Series 66 TC - HUH?

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Just bought the Series 66 test bank for Training Consultants today, since everyone on this website is raving about it. Was using Kaplan 66, was scoring mid 60's on full 100 question tests. Scored a 88 on the Series 7 using Kaplan. First test I take on the TC i get a 85%. WHAT?How is there such a disparity in the level of difficulty between the two services? I am having my doubts now. Anyways, my test is in two weeks and the test bank will be for sale if I do indeed pass using this.... PM me if you want it!

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Geezeeee, here we go again.  Training Consultants is easier becuase they don't get into too much detail like Kaplan and STC which in essence is why people fail the Series 66.  they focus on things that they don't need to.  Trust me, TC seems easier but its just more focused on what you need to know, not the bull shit the other ones throw in there.  If you're getting an 85 on the TC practice tests you'll pass- guarantee.  I used Kaplan as additional to my Training Consultants becuase I bought it before getting on this website and seeing the Training Consultants rave as well.  I'd say randomly do a few Kaplan quizes just to keep the variety but there are identical questions from the TC material- not Kaplan.  When is your test?

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(Sorry- missed the part where you said your test is in 2 weeks).  Well, I used the tests for Training Consultants, but I also think the online lectures I got from them were really awesome.  She broke down EVERYTHING in the online lectures and that really helped me get a grasp on the material.  But, the tests are really good to do because they have identical questions.  Training consultants is definitely best with the online lectures + tests (because at the end of each online lecture there are practice tests and they change the practice tests at the end of those section each time so you can't memorize them if you go back and redo them).  I think you'll be fine, especially since you started with the more difficult material (that is exactly what I did). 

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Nobody ever talks about Fire Solutions. For the 7 I don't think there's any better training I scored an 85% on the 7 with minimal effort. I also used FS for the 66. I didn't like the instructor as much as for the 7 nor the material. My wife was in the hospital the night before the exam. I got 2-3 hours of sleep and took the exam and got an 83%. So FS WORKS!

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Good to know!  No one ever talks about Fire Solutions which is why no one buys it, then to talk about it! hahaha.  I heard from a couple people on this board that FS was good for the series 7, but you are right, no one really said anything about using it for the 66.  I used STC for the 7 and was satisifed since I passed the first time, but I knew for the 66 after talking to co workers that I HAD to get something different.   So maybe FS and TC are the way to goooo! 

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I have the TC material. Online Lectures plus 125 page print study guide. The lectures are very time consuming, so I think I will just read the material. Then do the practice exams. Hopefully I pass, test middle April.

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Yeah, which ever way you learn best.  I didn't read the material because I am a hands on type person, I enjoyed hearing someone talk  about it.  She would give examples about things within the lecutres.  I just wanted the lectures on the more in depth things that take a little longer to get a grasp on.  Mostly the first few lectures.  If I can recall correctly!  Good luck- you are getting a nice head start if its mid april.  I only used TC the last 2 weeks before mine and got an 88

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Yea. Hopefully I can knock out the book quick and start on the tests. Not sure how many times I can access the test questions though. I wish they were like STCs where I can answer the question and get immediate feedback. Hope to pass this test 1st shot.

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Nah- it'll be okay.  You can access the test questions as many times as you want.  Its not quite as user friendly as STC I guess in terms of getting an answer right away, but its not necessarily a bad thing.  And the tests will change each time you take them, so its a little more difficult to memorize like STC, however since there are identical questions, memorizing isn't such a bad thing ha.  I would also utilize the test questions at the end of the lectures- they have exams at the end of each section (5 questions that are easy)- then usually 20-30.  These change each time too so you can really get a grasp on the different areas.  It seems like you bought the online thing since you have the online lectures.  Its good- don't worry! :-) 

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I am not really sure why anyone thinks Fire Solution is good for anything.  Its unorganized, off topic and rife with gramatical errors.  Some of its answers are provable incorrect as well.  Why anyone would bank their job on such a haphazard product is beyond me.  

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Also, getting an 85% is the highest score I have ever heard from someone that used Fire.

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I did 95 on fire highly recommend

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I also purchased the TC question bank last week. I started with the STC material..book and exams. Getting 95% on all exams. I saw a few posts about TC and i think it is worth the $100. What i notice is TC is covering the same information with an extra element of detail that is not in the STC exams, but is in the study book. I went through the TC study exam content once and the final exams once. My scores were between 85 - 100. I have my exam in a few weeks....what is the best course of action from here using TC...keep doing finals and study exams ?Hearing the pass rate for the 66 is not so good..!I have my 7,24 and 63Thanks for the help with TC..

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^^  Yes, just keep familiar with the information until the tests by taking practice exams, maybe reading over things you aren't sure you completely get. I really don't think there is much more you can do given your scores on the exams.  You should move your test closer because I think you're wasting time waiting 2 weeks with scores like those.  I haven't heard anyone taking STC and getting 95% on the Series 66 stuff unless this was the 3rd time around and you just memorized the questions/answers. 

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I wish i could move it up...cant do it...have to work. With your experience with TC finals exams and study exams, is it a good indication on how you will do on the actual exam ?I guess i just have to try to keep things fresh in my mind for another two weeks...not fun at all..!I see that you passed with TC....nice !I hear that alot of people fail with STC....so that is why i bought the TC question bank...it helps.. Thanks for the help...let you know how i did and what i saw on the exam..

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Yes.  I started with STC, and made it like 15 pages before I started looking for other material because I wasn't feeling comfortable the way they were explaining things.  AND I knew a TON of people at my firm failed with it.  Why would I study from something where half the people fail, then read stuff on blogs about how great Training Consultants is?  Seems ignorant, and I wasn't going to be that girl!  I also used Kaplan for about 1 week because a co-worker said it was pretty good (she said it wasn't great by any means, but better than STC). So I studied with that for about a week then I found this website and saw people raving about TC (and yes... I am the most "recent" raver about Training Consultants but that is only because I actually passed 88% and I want to help people!  TC all the way!!  So, I spent about 3 weeks stricktly on TC and I am sure that all the material I retained was TC.  Kaplan was okay- but after taking the exams, I know that TC is VERY close to the format of the real thing and there were identical questions from TC and the real deal.   TC also had online lectures I really liked because I am more of a hands on person and I enjoyed hearing the instructor explain things additional to the reading material.  I am sure you'll be fine with just the tests though because you have background from studying with STC, etc.  As long as you have some background on the material, just using the TC tests should suffice (I don't think you need much background before you start taking the TC tests, just a general idea of the difference between state/fed, etc). 

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Thanks...88%...very good..You were very helpful.We will see how i do..I will let you know.

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good luck- you'll do fine. I was also done in 45 minutes, so it wasn't scary at all- I thought I was going to get in the 90s.  I only got a 77 on the series 7, so its not like Iam just some hot shot... it was the TC material that helped me.

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wow 45 minutes...I guess TC really helped...great..i feel better now !

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registerme wrote:^^  Yes, just keep familiar with the information until the tests by taking practice exams, maybe reading over things you aren't sure you completely get. I really don't think there is much more you can do given your scores on the exams.  You should move your test closer because I think you're wasting time waiting 2 weeks with scores like those.  I haven't heard anyone taking STC and getting 95% on the Series 66 stuff unless this was the 3rd time around and you just memorized the questions/answers.  @Registerme, Thanks for all of your information on this exam - it has been really helpful. I have one question for you. I originally started studying in January with Pass Perfect. After looking at some of these threads in early February, I purchased the TC materials; lectures, book and exams. One thing that I noticed a few times, was that the actual content, some of the answers to questions were completely different to what I had studied previously. I went back to both PP and TC with the same question, and both firms of course stand by their original response. It would be just my luck to have everything come down to one question to push me off the fence or finally bring this journey to an end. My exam is scheduled for 3/30 and I take my first final tonight. We shall see...just curious on your thoughts, I know you had used more than one source in addition to TC. Thanks again

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Wow that is interesting. I would honestly trust Training Consultants.  I am only saying that because I had so much success with it- but I definitely found some of the STC and Kaplan material to be confusing, as they weren't consistent when they were explaining things.  TC just is more simple in my opinion and doesn't try to be fancy.  The 66 isn't fancy, but the other study programs make it that way.  I would honestly trust the answer for TC, but I guarantee if you are studying with TC this time around you won't be within a point of passing, you'll pass by at least 5.  The online lectures are SO helpful to break everything down if you're having trouble- they helped me a LOT- and the identical questions on TC are nice.  Someone at my office took the 66 yesterday and she swears she had 40 exact questions from TC to the actual thing.  I had a lot too, maybe 30-40.  So, don't worry- you'll be okay. Trust the TC material.

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Thanks, I appreciate the words of encouragement - I'm continuing on with TC - took my first final and got  a 75 - I'll see how the next 4 fare as well as the random finals.  I love the fact that TC is a quarter of the information Pass Perfect had. This is a great forum to throw questions out - I guess we are all in the same boat at one point or another! Thanks again and I'll let you know how I do on the 30th!

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I used Pass Perfect for my first resource when I took the 7. For anyone that has diffculty focusing while reading, Pass Perfect has got to be the equivalent of Hell.

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Pass perfect was awful Joe - I got through half the book and knew I couldn't go much further. The service they provide is not stellar either. At least TC responds to emails same day, and are more than willing to talk to you if you call their 800 number. I can't say enough good things about them.

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".........For anyone that has diffculty focusing while reading, Pass Perfect has got to be the equivalent of Hell." LOL!!!!!  Glad this wasn't one of the three I tried.  I have a hard time reading because it makes me tired- and studying the 66 material would even make a non sleepy reader tired!  STC was pretty bad too though.  I literally read 15 pages then gave up. 

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Fire Solutions is terrible!!!! After seeing the TC book i realized how disorganized fire book was. there are errors constantly in the text and exams. i emailed people at fire pointing out several errors and they admitted to almost all of them that they needed to change/rewrite it. this is unacceptable when it comes to a test like this where every word matters. I failed using fire and i knew that book cover to cover, and got really good scores on the practice tests. i know a lot of it has to do with what test you get, but mine was different. after reading the TC book i am seeing much more similarities and hopefully will know what im dealing with this time around.  

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@Registerme, Thanks for all of your information on this exam - it has been really helpful. I have one question for you. I originally started studying in January with Pass Perfect. After looking at some of these threads in early February, I purchased the TC materials; lectures, book and exams. One thing that I noticed a few times, was that the actual content, some of the answers to questions were completely different to what I had studied previously. I went back to both PP and TC with the same question, and both firms of course stand by their original response. It would be just my luck to have everything come down to one question to push me off the fence or finally bring this journey to an end. My exam is scheduled for 3/30 and I take my first final tonight. We shall see...just curious on your thoughts, I know you had used more than one source in addition to TC. Thanks again sjwhit,I was considering doing a bunch of pass perfect exams too just for some variety bc i know people who used it and liked it. if i am already deep into the TC material and have done those exams should i not? would i just confuse myself?

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Hambone, I responded to your email...Keep me posted!

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Wow hambone, I am taking it on the 30th too!! Good luck to you, I've been getting 80+ on the practice tests for TC... so Im starting to do problems on the HUGE database in Kaplan now.

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How do you like the Kaplan database? I have been very reluctant to try another source just because of the discrepancies between all of them. Is Kaplan similar enough to TC to use? How did you get it?

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Kaplan compared to TC is literally twice as hard. I took the Kaplan Final Test and scored a 64%. I am geting 88+ on TC. 

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Yeah i am now getting scores consistently in the 90's and def have the worries that maybe the exams are too easy. but then again maybe its exactly what you need to know. i have been at it for quite some time bc i have already taken the exam. just not sure if i want to start looking at other material at this point in the game. i can attest that a lot of the TC material is on the test because i remember seeing some of the questions word for word in the material. please let me know how your test goes on the 30th. i don't take it until april 2. i am very anxious to see how the TC material sizes up in your opinion. i guess i can do some last minute kaplan tests if needed. Good Luck, please keep us informed

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I'm experiencing the same thing. Just putting my trust in the material and crossing my fingers. I have noticed that the questions tend to be more in depth than some of the reading. Hoping that helps when it comes to the exam, I have a feeling with this system the tests are more valuable than the study material.

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JoeBull when are you taking it?

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My original plan was the 2nd but I don;t think I'm going to have everything I need lined up before then (I have a special accommadation I receive. And it takes a while to go through even though FINRA has it on file.)So as close to the 2nd as possible.

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WOOT! Just passed the exam with a 84%. I was scoring 90+ on the practice finals prior to taking it this morning.Training Consultants DEFINATELY helped!! However, the real test was indeed slightly harder. There were multiple questions on the test that corresponded to the TC material.The test had more in depth questions regarding the performance calculations and annuity/life insurance...This was my break down: Economic Factors and Business Info: 80% 4, of 5Investment Vehicle Characteristics, 86% 13 of 15  Client Investment Recommendations: 60% 18 of 30Laws Regulations: 94%, 47 of 50. Good luck to all! (I still ahve the TC Question Bank valid for another 100 days.. if anyone needs ill send password for cheap) 

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Congratulations eez…So TC really helped…great. Can you give us an example of the in depth performance calculations you saw ?Did you see anything that you did not come across on the TC TEST banks ?Also..how long did it take you to complete the examThat is great…you did great on the laws and regs…Have mine on the 9th

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Sure. There were some calcualtions regarding ALPHA... to be honest I don't remember what is asked cus I had no idea how to do it.There was also a few questions on how the participation rate of index linked annuities work... so read more into that. There were many things that did not come across on the TC test banks, but you just had to figure it out yourself basically. There were some TRICKY questions such as.. A european option is a deritive because.. and it gives you two correct answers, one that is can only be exercised at expiry, or that its price is based on another security. YOu have to read closely to realize that the question is asking for what a deritive means, not what a european style option meant. Just read carefully and you will do fine. TC definately helped, if I only used Kaplan I would have scored lower for sure.

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guys just passed with a 90. TC was spot on for almost the entire test. read the book and keep re-reading it until u know it well and take every exam twice. i was done in about an hour. if you know the material you cannot fail.

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Congrats Hambone! Although I didn't score near 90, I did pass with a 78 on Friday. I saw at least 25-30 questions that were identical to TC, some of the more detailed questions that I had never seen probably hurt my score a little - should have read the book in its entirety at least once. Hambone is right in that you should take every exam twice, those are the questions that you wiill see later on. Good luck everyone, TC is the only way to go

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Congratulations Hambone and sjwhit09. That is great! I have my exam on the 9th.So you are saying that the final exams 1-5 are a good indication of what is on the exam, including 20 to 30 actual questions.Should I just keep going over the finals 1-5 until my exam on Monday ?I used stc for the reading and the 1000 question practice exams and I know very well.I have been using the TC test bank for the past month…did 2 sets of the study questions and went over the finals twice getting 89 to 98 on the finals..Wow to finish in an hour is amazing…

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I am so glad I am not the only person saying this stuff.  Maybe people really believe I was just trying to help all along and don't just work for TC.  (I do NOT work for TC).  hahaha.  Awesome job guys.  I just convinced my co-worker to get TC instead of STC.  I also told the sales manager and the people who order the material. I feel like I should get compensated for letting them know that TC is a great resource.  The fail rate here was probably 50/50 for the 66 with using STC material, I guarantee that it'll be morel ike 90/10 if they bought TC- thus they would save a LOT of money from all the retakes, and their employees would be more valuable quicker- if only people would listen!!!

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Take every exam twice and a few randoms. You will see tons of repeats. Not only does it make the test much easier but it's a huge confidence builder throughout the exam. I was kind of worried bc I went through it so quick but I knew the practice exams and the book so well it was so easy. If you have the book def pay attention to what they tell you to. If you only have the tests then I am confident that if you have them down you could pass just by memorizing them, that's how many I saw. Good luck to you all

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Well I'm next up. Should be taking it next week. I'll let you all know.

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I completely agree with Hambone, that is EXACTLY how I felt throughout the course of the exam!  Joebull, you'll do fine!  you've done your research on how to pass the thing, you'll pass it!

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Stamct and Joebull,  My first attempts on the TC finals were 75, 84, 86, 80 and 80. My first random I got a 93. After my first attempts, I started getting high 80s and low 90s on the exams. Despite the multiple questions that I saw repeated on the Random as I did on the Standard finals, I assumed it was because TC really wanted us to understand those questions. They really did appear on the actual exam. I don't think it would hurt to use the other course you were taking to supplement what you're seeing on TC - a few questions on the actual I had to give credit to Pass Perfect, but all in all, the 125 pages that TC created, plus the lectures and databank of tests, you really should be ok with just TC. As Hambone said,  it's a HUGE confidence builder going into the exam - the format is the same and really zero in on what Tina says to checkmark, highlight etc...she is spot on! Good luck you guys, you'll do fine. Keep us posted!

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ok will let you know...Thanks for the help

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Failed the 66 today with a 73%...used only STC material and studied my behind off!!  Yes, too many things to focus on in the STC material and I wasnt able to drill down on anything.  I tried EXTREMELY hard to get that 73%.  Now that I know something like TC exists....is anyone selling their TC online material?  If so, PM me.  Thank you....

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NY1982 sorry to hear that..I also used stc and I purchased the TC test bank. I have my exam on Monday. I agree with you, STC is loaded with information…TOO MUCH…How were you doing on your STC finals ? and how many times did you read the book  and do the exams?  I was pissed when STC told me to keep reading the book over and over..that is NOT A SYSTEM…  

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stamct -- I read the book twice and went through it very slowly the second time...it took me forever to get the info down and still I dont have it down 100%.  I also did the tests too in which some were repeated and the explanations were not all that great....I was doing ok on the tests, maybe 70s but I dont base it on that anymore.  I took the 7 and passed it with an 80 and was getting 50s-60s in the practice tests.  I just made sure I understood concepts for that one.Did you get the online access with lectures and book.... or do you just have the TC test bank?Good luck on Monday !! Let us know how it goes!

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