UBS vs. ML

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Does anyone have experience with the UBS and ML pre-employment assessment tests?  I know that UBS has a math test and a logic test.  Are the tests at both companies similar?  Who's tests are easier?

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I am just looking for some insight so I know what to be prepared for.  It is interesting that you judge me for trying to be prepared.  I never once said I was concerned about it.  Its disturbing to me that if you are a successful FA you have time to submit a post like that.

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billybob13 wrote:Does anyone have experience with the UBS and ML pre-employment assessment tests?  I know that UBS has a math test and a logic test.  Are the tests at both companies similar?  Who's tests are easier?
 
Well Billybob, it's a good thing they aren't grammar tests.
 
Here's the problem with your post.  In order to give you a fair answer, one would have had to take BOTH tests to know which was easier and what similarities there were.  In order to take BOTH tests, most likely one would have had to fail one test or the other.
 
So, that being said, would you really even want to trust someone who might have failed one of the tests to tell you which one was easier?
 
Sounds like the blind leading the blind to me.

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The ML test is more of a personality test and less of an aptitude test.  There was not math, grammar, etc., more personality type questions.  I haven't taken the UBS test.

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Snaggletooth, it is not true that you must have failed one test to take the other.  I have been in talks with many firms and exploring all options before I commit to one.  I have taken the UBS test and passed, and now I am going to take the ML test.  My objective of this post was to get some insight on the ML test so I have an idea of what to prepare for.  Prior to taking the UBS test I did the same and got some helpful tips.  So in conclusion all I really am looking for is to get some insight on what to expect this will help me improve my chances.
 
P.S.  I don't attempt to spend much time on grammar when I post on any forum or blog.  I try to focus on content.  Sorry my grammar was incorrect.

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Akkula,
Thank you for the info on the ML test.  It sounds like there is not much I can really prepare for since it is a personality test rather than a math or logic test.  Is this correct?

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billybob13 wrote:Snaggletooth, it is not true that you must have failed one test to take the other.  I have been in talks with many firms and exploring all options before I commit to one.  I have taken the UBS test and passed, and now I am going to take the ML test.  My objective of this post was to get some insight on the ML test so I have an idea of what to prepare for.  Prior to taking the UBS test I did the same and got some helpful tips.  So in conclusion all I really am looking for is to get some insight on what to expect this will help me improve my chances.
 
P.S.  I don't attempt to spend much time on grammar when I post on any forum or blog.  I try to focus on content.  Sorry my grammar was incorrect.
 
I accept your apology for your poor grammar.  Note that I did not say "that you must have failed one test to take the other".  I did say that it was likely.  Be sure to read a little more carefully when taking the tests.

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billybob13 wrote:
Akkula,
Thank you for the info on the ML test.  It sounds like there is not much I can really prepare for since it is a personality test rather than a math or logic test.  Is this correct?
 
You can't really prepare for the kind of test I took.  Some companies have additional math/grammar tests that they may give if you don't have a degree or something.  I just know that ML didn't give one of these to me but they may have a different policy for other people.  If I had to prepare for a math type test and I didn't feel comfortable, I would probably review things like fractions/percents/multiplication/decmials.  I have never seen a professional math exam go much beyond these topics.  They aren't going to test on calculus, geometry, or algebra.

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Akkula,
 
When did you take the ML tests?

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Akkula wrote:billybob13 wrote:
  They aren't going to test on calculus, geometry, or algebra.
 
They aren't going to test you on algebra????  Algebra is basic math used in EVERYDAY calculations!!!

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