Holy Cow my former EDJ Regional Leader

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babbling looney's picture
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has quit and is now in seminary training to be a minister.    
 
See what too much koolaid can do.  Be careful Jones guys or you too might see the light.

doberman's picture
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Even Darth Vader eventually left the dark side!

Maxstud's picture
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probably  living off his LP and now he'll get eternal salvation, lucky fucker. 

noggin's picture
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Mine took his life. (No Joke)

captclose's picture
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noggin wrote:Mine took his life. (No Joke)Really?  For business or personal reasons?

Broker24's picture
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noggin wrote:Mine took his life. (No Joke)
 
Another guy that gives our industry a bad name.  It amazes me that those situations take so long to uncover.

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Babs - I tell my clients that I believe there are three things that they value most in this life.  In no specific order:  Their health - I wasn't called to be their doctor.  I get queasy at the thought of some of the things my sister does day in and day out (she's a family practice/OB doc).  Their family - I wasn't called to be your preacher or priest.  While I believe what I believe, I wasn't called by God to stand up on Sunday and tell you what you should believe.   Their money - this is my calling in life.  
 
I guess your former RL just decided to make one thing more important than the other.  Congrats to him.   

babbling looney's picture
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Unless he has had a personality transplant, I can't even imagine him in this role.  Like John Ghotti decided to become a monk or Brittany Spears a nun.  Too weird.

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Broker24 wrote:noggin wrote:Mine took his life. (No Joke)
 
Another guy that gives our industry a bad name.  It amazes me that those situations take so long to uncover.
Try 20 years.....

Broker24's picture
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No kidding. It's ridiculous. I just read how some FP in Tempe, AZ was stealing millions from his church and the parishoners for more than 10 years, both as a trusted fundraiser (collecting donations) and as a trusted advisor. How these things go on for so long without being uncovered is beyond me.

bspears's picture
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Probably by using a P/L like the one Jones uses...just  a thought off the top of my head.

Broker24's picture
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That doesn't answer the question.  The P&L has nothing to do with stealing from clients.

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If you put 100 people in a room--they might even be 100 pastors, FA's, law enforcement officers, or military officers and you could ask each one 25 questions and it was impossible to lie--you would probably never let your kids out alone or trust anyone again.  Human nature provides us will all kinds of people--but the vast (majority) number of them are good, honest, and hard working people who just trying to make it.
 
I have served in the military in battle conditions and gotten drunk with guys who you think would never consider going into ministry--but they did!  Not me--I'm the type of guy who keeps them in business even in my 50's.

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The real question is how much due diligence does Jones do on a prospective GP?

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I'm not sure I understand where you are going with that statement. 
There are three ways to become a GP at Jones.  First, you can get hired in as one.  They'll hire people as GPs in areas like IS or HR from time to time.  Second, you can work your butt off as a HQ employee and get your shot.  I know lots of people like that.  It's a lot of politics, but it works.  Third you can get there from the field either as an RL who becomes a GP or they can pull  you into HQ to run a department. 
 
The only scenario where you can be a GP and still have contact with client money is as an RL/GP.  And you know how much they try to scrutinize everything that happens in our offices.  But, even then there are going to be some people who do figure out a way to get around the systems.  It happens.  Not just at Jones. 

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Spaceman Spiff wrote:Babs - I tell my clients that I believe there are three things that they value most in this life.  In no specific order:  Their health - I wasn't called to be their doctor.  I get queasy at the thought of some of the things my sister does day in and day out (she's a family practice/OB doc).  Their family - I wasn't called to be your preacher or priest.  While I believe what I believe, I wasn't called by God to stand up on Sunday and tell you what you should believe.   Their money - this is my calling in life.  
 
I guess your former RL just decided to make one thing more important than the other.  Congrats to him.   
 
I had no idea spiff was one of them  Pentecostals.

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Baptist to be exact. 

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