suit ever to get a major firm’s nomination, much less appear to be all but elected.
He based his entire candidacy on his opposition to the war–and morons who have no idea who he was swooned. He was a back bench part time state senator when the decisions to go to war were being made. If he was against it it was what he muttered to himself while taking a dump because nobody else was listening and he didn’t have to cast a vote on it.
How about the promise to not raise your taxes. The deal is that in 2001 and 2006 we had two tax reductions. They are sunsetted for 2010, meaning they will simply expire. So it will not require a presidential action to raise your taxes, all he has to do is do nothing and your taxes will go up about 5% in 2010.
You experience a tax increase, but the liar from Illionois didn’t do it to you. It’s like he’s saying, “I won’t rape you” knowing full well he will watch you being raped by somebody else.
Thank you media for the most dishonest coverage of a presidential campaign in American history.
[quote=Primo]
Don't forget that he will tell you what you want to hear when he thinks it will benefit him only to change course when it is in his best interest. Example #1: "I will take only publice funds if my opponent agrees to do the same". When he takes office, he will no longer need to lie. He can push his agenda without fear of reprisal due to the right being in the minority.[/quote]
He has the built in deflector, "You're only against his idea because you're a racist." Nobody will be able to question anything they do.
Babs has the right idea--just hole up somewhere as if it is going to be a four year hurricane.
Personally my wife and I may take off for Europe--we've talked about living over there for a few years and never got around to it. This may be the time.
[quote=snaggletooth]
I agree with you here Put. This may be obvious to some of us here, but is unknown to the general public. I have a huge problem with how the Republicans have run this campaign. First, was McCain really the best man? Not in my opinion. Second, why hasn't he brought up some of these obvious things? It's not rocket science. You don't see him addressing this stuff. In other words, it's Obama's election to lose, therefore McCain needs to attack. Problem is that either he is lost or his advisors have run him into the ground.[/quote]
Both parties fielded about the worst candidate they could. I had made the maximium contribution to Rudy and kept thinking that he and his advisors knew what they were doing betting everything on Florida. What a supreme dumb ass move.
On the Democrat side the anti-Clinton sentiment was so deep that the party wanted her to be defeated. In order to do that it was going to have to be another woman or a black candidate. There were no qualified women and there were no qualified blacks--so they chose a gifted speaker who was black and ran with him.
Hillary really screwed up by not contending in the caucus states. She also fell victim to a lot of mischief--I know people in several states who voted for Obama to do their part as an anti-Hillary voice. Those folks will NOT vote for him in the general elections, yet pollsters assume that they will because they are "registered Democrats" having voted in the Democrat primaries.
I am in the small school of thought that believes that the polls are meaningless. The pollsters are weighting their results based on assumptions drawn on the belief that there are huge numbers of new voters and that there was huge Democrat turnout in the primaries.
The new voters have proven to be mostly ACORN fraud and the huge Democrat turnout included millons of Republicans who were voting for Obama to screw with Hillary but who would never vote for Obama when it really mattered.
LImbaugh has been on the air screaming, "It's all about race." I agree, I think it's actually a referendum on if white people are still in charge of the United States and I think that at least 25% of the white Democrats are going to vote "Not so fast."
I know I sound crazy, and I know I could have egg all over my face--but I would not be at all surprised if the only electoral votes Obama wins are those from DC. I think there are that many bigots out here.
We'll have to wait to see. If McCain wins it will be a very long night for the media and a very good day for the Dow on Wednesday.
Both parties fielded about the worst candidate they could.
I have to disagree with this one. The Democrats have fielded a great candidate. The Republicans have fielded a terrible one. This election reminds me of Bush/Kerry. The Republicans were Pro-Bush. The Dems were anti-Bush. In this election, it's just the opposite. The Dems are Pro-Obama. The Republicans are Anti-Obama. It's awfully tough to win an election when your voters are anti-the other guy instead of pro-your guy. My point is that the Dems are excited about Obama, therefore, they have a good candidate. The Republicans are not excited about McCain, therefore, they have a bad candidate.[quote=Provocative Put] [quote=Primo]
Don't forget that he will tell you what you want to hear when he thinks it will benefit him only to change course when it is in his best interest. Example #1: "I will take only publice funds if my opponent agrees to do the same". When he takes office, he will no longer need to lie. He can push his agenda without fear of reprisal due to the right being in the minority.[/quote]
He has the built in deflector, "You're only against his idea because you're a racist." Nobody will be able to question anything they do.
Babs has the right idea--just hole up somewhere as if it is going to be a four year hurricane.
Personally my wife and I may take off for Europe--we've talked about living over there for a few years and never got around to it. This may be the time.
[/quote] Haha I love it. First you speak about people who hate America and now you have the balls to express a desire to leave the country (which you will never do). Probably the smartest, and most embarrassing, thing you have posted on this forum. And then the irony of picking Europe of all places, hahaha. What a joke.
I have an answer to this question. He makes half a mil in production, enough to justify hiring a new assistant in the branch that can answer the underperformers calls and justifty keeping the branch alive for the underperformers to have a seat they can sit on. You like?I have a question for Bondguy. How much of your production do you donate to the underperformers in your office? After all, it is the patriotic thing to do.
Wait wait wait...so you're using the term Osama and excluding yourself from the racist category on top of coming up with some hypothetical future scenario you have no basis to predict? I have a brilliant idea for you Primo, why not go work that crystal ball of yours to pick appropriate investments to help yuor clients before your family ends up on the street. This thread and it's posters are embarrassing. I often wonder how many of you would have the balls to say this stuff in public. Even more embarrassing that you think we live ina country where a "racist terrorist" can become senator/next president of the United States. I really need to limit my time reading this site.To Babs post, if you think this country is racist now, wait until Osama start making reparations for slavery. This is not going to be pretty. Osama talks about civil unity, while his interviews and actions speak to the opposite.
[quote=anabuhabkuss]
Haha I love it. First you speak about people who hate America and now you have the balls to express a desire to leave the country (which you will never do). Probably the smartest, and most embarrassing, thing you have posted on this forum. And then the irony of picking Europe of all places, hahaha. What a joke.[/quote]
Idiot, we would not live in Europe to escape the United States. We would live in Europe to enjoy living in Europe.
I've been married to an airline employee for close to forty years. We vacation in Europe, always have and always will. But time was always limited. Now it's not since we're both retired.
We envision an apartment in Salzburg where we can shoot off in any direction for a few days, come back, wash the clothes and take off again. Life is not a dress rehearsal.
That you're too dumb to be interested in what is around the bend or over the hill will cause you to be on your death bed wondering why you never lived in Europe for a few years.
Sometimes all one needs is a little shove to make a major change--having to endure Atlanta in the Age of Obama is reason to leave Atlanta.