AAPL 4 for 1 split?

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and the market rallies 70pts?
 
Love the volitility
 
sitting on 40 billion in cash.  luv it

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Love it.  In all of my models.I love being me.

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You watch too much CNBC Mlgone.
 
The 70 point rally has alot more to do with the Dollar weakening since 11pm cst to now and nothing to do with AAPL.
 
AAPL has moved from 198 to 200 on the 'news'. It's also been categorically denied by Steve Jobs.
 
And by the way, what about a stock split would rally the market? Stock Splits are zero sum gains for investors.
 
Bershire-B shares being an example. They split 50-1 in order to finance the Burlington Northern deal and be put in the S&P500 but that doesn't change anything fundamentally about the market.

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LSUAlum wrote:You watch too much CNBC Mlgone.
 
The 70 point rally has alot more to do with the Dollar weakening since 11pm cst to now and nothing to do with AAPL.
 
AAPL has moved from 198 to 200 on the 'news'. It's also been categorically denied by Steve Jobs.
 
And by the way, what about a stock split would rally the market? Stock Splits are zero sum gains for investors.
 
Bershire-B shares being an example. They split 50-1 in order to finance the Burlington Northern deal and be put in the S&P500 but that doesn't change anything fundamentally about the market.LSU - stock splits (especially 4 to 1) make the price more attractive psychologically.  No one wants to jump on a stock when it's 200/share.  Now 50?

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Moraen wrote: LSUAlum wrote:You watch too much CNBC Mlgone.
 
The 70 point rally has alot more to do with the Dollar weakening since 11pm cst to now and nothing to do with AAPL.
 
AAPL has moved from 198 to 200 on the 'news'. It's also been categorically denied by Steve Jobs.
 
And by the way, what about a stock split would rally the market? Stock Splits are zero sum gains for investors.
 
Bershire-B shares being an example. They split 50-1 in order to finance the Burlington Northern deal and be put in the S&P500 but that doesn't change anything fundamentally about the market.LSU - stock splits (especially 4 to 1) make the price more attractive psychologically.  No one wants to jump on a stock when it's 200/share.  Now 50?

I know why the stock split potentially helps that individual stock(although it makes owning the stock more expensive as you have to pay higher commissions to execute equivalent $$ value trades). My response was what does that have to do with the broader market? Nothing changes materially with the company of AAPL so the market rally has nothing to do with the split.

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mlgone wrote:I guess you KNOW what rallies the markets?  Minon...Thanks Cramer.........go back banging on your desk

The evidence suggests that you clearly have no idea what does.
 
I'm not saying I know what moves markets, but I do know what doesn't move them like... stock splits.

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LSUAlum wrote: mlgone wrote:I guess you KNOW what rallies the markets?  Minon...Thanks Cramer.........go back banging on your desk

The evidence suggests that you clearly have no idea what does.
 
I'm not saying I know what moves markets, but I do know what doesn't move them like... stock splits.

LSU

stfu

you're an annoying idiot

and LSU is an inbred redneck junior college

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Shania Twain wrote: LSUAlum wrote: mlgone wrote:I guess you KNOW what rallies the markets?  Minon...Thanks Cramer.........go back banging on your desk

The evidence suggests that you clearly have no idea what does.
 
I'm not saying I know what moves markets, but I do know what doesn't move them like... stock splits.

LSU

stfu

you're an annoying idiot

and LSU is an inbred redneck junior collegeWhy all the rage directed that this guy Shania?

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could not take it anymore.

Chat forum road rage I guess.

should have been nicer

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LSUAlum wrote: Moraen wrote: LSUAlum wrote:You watch too much CNBC Mlgone.
 
The 70 point rally has alot more to do with the Dollar weakening since 11pm cst to now and nothing to do with AAPL.
 
AAPL has moved from 198 to 200 on the 'news'. It's also been categorically denied by Steve Jobs.
 
And by the way, what about a stock split would rally the market? Stock Splits are zero sum gains for investors.
 
Bershire-B shares being an example. They split 50-1 in order to finance the Burlington Northern deal and be put in the S&P500 but that doesn't change anything fundamentally about the market.LSU - stock splits (especially 4 to 1) make the price more attractive psychologically.  No one wants to jump on a stock when it's 200/share.  Now 50?

I know why the stock split potentially helps that individual stock(although it makes owning the stock more expensive as you have to pay higher commissions to execute equivalent $$ value trades). My response was what does that have to do with the broader market? Nothing changes materially with the company of AAPL so the market rally has nothing to do with the split.

This would be incorrect. Have you made a stock purchase in the last decade?

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Incredible Hulk wrote: LSUAlum wrote: Moraen wrote: LSUAlum wrote:You watch too much CNBC Mlgone.
 
The 70 point rally has alot more to do with the Dollar weakening since 11pm cst to now and nothing to do with AAPL.
 
AAPL has moved from 198 to 200 on the 'news'. It's also been categorically denied by Steve Jobs.
 
And by the way, what about a stock split would rally the market? Stock Splits are zero sum gains for investors.
 
Bershire-B shares being an example. They split 50-1 in order to finance the Burlington Northern deal and be put in the S&P500 but that doesn't change anything fundamentally about the market.LSU - stock splits (especially 4 to 1) make the price more attractive psychologically.  No one wants to jump on a stock when it's 200/share.  Now 50?

I know why the stock split potentially helps that individual stock(although it makes owning the stock more expensive as you have to pay higher commissions to execute equivalent $$ value trades). My response was what does that have to do with the broader market? Nothing changes materially with the company of AAPL so the market rally has nothing to do with the split. This would be incorrect. Have you made a stock purchase in the last decade?

Yes I have, and you can look into it sir. My B/D charges ticket charges on QUANTITY of shares in addition to a flat rate. Feel free to step away from E-Trade, etc.
 
For instance, you pay a 19.95 flat rate for a trade + .03 per share over 1000 shares. So if a company splits 50-1 say like Bershire-B just did. In order to execute a large block trade it costs the client more for the same amount of $$'s worth of stock.

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Stock Split Calander:
http://biz.yahoo.com/c/s.html
 
 
 

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Quote:Incredible Hulk wrote: LSUAlum wrote: Moraen wrote: LSUAlum wrote:You watch too much CNBC Mlgone.

 

The 70 point rally has alot more to do with the Dollar weakening since 11pm cst to now and nothing to do with AAPL.

 

AAPL has moved from 198 to 200 on the 'news'. It's also been categorically denied by Steve Jobs.

 

And by the way, what about a stock split would rally the market? Stock Splits are zero sum gains for investors.

 

Bershire-B shares being an example. They split 50-1 in order to finance the Burlington Northern deal and be put in the S&P500 but that doesn't change anything fundamentally about the market. LSU - stock splits (especially 4 to 1) make the price more attractive psychologically.  No one wants to jump on a stock when it's 200/share.  Now 50?

I know why the stock split potentially helps that individual stock(although it makes owning the stock more expensive as you have to pay higher commissions to execute equivalent $$ value trades). My response was what does that have to do with the broader market? Nothing changes materially with the company of AAPL so the market rally has nothing to do with the split.

This would be incorrect. Have you made a stock purchase in the last decade?

Yes I have, and you can look into it sir. My B/D charges ticket charges on QUANTITY of shares in addition to a flat rate. Feel free to step away from E-Trade, etc.
 
For instance, you pay a 19.95 flat rate for a trade + .03 per share over 1000 shares. So if a company splits 50-1 say like Bershire-B just did. In order to execute a large block trade it costs the client more for the same amount of $$'s worth of stock.

It depends on if the stock is thinly traded or not.  Even stepping back from E-trade, if you are an RIA and work with Fidelity and you are buying shares of Berkshire, or Apple, it's going to be 7.95, no matter the volume.

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Of course any split of a company does not move the market at all. It also doesn't move that stock that day. However over the long haul it is seen as a good move for companies who need more capital.
I thought it was just me, but I have this conversation with clients constantly. They just don't seem to understand that a stock isn't cheap just b/c it is low and that the stock market works on percentages not dollars and lastly they really have a hard time understanding that a stock split does not benefit or hurt them.

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