Norton Security hates this site

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Recently while navigating, my browser has crashed. 3 times. I thought that was odd- anyway, now my Norton is telling me this site has links to trojan horses (under the profile name of jeffrey_heinel) and lots of "drive by download" stuff. My guess is the security for this forum's software hasn't been updated in a while. Who's the admin here?

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Get a Mac

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Moraen wrote:Get a MacThanks, but no thanks. I also won't become a Jehovah's Witness, or wear those neat Nikes like all the other cool kids at the Heaven's Gate ranch.

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Your loss. I run everything a PC can run, but my machine never crashes. It's not about aesthetics. And I don't have to use Norton "suck the life out of my machine" anti-virus.

Unless you use Linux, Macs are the way to go.

If I were using PC's, my business wouldn't run half as efficiently. I gave the new guys a choice. I'll buy them a Mac or PC. Those that have chosen the PC are constantly rebooting their machines.

Good luck.

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So because I mention trojans, you infer my machine crashes all the time? I bet when client's ask about life insurance, you accuse them of wanting to kill their spouse, too. I've never even rebooted this machine I'm on now. And I run Vista, which allegedly bites. Are Macs nice? Sure. Are they worth all the extra coin you pay in premium over a similarly equipped PC? Not to me. Also, FYI? You're not immune. Just safer. http://laptopcom.blogspot.com/2009/01/new-trojan-horse-virus-detected-in.htmlAnd look! It's a TROJAN! Hmm. Someone should warn everyone...

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My browser never experiences any difficulties either.

And, that virus - only affects people who download pirated software. My opinion is, if you steal, you deserve to have your machine get infected.

Wasabi - I'm glad you are happy with Vista and your PC. But like I said, I can do everything a PC can, plus what Macs can do. I make very nice marketing materials using inexpensive software. Podcasts that help me reach out to my clients in other ways (yes I know you can do podcasts on PC's - it's just much simpler with GarageBand).

I'll just agree to disagree with you. Like I said - good luck

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I have both at home, so I will offer my $0.02...

I grew up on PC's. I know the keystrokes in all the software. I like my "right-click" options on PC's. Using Excel is easier in a PC (mostly because I know the keystrokes). Everything is more familiar in a PC (again, I grew up on these, and spent my first 20 career years on PC's). I too have the Norton suck-the-life-out-of-me Anti-Virus Software. And my PC does occassionally crash. However, if you do maintain your virus software and accept all the windows updates, etc., you don't have many issues.

MAC's are pretty resilient. Virtually never crashes. Sometimes locks up.   Has much better software for design, graphic, and photo/video applications. Sometimes it seems tougher to access certain "quick tools" (i.e. stuff you can get to with the "right click" on a PC).
Big drawback seems to be that a lot of websites just plain don't like MAC's (or more specifically, don't like the browser software like Safari). Some web-based applications simply don't work on my MAC.

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B24. I use Firefox, which works with most things. The problem is when people use IE for a lot of their web-based services (Fidelity is one - I had to download Wine and IE 6.0 - we're talking old school stuff for AdvisorChannel to work the best).

But that inconvenience is more than made up for with my other things.

I grew up on PC's too. But I will NEVER go back. Unless Apple just turns to crap (unlikely in my lifetime).

And I can "right click" to access a lot of things. I use quick keys too.

Not trying to look down on anybody or anything for not owning a Mac, I'm just saying you can get everything you need if you have a Mac. I believe a lot of the reluctance is fear. I get a lot of "I can't live without my Office" or "I know Windows".

Personally, I think Numbers is ages ahead of where Excel is. I designed my own analysis software using numbers. Very intuitive, and very easy. And I'm no genius.

And Pages and Keynote - phenomenal programs that all work together seamlessly. And I can get five licenses for $100 - whereas Office costs how much? I honestly don't remember, b/c I don't use it and my wife got it for free from school.

I realize I sound like a fanboy - and perhaps I am. But Macs have made my life infinitely easier.

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Quote:I realize I sound like a fanboy Stop right there- See comments above RE JW's, and other assorted cultists. But, and for the record? iPod, FTW.

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I notice you didn't address the fact that the only virus that can infect a Mac computer comes from pirated software.

What's wrong with the iPod? To be honest, I think the iPhone has a ton of problems. Or it might be AT&T.

Anyway, they can certainly do wrong (Macbook Air anyone - sucks).

But, some Mac people are cultists, some just derive enough benefit out of them to be advocates. Much like a client of yours telling other people how great you are.

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Ah, my apologies. You know you're getting old when...

Thanks ice.

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Actually, "For The Win" is the PC interpretation. But the intent is the same. I love the iPod. Sony walkman who!? Although the new Zune looks like iPod may finally have some REAL competition. Oh, and although no admin has shown up, now there are some SQL server issues.

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