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Sep 3, 2009 6:03 pm
Ron 14:

In the NFL everyone has a chance besides the Raiders and Lions !

  Speaking of the Raiders, Forbes just listed them as the NFL's least valuable franchise, running >$5mm operating loss annually. Sweet job, Al!
Sep 3, 2009 6:04 pm

Wow. That is unreal. Who was number one ? Dallas, NE, Wash ?

Sep 3, 2009 6:08 pm

Dallas, worth >$1.6 billion.

Oakland was valued at just under $800mm   Al Davis needs to get out of his own way.
Sep 21, 2009 1:03 pm

If you take a gander at the NFL Stats Leaderboard

Link provided

You’ll see Brett Favre firmly ensconced in 2nd place behind perennial MVP front-runner Drew Brees.

Those that said Favre didn’t have it anymore appear to have been POONED pretty badly on this one. …

Sep 21, 2009 2:27 pm

[quote=SometimesNowhere]Dallas, worth >$1.6 billion.

Oakland was valued at just under $800mm   Al Davis needs to get out of his own way.[/quote]   I think a lot of that has to do with stadium not so much product on the field(though it helps.. Dallas hasn't won a playoff game since '96) I think most of the value is based on revenue generated by stadiums...kind a crap poll if you ask me.
Sep 21, 2009 2:48 pm

[quote=Squash1][quote=SometimesNowhere]Dallas, worth >$1.6 billion.

Oakland was valued at just under $800mm   Al Davis needs to get out of his own way.[/quote]   I think a lot of that has to do with stadium not so much product on the field(though it helps.. Dallas hasn't won a playoff game since '96) I think most of the value is based on revenue generated by stadiums...kind a crap poll if you ask me.[/quote]   I half agree. Last year the Yankees were an overpaid, underproducing team putting a mediocre product on the field and still made decent change. If you run a franchise into the ground, however, you start losing money where it counts, merchandising, advertising revenue, etc. I don't really know much about the money of sports, but it seems to me that a ever dwindling percentage of revenue comes from the gate and $9 beers.   Love him or hate him, Jerry Jones is a smart guy because he creates reasons to watch the Cowboys and sell merchandise, both important revenue streams.
Sep 21, 2009 3:58 pm
BerkshireBull:

If you take a gander at the NFL Stats Leaderboard

Link provided

You’ll see Brett Favre firmly ensconced in 2nd place behind perennial MVP front-runner Drew Brees.

Those that said Favre didn’t have it anymore appear to have been POONED pretty badly on this one. …

  Here we go...   Favre is a solid 30th in the NFL in yards per attempt with 5.52 per throw, firmly ensconced between Brady Quinn and Matt Stafford in the rankings.  He's a solid 33rd in longest pass of the year, with 21 yards being his longest, firmly ensconced between Matt Moore and Seneca Wallace in the rankings.  His 3 td passes have totaled 10 yards.  Lets not quite annoint the guy Comeback Player of the Year yet. 
Sep 21, 2009 4:47 pm

Any starting college QB could have done what Favre has done to this point. Anyone who thinks Favre is a top 15 QB either hasnt watched a game or doesn’t know anything about football. Sure he is one of the greatest ever, but that doesn’t mean he is good now. And if you think the Packers and Jets aren’t better off WITHOUT him you are an idiot.

Sep 21, 2009 4:55 pm
Ron 14:

Any starting college QB could have done what Favre has done to this point. Anyone who thinks Favre is a top 15 QB either hasnt watched a game or doesn’t know anything about football. Sure he is one of the greatest ever, but that doesn’t mean he is good now. And if you think the Packers and Jets aren’t better off WITHOUT him you are an idiot.

  And they thought it was a good idea to pay a guy TWELVE MILLION DOLLARS to come out of retirement to throw 5 yard dink and dunk passes all day.  The team is 2-0 so you can't really say that its not working for them, but no one can possibly say that Tavaris Jackson couldn't throw for 125 yards a game for 1/12 the price.
Sep 21, 2009 5:03 pm
3rdyrp2:

[quote=Ron 14]Any starting college QB could have done what Favre has done to this point. Anyone who thinks Favre is a top 15 QB either hasnt watched a game or doesn’t know anything about football. Sure he is one of the greatest ever, but that doesn’t mean he is good now. And if you think the Packers and Jets aren’t better off WITHOUT him you are an idiot.

  And they thought it was a good idea to pay a guy TWELVE MILLION DOLLARS to come out of retirement to throw 5 yard dink and dunk passes all day.  The team is 2-0 so you can't really say that its not working for them, but no one can possibly say that Tavaris Jackson couldn't throw for 125 yards a game for 1/12 the price.[/quote]   Not to mention that the team is being carried by the absolute monster that is AP. If you watched a game you would see that that guy is ridiculous. I could play starting QB for the Vikings and be just as productive.
Sep 21, 2009 5:32 pm

No doubt. AP is a monster. I really hope he can stay healthy because he should destroy d***erson’s single season record. I still think they will need a playmaking QB in the playoffs, even if it is Jackson dropping back and then taking off.

Sep 21, 2009 5:53 pm
Ron 14:

No doubt. AP is a monster. I really hope he can stay healthy because he should destroy d***erson’s single season record. I still think they will need a playmaking QB in the playoffs, even if it is Jackson dropping back and then taking off.

 
Sep 21, 2009 6:02 pm
3rdyrp2:

[quote=BerkshireBull] If you take a gander at the NFL Stats LeaderboardLink providedYou’ll see Brett Favre firmly ensconced in 2nd place behind perennial MVP front-runner Drew Brees.Those that said Favre didn’t have it anymore appear to have been POONED pretty badly on this one. …



Here we go…



Favre is a solid 30th in the NFL in yards per attempt with 5.52 per throw, firmly ensconced between Brady Quinn and Matt Stafford in the rankings. He’s a solid 33rd in longest pass of the year, with 21 yards being his longest, firmly ensconced between Matt Moore and Seneca Wallace in the rankings. His 3 td passes have totaled 10 yards. Lets not quite annoint the guy Comeback Player of the Year yet. [/quote]



Yeah but in the NFL all that counts is the record…2-0 vs 0-2(brady quinn) vs 0-2(stafford) vs 1-1(Wallace, seahawks)… No not comeback player, but the guy this team needed.
Sep 21, 2009 6:04 pm
3rdyrp2:

[quote=Ron 14]Any starting college QB could have done what Favre has done to this point. Anyone who thinks Favre is a top 15 QB either hasnt watched a game or doesn’t know anything about football. Sure he is one of the greatest ever, but that doesn’t mean he is good now. And if you think the Packers and Jets aren’t better off WITHOUT him you are an idiot.



And they thought it was a good idea to pay a guy TWELVE MILLION DOLLARS to come out of retirement to throw 5 yard dink and dunk passes all day. The team is 2-0 so you can’t really say that its not working for them, but no one can possibly say that Tavaris Jackson couldn’t throw for 125 yards a game for 1/12 the price.[/quote]



He couldn’t, doesn’t command the respect Favre does in the passing game, there is no threat… That is why they did give the job to Jackson(they even brought in Rosenfelds, jackson was so bad)…
Sep 21, 2009 6:18 pm

[quote=Squash1] [quote=3rdyrp2] [quote=Ron 14]Any starting college QB could have done what Favre has done to this point. Anyone who thinks Favre is a top 15 QB either hasnt watched a game or doesn’t know anything about football. Sure he is one of the greatest ever, but that doesn’t mean he is good now. And if you think the Packers and Jets aren’t better off WITHOUT him you are an idiot. [/quote]

 
And they thought it was a good idea to pay a guy TWELVE MILLION DOLLARS to come out of retirement to throw 5 yard dink and dunk passes all day.  The team is 2-0 so you can't really say that its not working for them, but no one can possibly say that Tavaris Jackson couldn't throw for 125 yards a game for 1/12 the price.[/quote]

He couldn't, doesn't command the respect Favre does in the passing game, there is no threat.... That is why they did give the job to Jackson(they even brought in Rosenfelds, jackson was so bad)..[/quote]   He threw 9 TD's, 2 picks, averaged over 7 yards per pass and had a QB rating of 95.4 in limited action last year, which was only his 2nd full season in the league.  He had a bad playoff game, his 1st of his career, but has anyone seen Favres playoff stats this decade?
Sep 29, 2009 3:35 am

There is one game the Vikings lose if rosenfals or jackson are qb…

Sep 29, 2009 3:47 am

I am fairly certain Rosefels and Jackson can throw hail mary’s

Sep 29, 2009 3:54 am

I can too, but I guarantee you they wouldn’t get there. That was a great throw and catch

Sep 29, 2009 11:58 am

That was a great throw and catch.  I must give credit where credit is due.

Sep 29, 2009 4:12 pm

Not saying it wasn’t a great catch, but even he said he just threw it up there