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Apr 2, 2009 10:28 pm

I've been EDJ training program for a little while and I'm considering a switch to a different environment. Few reasons...

1. running low on savings - I'm really getting close to depleting my savings at this point in time. The minimal paycheck that I'm getting from Jones isn't covering the expenses and I'm starting off every month with less than money that I had the month prior to.   2. Working out of home/by yourself - it's been about 4 months into the training program, and with each day, I'm finding it harder to find the motivation to step out of my house and do the necessary work. And just to think that I have to work out of my home for another year or so before getting an office space makes me cringe. Even after getting the office space, I really can't imagine myself working by myself in a small office for the rest of my life. I need some more socialization around me.   3. Owning a business- even though at first it sounded great to be your own boss and be on my way to own my small business. I've learned in the past 4 months that owning a business is not my cup of tea. At EDJ, you pretty much pay for everything and you get involved in the process of it too. I really really do not want to have anything to do with backend stuff of owning a business. I'd much rather go work for someone else and get a paycheck, have a boss then to take care of all the paperwork necessary.   Here are 3 reasons why I'm thinking about dropping the ball and pouring out the kool-aid. But then again, I also see so much potential in the company.   Any suggestions?   Also if I leave the company, do I get to keep my license?
Apr 2, 2009 10:32 pm

This is going to be a fun thread. 

Apr 2, 2009 10:54 pm

Screw off, milk em for every penny you can in salary and find a new job. When you interview tell them going door to door makes you feel like a peddler. Tell them that you are much better suited for a job in the adult toy industry than financial products.

Apr 2, 2009 11:00 pm

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Apr 2, 2009 11:01 pm

your license is good for 2 years after you leave

Apr 3, 2009 12:56 am

If you are out of money already or nearing it run for the hills immediately. I stayed for 2 1/2 years and ran through 100k in savings while drinking the kool aid and I am still bitter about it. Run Forest Run.

Apr 3, 2009 1:10 am

I’m with Ron on this one.  Get out quickly.  If you don’t want to be a business owner, get out.  There’s no shame in quitting.  There’s plenty of easier ways to make a living.

Apr 3, 2009 1:13 am

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Apr 3, 2009 1:40 am

You are obviously talking your way out of the job.  It's never gonna work.  Good to cut your losses now and get out.  But seriously, with the salary, potential bonuses and commissions, you are already running out of money?  You definitely weren't cut out for this biz, Jones or anywhere else.

I wouldn't worry about your licenses.  If you can't handle it at Jones, where else could you handle it?  A bank maybe?

Apr 3, 2009 1:43 am

Wind, here we go with another post about you.  You’re the best.  You are able to make it without any savings.    Of course, in order to try to make yourself look good, you conveniently leave out the fact that your wife is bringing home a steady paycheck.  

Apr 3, 2009 2:24 am

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Apr 3, 2009 2:33 am

Yeah, I went through 100k, wife doesn’t work and my average check at Jones was about 2k.

Apr 3, 2009 2:41 am

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Apr 3, 2009 2:45 am

Yeah, monster pay cut and about 6 months prior to leaving Jones wife stopped working because we had our first child. I had the savings and figured I would pull down at worst 4k a month based on the “chart” Jones shows you as you are interviewing.

Apr 3, 2009 2:48 am

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Apr 3, 2009 3:10 am

I went through 100k - a little more.   Of course, I got married during that time period, etc.

  Don't want to be a biz owner, you can work for me?  Although I don't need your 7.
Apr 3, 2009 4:48 am

Honestly, some of you guys might be right in saying that I might not be cut out for this biz, but that hasn’t been tested true yet, so I’ll reserve my self-diagnosis for later time.

  But what has been tested is my desire to become a business owner and frankly, it's not something that I'm looking forward to. I like having a box I can go to every morning and have co-workers to talk to. I also like the challenge of trying to climb up the corporate ladder, rather than just aiming for bigger paycheck.   I honestly am at the cross-road. I've put a lot of work into the job and the job itself is not very demanding. Door-knocking and getting number come pretty easy for me and lately, I'm good for 25 numbers, yes numbers, a day whenever I'm out in the field. But the thought of working out of my home for another year and working by myself in an office for the rest of my life is very discouraging.
Apr 3, 2009 9:27 am

Norcalstoppy,  what you need to understand is that the true title of your job is “business owner”.  That is precisely what you don’t want.  We’re not saying that you can’t do this.  We’re saying that you shouldn’t do it because it’s not what you want.   

Apr 3, 2009 9:37 am
wind3574:

Shut the f*** up…I was asking a question about the 100k…I told myself the same thing in the beginning “I have no money, How am I gonna do this”…but I did…Am I suppsed to relate the situation to Peewee herman?..Get back to your cage…good little stalker …

  Why do you continue to be so defensive?   If you want to ask the question about the 100K, just ask it.  His 100K has as much to do with Peewee Herman's situation as your sitution.   At least if you are going to bring up your situation be honest about it.   The problem is that your situation changes based upon whatever will make you look the best.  You are looking for any situation to say, "Look at me.  I'm doing so great."   On this thread, you are saying that your wife makes just enough money to cover daycare.  On another thread, you said that daycare was a necessity.  In which thread are you lying? 
Apr 3, 2009 1:20 pm

[quote=norcalstoppy]Honestly, some of you guys might be right in saying that I might not be cut out for this biz, but that hasn’t been tested true yet, so I’ll reserve my self-diagnosis for later time.

  But what has been tested is my desire to become a business owner and frankly, it's not something that I'm looking forward to. I like having a box I can go to every morning and have co-workers to talk to. I also like the challenge of trying to climb up the corporate ladder, rather than just aiming for bigger paycheck.   I honestly am at the cross-road. I've put a lot of work into the job and the job itself is not very demanding. Door-knocking and getting number come pretty easy for me and lately, I'm good for 25 numbers, yes numbers, a day whenever I'm out in the field. But the thought of working out of my home for another year and working by myself in an office for the rest of my life is very discouraging. [/quote]   Sounds cheesy, but do what's right for you. You will get (as you have) different advice from people on this thread. Just understand that the things you feel are normal. They told me in the beginning that it would suck, but I thought I would be different. Nope, still sucked/sucks. Sometimes, it really really sucks. I had an annuity deal blow up in my face a couple months ago, and it was half of my paycheck that I had already basically accounted for in paying my bills. We have a guy that is one of the biggest FA's in the firm in our region, and he tells stories about borrowing money from friends and family. The same guy lives makes more money in a year than a lot of people make their whole life.   That may or may not happen for you, but the bottom line is you are not special in that point. It is going to suck, and really suck for you. Heck, it will probably get worse for you than it is right now. But there are few other careers with a bigger upside.   As Jerry Maguire put it, working here is a "pride swallowing siege".