I’d believe it.  You’ve got the big producers at Jones like rankstocks and wind3547 making $18k+ per month and then you’ve got the guys just starting like still@jones and voltmoie making $4k per month.  $65k is probably a good average.  

I wouldn’t buy that … not for a second. Consider that even according to the article 23% of the staff washes out in four months. So 1 in 4 recruits make … $10K? Maybe??



If that’s true, the other 75% would have to make an average of nearly $70k. Yeah … I’m guessing the average is much closer to $50K.

So how difficult is it to make more than $100k? How many years does it take? I came from a job (laid off and those who weren’t were eating pay cuts) where I was making $55k. My goal is to do way better than that. I want to make more than $100k within the next three years. Is this reasonable as an FA in a decent-sized city (more than 300,000 people)?  Thanks for your thoughts.

First year is in the mid $50s, then increase $20k every year after that - if you really are doing the work.   The WSJ article is full of incorrect quotes - as usual.

That number is bogus for several reasons. One its cited by a journalist, they suck period. Two, it’s brought down by new people like me. I bet that if you excluded FA’s under two years the average compensation would be closer to $90,000. Lastly why are you considering averages? This isn’t a career for average goals or ambitions. 

Who cares about the average and the negative outlook on these posts. Fact is, you come into Jones working hard and busting ass, then those numbers are very achievable.  In fact, you could blow those numbers away.

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I’d believe it.  You’ve got the big producers at Jones like rankstocks and wind3547 making $18k+ per month and then you’ve got the guys just starting like still@jones and voltmoie making $4k per month.  $65k is probably a good average.  
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$4k a month…I wish!!! If I was bringing in that much cake, they probably wouldn’t have fired me!!!

I think that $65k number came off of the “Best Places to Work” survey and it includes home office and does not include trainees.

As for barisax, the truth is once you’re in the program, you’ll know in the first 6 months if you are destined to be making $45k/yr or $145k/yr within the next three years.

[quote=BerkshireBull] I’d believe it.  You’ve got the big producers at Jones like rankstocks and wind3547 making $18k+ per month and then you’ve got the guys just starting like still@jones and voltmoie making $4k per month.  $65k is probably a good average.   [/quote]

$4k a month…I wish!!! If I was bringing in that much cake, they probably wouldn’t have fired me!!!

I think that $65k number came off of the “Best Places to Work” survey and it includes home office and does not include trainees.

As for barisax, the truth is once you’re in the program, you’ll know in the first 6 months if you are destined to be making $45k/yr or $145k/yr within the next three years.

[quote=franklin21] That number is bogus for several reasons. One its cited by a journalist, they suck period. Two, it’s brought down by new people like me. I bet that if you excluded FA’s under two years the average compensation would be closer to $90,000. Lastly why are you considering averages? This isn’t a career for average goals or ambitions.

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Most of the guys in my old region were Seg 3, grossing at most 180k. That’s approximately 70k. Then there are the guys on goals - there were plenty of them.



Remember that it is average, and you have to include the people under two years. But I know four guys that are making right at about $65k, and all four of them have been out at least eight years.



There are also the people that make $300k/yr. But they are fewer.

Thanks for the good info. Would you mind defining for a newbie what “on goal” is?

you’re not cutting the numbers.



So you’re given “goals” - easily substantiated hard numbers that are first simply contact points, which increase. Obviously, if you are asking for enough orders you’ll make the grade.

Again, appreciated. OK. I am going out again to do the survey thing. Yesterday, 2 hours -- 40 door knocks, 13 surveys completed. How am I doing?

Personally speaking, I’d never knock on a Sunday. But that’s just my belief in God speaking.



Good luck.

Thanks again all. My face-to-face interview is next week. I will let you know if I get a job offer (I'm sure you'll all be on the edges of your seat for that...)

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Thanks again all. My face-to-face interview is next week. I will let you know if I get a job offer (I’m sure you’ll all be on the edges of your seat for that…)

Who cares what the average pay is?  You want to make average pay go work behind a desk.  The better question is, how much can I make a year?

Seriously? I care about the average pay because I’m interested in data. Aren’t you?

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Thanks again all. My face-to-face interview is next week. I will let you know if I get a job offer (I’m sure you’ll all be on the edges of your seat for that…)

[quote=BariSax]Seriously? I care about the average pay because I’m interested in data. Aren’t you?